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blacksafake

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Carr has another year to run on his contract and the club should insist he honour it. He appears to have got real close to the players over the season so not sure he would want to go unless he sees an opportunity when Benjie totally stuffs the WT up.
I think this is more the point of a better chance of getting a head coaching job instead of with us knowing that Young is the next in line at us.
 

qld redvee

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Carr has another year to run on his contract and the club should insist he honour it. He appears to have got real close to the players over the season so not sure he would want to go unless he sees an opportunity when Benjie totally stuffs the WT up.
Possibly tigers have offered a 2 or 3 year deal to get him. As he has agreed to work with flanno we should extend him another 12 months
 
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GEE Pommy forward Luke Tompson will fit in well at the Dragons.
An absolute turnstile in Defence .
Makes you wonder when coaches go all out for a player due to what he offers in attack, yet they seem to forget that defense is just as important. As soon as I heard about Flanagan wanting Thompson I went to his defensive stats and cringed, ditto with another Pommie, Ryan Sutton.
 

Dragon David

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The problem is that what we see is completely different to what Flanagan sees for the short term and long term.

Losing Sullivan to the WT could in the next 10 months (say June 2024) prove that Flanagan's decision to let Sullivan go was the right thing to do and we will then think, on reflection to the present, that we were wrong with how we wanted Sullivan with us and Hunt let go. But, it could also backfire on Flanagan with Sullivan killing it under Benji and Benji's assistants and other Tigers players.

Both these players imo really have not set the world on fire at the moment - Hunt's possibly still has it at the back of his mind that he will want to go especially if we do not sign anyone of significance to help us win games (at the moment he is trying in a way but I'm sure he is really frustrated like us that we cannot win and it shouldn't only be on him to get those wins) , while Sullivan's in and out of playing due to injury set backs and demotion. People will say that Sullivan wasn't really given much opportunity to impress and people more or less only had his 2019 SG Ball premiership win and several KOE Cup games to get a gauge on his ability.

Flanagan must know in himself what he wants to achieve and until such time as to when Flanagan actually takes over and we see some astute signings, if any, it would be premature to comment one way or another as to what our future will be like with or without Sullivan and maybe Hunt.
 
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future will be like with or without Sullivan and maybe Hunt.
If Hunt goes then this club has stupidly let a good local junior leave the nest. If Hunt had been and still was worth the insane money we forked out for him, we'd all be wishing for his retention, sadly at the expense of Sully. But the opposite is the case as he has been a major disappointment and we have now given a rival club the benefit of skills Sully nurtured here.
 
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saintmar

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Yep my admiration for Flanagan dropped several notches when he did that, made me question whether his people skills and club loyalty were any better than Griffins.
He totally lost me and a stack of Saints fans I know.
Next it will be his son as the replacement and people talk about having to get rid of the culture of nepotism and jobs for the boys.
Flanno has made a big call and it will have to define his stint with us.
Obviously he sees more value in the ageing Hunt over youthful rising talent.
For me any good coach,confident in his own ability would want to work with the young talent coming thru and mold their careers to be successful for themselves and the club and ultimately be a reflection of their coaching ability.
IMO may be Flano is not up to that challenge and that is why your comment about his ability is on the mark.
 

SEAT 1A

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NRL 2023: Incoming Dragons coach Shane Flanagan reaches out to Roosters star Joseph Aukuso Sua’ali’i​

  • By PHIL ROTHFIELD

  • NEWS CORP AUSTRALIA SPORTS NEWSROOM
  • 6:00PM AUGUST 19, 2023
Incoming St George-Illawarra coach Shane Flanagan has expressed interest in signing boom Sydney Roosters’ teenager Joseph-Aukuso Sua’ali’i to join the Dragons next year.
Flanagan has heard the rumours that the Roosters are to consider releasing Suaalii at the end of the season — 12 months before he is due to join rugby union.
The 2016 Sharks premiership-winning coach recently spoke to his own agent Isaac Moses — who also manages Sua’ali’i.
Flanagan told Moses he would be interested in having Sua’ali’i at Saints if the Roosters wanted to offload him.
The Roosters next year have speedster Dom Young arriving from the Newcastle Knights and veteran Daniel Tupou to play on the left wing. Billy Smith and Joseph Manu will play in the centres in a star-studded backline.

This puts the Roosters in a position where they can save $700,000 in their salary cap by releasing Sua’ali’i early, although he is now playing much better than earlier in the season.
Plus Nick Politis’ initial anger and disappointment around his code switch on a $5 million contract has now subsided.
Six weeks ago Flanagan would have had a better chance of making this happen.
It’s interesting that the incoming coach is keen on signing the boom teenager knowing he is available for only 12 months, rather than look around for a long-term signing.
The problem is, there are few options for next year.
At least Suaalii could add something to a side desperately short on quality players before Flanagan chases a more permanent solution when more big names become available for 2025.
Flanagan’s only signing to date is South Sydney star Hame Sele.

The above from The Australian. Flanagan's thinking is "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again"

Sua’ali’i will always have his rugby union contract on his mind. Leave him in Easts cap.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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If that article by Rothfield has any truth to it and is the best Flanagan has to offer god f**king help you all.

Let's start our brand new pathways programme with a $700k 1 year appointment of a snotty nosed kid who has already betrayed 2 clubs and is yet to turn 20.

Simply outstanding logic and sends a real clear message to all our junior players.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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Haa they were Mr JetSki and Mr dinosaur recruits along with BH
Add in McCrone,Lafai,Mbye,Burgess,The Thug, etc etc even Benji was a waste of time…
Who was the big guy ex Easts and ESL who came to us barely played a game and then went back to ESL and ended up with that career ending horror injury?
 

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