The rebuilding phase

[King-Gutho94]

But, but our HOF has been to Harvard and NRL and has multiple degree qualifications, obviously smarter than those at other clubs to agree to all these options.

Did MON go to Harvard ???

Since when did they let dopes like that into there.

 

[hineyrulz]

But, but our HOF has been to Harvard and NRL and has multiple degree qualifications, obviously smarter than those at other clubs to agree to all these options.

But but but but it keeps his price down.

Anything over a pie and coke is massive overs these days.

 

[hineyrulz]

Did MON go to Harvard ???

Since when did they let dopes like that into there.

Harvard must run a school for trolley pushing???

 

[Gronk]

A MO means Dunster can take it up but at a reduced price, meaning he’d still be wasting a spot in the top 30

No, that's not what MOs mean in the purest of definitions. You can't take what happened to Josh Hodgson and apply it to every player with a MO out there.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Harvard must run a school for trolley pushing???

Actually Seibold went to Harvard as well didnt he the standards have clearly dropped there.

 

[Happy MEel]

So this is the current top 30 based on current positions and contracts for 2025 (18-30 are 1-13 in Cup)

1 Clint Gutherson
2 Zac Lomax
3 Will Penisi
4 Blaze Talagi
5 Maika Siva
6 Dylan Brown
7 Mitchel Moses
8 Junior Paulo
9 Brendan Hands
10 Regan Campbell Gillard
11 Shaun Lane
12 Bryce Cartwright
13 J'main Hopgood
14 Matthew Arthur
15 Charlie Guymer
16 Ryan Matterson
17 Sam Tuivaiti
18
19 Haze Dunster
20 Sean Russell
21 Toni Mataele (Second Rower here for Numbers)
22
23 Josh Lynn
24
25 Wiremu Greig
26 Joey Lussick
27 Joe Ofahengaue
28 Matt Doorey
29 Saxon Pryke
30 Luca Moretii

Development Players
Arthur Miller Stephens
Richard Penisini
Jock Brazel

By my counts we have a backup Fullback spot, a backup Winger Spot and a backup half spot up for grabs.

If we don't retain Blaze, then we open up a Winger / Centre spot.
If we could offload Lusick you would need 3/4 of a NSW CUP level / Backup spine.

I wouldn't be upset if we offered Bailey Simmonsen a deal in the bottom 13 (NSW Cup list)

I reckon Offa is in our top 17 everyday of the week.

 

[King-Gutho94]

it keeps his price down.

Thanks Pou

 

[Stagger eel]

I reckon Offa is in our top 17 everyday of the week.

even this early on on the piece he's pretty mich a short price favoutite for the KT Medal imo.

 

[Noise]

No, that's not what MOs mean in the purest of definitions. You can't take what happened to Josh Hodgson and apply it to every player with a MO out there.

In rugby league terms it is. Otherwise it’s just a regular negotiation when a player comes off contract, what’s the point of having a MO if the club could just cut you anyway? Player mangers arent stupid.

 

[hineyrulz]

Actually Seibold went to Harvard as well didnt he the standards have clearly dropped there.

Harvard must means mean spoons these days.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

oh god Zac and Haze have got to be off contract surely?

OFF CONTRACT 2024
Daejarn Asi, Jock Brazel, Zac Cini, Charlie Guymer, Morgan Harper, Makahesi Makatoa, Ofahiki Ogden, Bailey Simonsson

 

[Gronk]

In rugby league terms it is. Otherwise it’s just a regular negotiation when a player comes off contract, what’s the point of having a MO if the club could just cut you anyway? Player mangers arent stupid.

Sorry, you're making assumptions. An mutual option is what it is. It can be vanilla or be quite complex. Again, you can't assume that they are all the same.




In this Jack Bird option, both parties have to agree or it's off.

Cam Munster and Jack Bird's increased deals, Crichton on the outer

The Melbourne Storm and St George Illawarra Dragons have increased their offers to Cam Munster and Jack Bird respectively, but a Roosters star could be squeezed out

www.dailymail.co.uk

Dragons and Jack Bird come to mutual decision on future

He has a mutual option in his contract for next season.

www.zerotackle.com

In fact this article suggests the purpose of a MO is to just keep them off the market until later in the year. So instead of him being a free agent on Nov in his penultimate year, it is deferred until mid year in his final year.

League The NRL's top free agents

One club is already eyeing a $5m offer for our No.1. Who else is on the market? By Dan Walsh OCTOBER 31, 2023 November 1 surely the most-commonly cited date in the rugby league calendar is all but upon us again, with a few tweaks and twists to the best playing talent going up for...

twf.com.au

This one however Bulla has a contract value trigger to the MO.

Unwanted a month ago, Alex Twal signs new 3-year deal with Tigers

Just weeks after being told he was surplus to requirements, Alex Twal has signed a deal that will result in him staying at Wests Tigers until at least the end of 2027.

www.smh.com.au

This article explores Gagai's MO and says that Gagai is taking a risk, because his 1 years contract with a MO, puts him off contract after a year.

‘Won’t be missing the next one’: Chooks’ big warning to league after free agency snubs

‘Won’t be missing the next one’: Chooks’ big warning to league after free agency snubs

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[King-Gutho94]

OFF CONTRACT 2024
Daejarn Asi, Jock Brazel, Zac Cini, Charlie Guymer, Morgan Harper, Makahesi Makatoa, Ofahiki Ogden, Bailey Simonsson

Brazel & Guymer out of that lot to stay.

The rest can go

If Simmonsson accepts a 1 year deal i wouldn't be too fussed can be handy depth.

 

[JokerEel]

We need to get Lussick off the books for a next year as he will be holding up development of any other dummy half coming through - Smith.

 

[King-Gutho94]

We need to get Lussick off the books for a next year as he will be holding up development of any other dummy half coming through - Smith.

Michael Liechha said on instagram last night we are signing Bronson Garlick from the storm.

I would think if thats the case that Lussick will be probably be back on that plane to the UK quick smart.

 

[Gronk]

Michael Liechha said on instagram last night we are signing Bronson Garlick from the storm.

I would think if thats the case that Lussick will be probably be back on that plane to the UK quick smart.

Well we need a hooker. Good. Hands can go back to being a utility in Cup.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Well we need a hooker. Good. Hands can go back to being a utility in Cup.

Push Lynn to 7 BH to 5/8th

 

[Stagger eel]

28 Years old, 20 odd NRL games most off the bench...

I wouldn't call it the most inspiring signing ever.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

I reckon Offa is in our top 17 everyday of the week.

even this early on on the piece he's pretty mich a short price favoutite for the KT Medal imo.

Sure, but let’s say Joe and Sam T are interchangeable. Still doesn’t change the gaps in the list or the overall recruitment picture

 

[JokerEel]

28 Years old, 20 odd NRL games most off the bench...

I wouldn't call it the most inspiring signing ever.

I am going to have a guess and Say Garlick will be 14 at best..

Would not pin my hopes on him starting at hooker in 25