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The switch hit

TheParraboy

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signifies years we made grand finals and there was positive experiences for the players. plus there were other positive life experiences for me personally in those years

lmfao :lol::lol:

You only made the g/f's cause you cheated you brainless cretin :D
 

Storm_Warning

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actually i posted on the topic of the swicth hit and you parra fans get your panties in a twist and take it off topic. well done though for trying to blame me though!
 

Twizzle

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I dont mind it, but they should introduce rules to keep it in check. For LBW the ball should be allowed to pitch anywhere, and there should be no "Leg Side wides", so you can bowl either side of the wicket within the lines without being called.

But other than that I think it should be allowed.

I cant see any umpires having the ability to administer such a rule

they are doing less now days as they rely on replays

in the last test we had an umpire who couldn't administer the no ball without going upstairs

we have had balls like the doozra outlawed and yet bowlers still took wickets with doozras because the umpires were not capable of distinguishing a doozra from an offie

so what do you think the chances for an umpire being able to administer that rule if it were changed ?
 

PARRA_FAN

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because its cheating and gives an unfair advantage. in league if someone threw the ball forward over the defensive line caught it themselves would you say he has enough skill to do it then sit back and enjoy it? you should go follow the baseball all star homw run derby and stop infecting the great game of cricket with your shit attitudes

And how is it cheating???

Show me the rule book?? :lol:

in league if someone threw the ball forward over the defensive line caught it themselves would you say he has enough skill to do it then sit back and enjoy it?

UMM, no cause he threw the ball forward. :sarcasm: Dont you know the rules in Victoria. Oh I forgot, you know a lot about cheating.
 

Storm_Warning

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gives the batsman an unfair advantage. i hate u useless 20/20 supporting pricks who would watch some stupid switch hitting shit than actual cricket. its fans like you that are on the verge of ruining a great game with over a hundred years of tradition.
 

Wooden Spoonar

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I have no problems with the switch hit in t20, we all know it's just sh!ts and giggles cricket and it's all about the entertainment I think.
 

IanG

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For those saying things about it being used in Test Matches. I've seen Kevin Pietersen try it in a test match. It didn't work. It just ballooned up and he was out caught by the wicket keeper. So if you try it and it doesn't come off you look like a complete goose
 

Hallatia

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finally
ICC ponders lbw change for switch hits
George Dobell
May 9, 2012

The ICC is to review the playing condition regarding lbw decisions in international cricket in response to the emergence of the switch hit.

ESPNcricinfo understands that the ICC cricket committee, a group that includes Ian Bishop, Kumar Sangakkara and Mark Taylor, is to consider amending the playing condition whereby a batsman attempting to play the shot cannot be given out lbw if the ball has pitched outside the leg stump. The news, first mentioned in passing in The Guardian, will mean that any right-handed batsman who switches his stance or grip to effectively play as a left-hander, will be able to be given out even if the ball had pitched outside the leg stump and vice-versa. Bowlers will also be allowed more leeway as regards leg side wides in limited-overs cricket. The cricket committee meets in Dubai later this month.

While any recommendations cannot come into force until they are ratified by the ICC board and the ICC's chief executives' committee, it is unlikely that the cricket committee's proposals would be ignored. The decision will not affect the laws of the game, which are governed by the MCC, leading to the possibility that playing conditions in first-class cricket around the world will differ from playing conditions in the international game. It is up to each national board to determine whether to adopt the ICC's playing conditions in their domestic cricket. While some boards - including those in Sri Lanka and South Africa - tend to default to the ICC stance, others - such as the ECB - are more independent minded. At present the major differences between ICC playing regulations and MCC laws concern the rules regarding the degree of flexion bowlers are allowed, the use of runners and decisions relating to the DRS.

The MCC is also considering the repercussions of the more regular use of the switch hit stroke. Two members of the MCC's laws subcommittee - Dave Richardson and John Stephenson - also sit on the ICC Cricket Committee.

The switch hit first came to prominence in 2008 when Kevin Pietersen played it in an ODI against New Zealand in Durham. The same batsman was involved when matters came to a head in a Test in Sri Lanka recently when Tillakaratne Dilshan pulled out of his delivery stride on several occasions as Pietersen shaped to play the shot and the stand-off threatened to reach stalemate. The umpires, Asad Rauf and Bruce Oxenford, warned Pietersen for time-wasting, but the ICC is now looking for a more permanent solution.

The ICC will be keen not to encourage negative bowling, however. The shot is sometimes played, even at Test level, to counter a leg stump line from right-hand bowlers coming round the wicket and many feel that the switch hit, a shot requiring high skill levels and remarkable reflexes, has been an entertaining addition to the game. It may also be that the ICC asks for some analysis as regards the risk-reward ratio of the shot and whether its usage really does disadvantage bowlers.

Any amendment to the playing conditions is likely to prove torturously difficult to phrase. For a start, it could prove tough to define exactly what constitutes a switch hit - whether it involves a change of stance, a change of grip and when they take place. It is worth noting that the ICC, reacting to David Warner's decision to remain in his normal left-handed stance but with a right-handed grip, issued a directive to umpires in February 2010 that stated such a tactic should be tolerated as long as it did not change once the bowler had begun their run up. As things stand the laws do not define what it means to bat left- or right-handed.

Fraser Stewart, MCC's Laws Manager, recently raised an interesting quandary. "What would happen," Stewart asked, "if a batsman stood chest on to the bowler? If may sound a ludicrous suggestion now, but we have a generation of young cricketers growing up playing the switch hit and prepared to experiment with their stance and their grip. It may well happen."
Sauce
 

Twizzle

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good move and exactly what my concern was when it first came into play.

Any amendment to the playing conditions is likely to prove torturously difficult to phrase.

bullshit, just allow the ball to pitch outside leg stump for a batsman's normal stance

not hard
 

aussies1st

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About time, wides should only be given if it passes the outer lines and the batsmen gives up his right to pitching in line.
 

Horrie Is God

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Call me an old fogey,but it should be barred from Test cricket..

I have no problem with it in the "Hit & Giggle" forms of the game though..
 

Hallatia

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you're fogey Horrie but I see where you're coming from, I don't like it in test cricket either
 

Twizzle

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neither do I but I can live with it with a rule change as its totally in favour of the batsman atm
 

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