What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

The T.V Rights Thread Part III

How much will the Total Broadcast Rights Deal be?


  • Total voters
    213
Status
Not open for further replies.

Chief_Chujo

First Grade
Messages
8,136
Aren't the FTA stations pretty keen on getting the monday night game?

We really need a Saturday game on FTA to compete with AwFuL. I'd say Fox will be keen to hold onto "super saturday" but they'll have to pony up this time if that's the case.
 

Brutus

Referee
Messages
26,355
Aren't the FTA stations pretty keen on getting the monday night game?

We really need a Saturday game on FTA to compete with AwFuL. I'd say Fox will be keen to hold onto "super saturday" but they'll have to pony up this time if that's the case.

Super Saturday has had it's time in it's current form. Two games at the same is silly.
 

whall15

Coach
Messages
15,871
Looking at the ratings for Ten on Saturday they would be stupid not to make a big push for Super Saturday.
 

carlosthedwarf

First Grade
Messages
8,189
Looking at the ratings for Ten on Saturday they would be stupid not to make a big push for Super Saturday.

Even one game would help them out. Can't imagine there are many happy faces at being beaten by SBS.

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/07/sbs-one-beats-tens-primary-channel.html

On Saturday night TEN?s primary channel hit rock bottom. It landed in fifth place behind SBS ONE.
It was also less than half ABC1.
Primary Channels:
Seven 22.4%
Nine 18.2%
ABC1 15.4%
SBS ONE 8.0%
TEN 7.2%
TEN was unable to lift beyond the 462,000 it pulled for its 5pm News.
By contrast, SBS was on the rise with Tour de France (330,000) which kept numbers higher until late in the evening, and RocKwiz on 232,000.


NRL on Saturday Night should be a guaranteed 500k minimum.
 

Quidgybo

Bench
Messages
3,054
Maybe one live on Fox and the other live on nine and then nine can still show the second game delayed. NSW would still get the Sydney game live on free to air and the QLD get the live game free to air.
I suspect the more likely course is that the Friday night double header remains with both matches simulcast on Fox and each FTA market taking only one of the two games. So Brisbane gets the Queensland game, Sydney gets the NSW game, and anyone who wants to watch the out of market game has the option to subscribe to Fox. Everyone gets their value. FTA gets to maximise their ratings in both Sydney and Brisbane by showing live games at 7.30pm that cater to each audience without having to blow a second game in a late evening slot to half the audience. And Fox becomes the exclusive outlet for those that want the choice of either or both matches.

And by not blowing a second FTA match late evening on Fridays, it allows the League to turn around and do the same thing on Saturday nights. Two games played simultaneously at 6.30pm, one catering to a Queensland audience, one to a NSW audience. Fox simulcasts both games (and perhaps has exclusive on a third game played at 8.30pm or 4.30pm) and each FTA market gets to show one of the two games live. Instead of two games on FTA every Friday night and nothing on FTA every Saturday, we get one game live each night that maximises FTA ratings while still maintaining value for pay TV.

Leigh.
 
Last edited:

Band On The Run

Juniors
Messages
441
How much control does News Ltd still have on the game?

Because it they don't have much it would be nice to see way more games on FTA.
 

Canucks

Juniors
Messages
168
A quick partially related complaint about Nine... Was hoping to plan a trip to Melbs for the sharks game in round 25... Of course I can't book because the schedule isn't released for a few weeks... I checked the draw and I want to make a prediction:

Friday game 1 - roosters v tigers (Nine will love this, even though both teams will be outside the 8)
Alternate game 1 - souths v eels (wooden spooners)
Friday game 2 - broncos v manly (of course)
Monday night - storm sharks (1v3)

Which will mean no footy weekend down south :(
 
Messages
14,139
I think you're probably right. There is no chance the Sharks game will be Friday night. Nein rarely show the Storm or the Sharks and certainly not when they are up against each other. Fox on the other hand would probably look at ladder and realise this is arguably the match of the round.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
Messages
70,778
A quick partially related complaint about Nine... Was hoping to plan a trip to Melbs for the sharks game in round 25... Of course I can't book because the schedule isn't released for a few weeks... I checked the draw and I want to make a prediction:

Friday game 1 - roosters v tigers (Nine will love this, even though both teams will be outside the 8)
Alternate game 1 - souths v eels (wooden spooners)
Friday game 2 - broncos v manly (of course)
Monday night - storm sharks (1v3)

Which will mean no footy weekend down south :(

yeh its a pain, I like to head East to catch games 4 or 5 times a year and try to fit in work trips around fixtures I want to see but impossible to do it at the moment. Fixed scheduling is another must for fans to be able to plan travel to follow their teams.
 

taipan

Referee
Messages
22,500
Bump bump
Afurther bit of good news that can only help the ARLC in Tv negotiations.Today's Australian

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/news


Crux of the story
Eye Corp sale to aid pitch for the NRL.

"" Ten network's interest in acquiring the NRL rights is set to receive a cash boost,as the company finalises the sale of its outdoor advertising business Eye Corp.
The sale would represent a timely boost for Ten as it goes into battle with incumbent FTA broadcaster Nine Network as well as Seven Network,to snare the lucrative rights which are set to fetch a record price."
 
Last edited:

El Diablo

Post Whore
Messages
94,107
full article from your link

Eye Corp sale to aid pitch for NRL

by: Darren Davidson
From: The Australian
July 12, 2012 12:00AM

TEN Network's interest in acquiring the NRL rights is set to receive a cash boost, as the company finalises the sale of its outdoor advertising business Eye Corp.

The network is on the brink of announcing a sale and purchase agreement with Champ Private Equity-owned oOh!media Group.

The sale would represent a timely boost for Ten as it goes into battle with incumbent free-to-air NRL broadcaster Nine Network, as well as Seven Network, to snare the lucrative rights, which are set to fetch a record price.

Ten and Champ entered into an exclusive agreement over the sale of the Eye asset in mid-May, and since then due diligence has centred on the sale price.

A figure between $125 million and $150m has been discussed, after Citigroup estimated a potential bid range of $129m-$165m in April, when there were plenty of interested bidders.

But since Citi's estimate, two potential bidders have dropped out: APN Outdoor, a joint venture between Quadrant Private Equity and APN News & Media; and French company JCDecaux.

Ten has previously said a sale of Eye Corp is not the only option, and it is prepared to cancel the process if the price is not right.

The Australian Competition & Consumer Commission has been monitoring the potential sale, after Ten announced a strategic review on March 19.

A spokesman said the ACCC would decide if a review and investigation was warranted once it had received full details from Ten.

Ten has also taken a step towards broadening its digital strategy,forming a joint venture with British-based Zeebox to launch a social TV app to rival Seven's Fango and Nine's Jump-in. The app will harness the power of the "second screen" effect, pooling live discussion and interaction on social networks around Ten's programming in one place.

Ten is also planning to synchronise its advertising offerings and earn revenue through a percentage of click-and-buy links that drive users to products advertised on successful TV programs such as MasterChef.

Network Ten chief operating officer Jon Marquard told The Australian the network was still in discussions about forming partnerships with other digital players.

Ten has been linked with Facebook, Google and Telstra's Sensis in its push to create a joint venture similar to Nine's ties with Microsoft and Seven's link with Yahoo.

"To not be properly engaged in digital is to have your head in the sand," Mr Marquard said. "We look at different strategies for different opportunities in digital. It's a horses-for-courses approach."
 

Smiley

Bench
Messages
3,026
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/expansion-plan-sweetener-in-tv-talks-20120712-21yy3.html

Expansion plan sweetener in TV talks

EXPANSION plans that include the possibility of the competition increasing by two teams, staggered over two years, have been flagged during negotiations with television networks on the new broadcast deal.

Industry insiders have told the Herald of a number of developments in negotiations involving the Nine, Fox, Seven and Ten networks with the ARLC's negotiating team, led by Graeme Samuel from the advisory firm Greenhill Caliburn. They include the commission's desire to have a fourth club game shown on free-to-air each week, on Saturday nights, and also to have all free-to-air games simulcast on Fox Sports, in a similar arrangement to the one Fox has with the AFL.

It is believed that, after each of the networks were given briefings by Samuel and his team on Tuesday, the negotiations will heat up before the end of the month. The new deal is likely to be finalised in September - right in the middle of the finals series.

''September could be even bigger for rugby league than everyone thinks,'' one insider said. ''The finals will be on - on and off the field.''

But while there have been suggestions the league's new deal could be worth up to $1.25 billion over five years - matching the AFL's television deal - insiders say $1 billion will more likely be the upper limit.

''The AFL has nine games a week to league's eight, plus there is 30 per cent more advertising time available in AFL games, so people are naive to think league can get as much as AFL,'' an insider said. ''If they can get more than $1 billion, they will have done a damn fine job.''

Speculation about expansion has been ongoing in recent years, and there is a growing list of groups that are prepared to financially back the introduction of new teams. Brisbane, Perth and Central Queensland are regarded as the front-running spots, ahead of Central Coast.

The ARLC, like the NRL before it, was not prepared to go ahead with expansion until the new TV deal was in place, and insiders say that, ideally, the commission would like to add one or two teams during the five-year life of the deal.

But introducing two new teams in one year is seen as a risk, because of the distinct possibility both could struggle in their early stages. That has created the possible scenario of one team being introduced in 2015, with a weekly bye that season, and another team the following year. Insiders
predict that whatever the successful networks end up having to pay for the new deal will be what it is worth, because the league's negotiating team is first-class.

''The networks have got a stiff fight on their hands,'' an insider said. ''There is talk [ARLC chairman] John Grant is obsessed with attention, but the fact is he's really switched on when it comes to driving a business, and Graeme Samuel and [acting ARLC chief executive] Shane Mattiske are doing a great job up front.

''The current league negotiators are better placed to handle these type of negotiations than the game has been in the past. They are tough and smart. It's more professional than the cricket, and much more like the AFL. David Gallop was hamstrung by News Ltd's involvement in the game in the past.

''Mattiske is making a good impression in negotiations. If he plays this right he could be an underdog for the commission CEO's role. He's a frank, straight-shooting, passionate sort of guy. Professional negotiators have given the league the chance to get the best possible outcome.''

The negotiating team reports to a sub-committee comprising Grant, Ian Elliot, Jeremy Sutcliffe and Gary Pemberton, representing the ARLC.

The ARLC has told the networks what it would like from the deal, in terms of scheduling arrangements. Insiders say it is not only keen on a free-to-air game on Saturday nights, but also having all of the free-to-air games simulcast on Fox, which is what happens with the AFL.

Whether any of this becomes a reality is going to come down to the hard-edged negotiations that will begin soon. The networks are planning their next moves, and at this stage all elements of the game - club and representative - remain up for grabs.

Insiders say that - apart from the obvious, that Nine and Fox want to keep what they have got, three games and five games a week respectively - Seven is mainly interested in getting one club game a week and the ratings crown in the jewel, State of Origin. And indications are that Ten is serious about hacking off a big chunk of the league pie.

It was reported yesterday that Ten is close to finalising the sale of its outdoor advertising business, Eye Corp, for between $125 million and $150 million. That would obviously boost its chances of being able to buy big into league. And it is understood Seven is also in the process of making a major capital-raising move.

''The talk is that Ten are going to throw everything at league,'' an insider said.
The unprecedented interest in the game from the networks will inevitably mean an even better coverage.

''The viewer is going to be the big winner,'' an insider said. ''League is already a great television product, but it's going to get even better.''
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Top