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The "PLEASE Brian, sign a halfback" Thread

Alex28

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Agree...but then those two games we beat the Rabbits and get within 3 minutes of beating the Storm...is it justifiable to drop him based on those two games? Not so sure to be honest...
 

Jobdog

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Yep...just about got nothing now huh...can't defend Scotty, attacking Rogers doesn't cause a dent because - well...none of us really give a rats about him either...now it's lame pot shots at other posters...bravo.

Let's see if Scotty gets a run this week if Mullen isn't selected for Origin. I hope he actually does - we need the three of them playing to win week-in-week-out...
Pot shots at other posters? I'm pretty sure you said something about "Tim's dribble" for me to supposedly have a pot-shot at you. I'm sure Tim's more than capable of looking after himself, but it's a bit rich coming from you going on about people having shots at others ...

*Edit* And no, I'm not trying to get into a slanging match, just pointing it out ;-)
 
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Timmah

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:lol: You two (Alex and karma) are deadset so far off the mark. Karma I can ignore, it's obvious he has serious problems with the club and it's players... but Alex, if you honestly can defend Rogers in the face of Dureau, you're kidding yourself. Dureau has produced far more shining moments and quality games than Rogers. Rogers has done it at three clubs now, he'll cruel your sides chances tbh.
 

Alex28

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I'm not defending him at all! I'll bag Dureau all I want because...well...he's not very good...but Rogers - with all his faults - actually does show some benefits to the team in both attack and defence. I can see some benefit to the team with him being injected in to the game when the opposition's defence tires...but we can't rely on him for 80 minutes.

And to be honest...Tim's rant was dribble. On his basis you can credit all of Scotty's kicks on the wind and the compression levels of the ball.

And Timmah...being a Dog's supporter I don't much care what you think. He's our problem, not yours.
 

Joker's Wild

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And to be honest...Tim's rant was dribble. On his basis you can credit all of Scotty's kicks on the wind and the compression levels of the ball.

TBH Alex, I thought Big Tims last post was laced with a fair bit of sarcasm given the posts he was responding to. I think he was suggesting others on here were crediting the Broncos win to the weather and not the players abilities.

BTW I agree with your other points.
 

Karmawave

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Karma I can ignore, it's obvious he has serious problems with the club and it's players... but Alex, if you honestly can defend Rogers in the face of Dureau, you're kidding yourself. Dureau has produced far more shining moments and quality games than Rogers.



HAHA. What, in under 20's?

When it comes to knowing about rugby league Timmah, well let's just say you are good at putting up team lists on a forum.
 
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Big Tim

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TBH Alex, I thought Big Tims last post was laced with a fair bit of sarcasm given the posts he was responding to. I think he was suggesting others on here were crediting the Broncos win to the weather and not the players abilities.

BTW I agree with your other points.

A fair bit??? Come on, do we need to start the green writing for sarcasm again?

It was a sarcastic post at the fact that Alex put the win against the Bronco's down to "an off night" and "bad weather".

You are right though, that logic does say that Scott's kicking game, heck, even Dodge's comes down to wind and air compression.
 

Serc

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A fair bit??? Come on, do we need to start the green writing for sarcasm again?

roflmao, i had forgotten about the green text!!!

I admittedly have an odd sense of humour but that gave me my laugh of the day Tim, thanks :D
 

Alex28

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That's all very well to use green text and all that...but the basis of your post was still that we outplayed the Broncos and all credit should go to the players. The weather that night had to come in to it - the second half was probably one of the most boring 40 minutes I've seen this year. And the Broncos were pathetic - Lockyer was virtually out of the game and there was at least one injury in the Broncos backline (was it Hunt?).

If it was the other way around we'd be the first to point out the weather and injuries and blame that...true we could only play what was in front of us, but what was in front of us was pathetic.

But you know...if using green text makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.
 

BG

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Dureau has produced far more shining moments and quality games than Rogers.

We must have a different definition of "shining moments". Rogers is out of form and can certainly have a shocker on his day, but for impact plays his count would be so far ahead of Dureau's it's laughable.

I understand the argument people make that Dureau has by far and away the better kicking game, has a natural halfbacks game with organising abilities, and that it is more favourable for the team for him to fill those roles and allow Mullo to play 5/8th. I'm not entirely convinced but I appreciate that that's a valid point of view.

But for impact playmaking ability, I'm just staggered you would bother to make a comparison. Rogers can sure stuff up but he also has skills that are up there with the most talented players in the game. Throughout his checkered career he has demonstrated the ability to make regular line-breaks and line break assists out of nothing. And that's just not true about Dureau.
 

Big Tim

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The first 40 minutes against the Broncos were outstanding, especially the first 20, then when the heavens opened we played great wet weather footy.

Our first 40 against the Dragons was poor, our second was great, specifically the 15 minute period that we won the game in.

We havent had the perfect game yet, but I think our best performance across the park was against the Broncs.

No green text at all.
 

Alex28

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The Dragons game...it's easy to put that down to a poor first half and Wendell being injured in the second...but I'm fairly sure there was a screaming breeze against us in the first half and we did pretty well to hold them to the pretty small lead that they had. We murdered them in the second half when we finally had some advantage.

It was a good first half against the Broncos agreed, but they were pretty poor on the night...
 

K-Man

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We must have a different definition of "shining moments". Rogers is out of form and can certainly have a shocker on his day, but for impact plays his count would be so far ahead of Dureau's it's laughable.

I understand the argument people make that Dureau has by far and away the better kicking game, has a natural halfbacks game with organising abilities, and that it is more favourable for the team for him to fill those roles and allow Mullo to play 5/8th. I'm not entirely convinced but I appreciate that that's a valid point of view.

But for impact playmaking ability, I'm just staggered you would bother to make a comparison. Rogers can sure stuff up but he also has skills that are up there with the most talented players in the game. Throughout his checkered career he has demonstrated the ability to make regular line-breaks and line break assists out of nothing. And that's just not true about Dureau.

As far as I'm concerned this post succinctly sums ups the entire never-ending debate. The pros and cons of these two players are so varied that there really is no comparison in my opinion - it comes down to the 'type' of player you prefer to have in the side. But in terms of putting their games side by side, they are such different players with different skill sets that it seems rather pointless.

But oh how I wish Rogers could just put it all together on a regular basis - when he gets it right in those brief moments of brilliance he looks like Fittler... yes I'm serious
 

Timmah

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So you're all happy to ignore how the combination of Dureau and Mullen smashed us?

Fine by me, I think they're the best halves combo you've got.

And Karma, if your best insult is about team lists, you've got a lot of ground to make up.
 
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