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The T.V Rights Thread Part III

How much will the Total Broadcast Rights Deal be?


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Feej

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Geez Ch9 are plugging that they are the home of rugby league. That advert is on frequently.

The advert is the biggest suck up to the NRL. I really hope 1 game goes to CH10 preferably a Saturday evening or a Sunday evening game.
It's an embarrassing plea to the NRL. Makes me want to puke every time it comes on.
 

Ron's_Mate

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It's hard to see the point of that ad. I doubt it's going to impress the hard heads at the Commission. Seems it might be more about morale building at Nein.

It's also interesting that they have Voss calling games again - perhaps a late in the day attempt to raise the professionalism of their product.
 

Brutus

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Geez Ch9 are plugging that they are the home of rugby league. That advert is on frequently.

The advert is the biggest suck up to the NRL. I really hope 1 game goes to CH10 preferably a Saturday evening or a Sunday evening game.

I notice there's no vossy on the ad.
 

taipan

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Why 9 doesn't settle for the "temporary" home of rugby league.

These belated fawning ads: the home of rugby league,suggests an act of desperation.They could just as easily promote "the half way house for the AFL".
 

papabear

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imo the biggest thing with the rights will be what they spend it on, not how much they get.

Imo the max they should give the club is 5 mill a year and more likely should be 4 or 4.5, the rest should go into grass roots and starting up school competitions and competitions like auskick/rl version and oztag everywhere.

The point is money needs to be spent building and consolidating the code not on spending money on the clubs.
 

100%green

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imo the biggest thing with the rights will be what they spend it on, not how much they get.

Imo the max they should give the club is 5 mill a year and more likely should be 4 or 4.5, the rest should go into grass roots and starting up school competitions and competitions like auskick/rl version and oztag everywhere.

The point is money needs to be spent building and consolidating the code not on spending money on the clubs.

Spot on!!! I also think a small amount of the money needs to be spent on international development either in the pacific or further. The debacle that is turning Origin selection on it's head is a prime example not to mention the amount of players from the pacific in our comp and the fact the AFL is now starting to target them I think this needs to be a part of the vision for the funding.

With grassroots we can't forget the other states (NT, SA, WA, TAS & VIC) and most importantly the indigenous programs nationwide.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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Grass roots definitely needs at least a 25% share of the pie. I include development in the pacific in that.

We have a duty to the game to grow it.

I'm sure the CEO's don't think so.
 

El Diablo

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Grass roots definitely needs at least a 25% share of the pie. I include development in the pacific in that.

We have a duty to the game to grow it.

I'm sure the CEO's don't think so.

don't be so sure http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...xpects-criticism/story-fnca0von-1226397198771

"It's about grassroots. This is what Phil would say, and I believe he is absolutely right.

"It's not about today, it's about 15 or 20 years from now.

"Where we need to defend is at the grassroots. In really simple terms we need to connect with people, and bring people from the grassroots through."

Not just in western Sydney either. "We have a much broader view than western Sydney," Grant says.

"Western Sydney gets the attention because it's really obvious. There is no doubt that comment I made about getting back to the grassroots, and getting and keeping more people in the game, applies right across our regions."
 

Perth Red

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Reality is we should be in for a rise overall from all funding sources of over $125mill a year.

Clubs should get $2mill extra each (that should see at least each club financially secure) $32mill
Expansion of two new clubs will cost around $13mill a year (from 2015)
Increased running costs of the NRL (marketing, membership, ticket subsidies, travel etc) $20mill a year

That leaves $60mill a year + the $8mill the ARL where getting + the $ difference of the News grant minus the Storm extra payment $3.5mill

In theory the ARLC should have over $70mill a year to invest in the game at other levels beyond NRL.

That is presuming of course they get the media, betting, naming rights deals they should be getting.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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As long as he walks the walk.

I don't think, after the events of the last couple of weeks, that he has any issues doing just that.

But its a fair comment. I agree.

I'm really looking forward to his next move and the predictable News push against it.
 

Perth Red

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Next biggie will obviously be the Tv rights announcement due in July/August. I can see Fox getting every game live so the News Ltd media should be happy with him. After that will quickly come the announcement on expansion, Brisbane 2 seem a certainty so expect Broncos News Ltd to fall out with him again, and then by the end of the year I expect to see some big announcements about the grass roots structure of the game (probably the hardest in many ways as it has to involve all of the states grass roots bodies) and no doubt few will be happy with that as hopefully it brings a national cohesion to the game and some states groups will lose some of their power.
 

Ray Mosters

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Next biggie will obviously be the Tv rights announcement due in July/August.
Dont expect any announcement about the rights till the 4th quarter and possibly even early next year.

There is a considerable amount of financial pressure mounting on Channel 9 through this year as they get closer to the Feb date of their multi billion dollar debt maturation and their ongoing ownership uncertainty.

And with things being very tough in the media marketplace at the moment the TV rights fight will be very scrappy indeed.

This is the last significant aussie TV sports property that is for sale leading into the online age and 7, 9 and 10 all know that if they can secure the rights for a reasonable sum that sets themselves up for 5 years of profitability.

That in turn gives them the financially agility to respond to changes in the fragmenting marketplace and gives them the opportunity to be at the top of whatever remains of broadcast television in Australia.

In contrast, if they make a bad deal, that leeches money away during these important years, then they will be caught short when the NRL licence expires, without the ability to buy the content or access or develop the technologies or whatever the hell ends up having to happen.

It would be far more preferable to make no deal than that, and survive on cheap american content and cooking game shows while the next phase of broadcast television begins.

In alot of ways, the stakes are higher for the networks than for us. Our product is basically guaranteed, as much as some people make a fair bit of cash scaring people into thinking that a GWS team could mean the end of the code the truth is we are entrenched and untouchable. People dont put Channel 10 scarves on their kids cribs, they put Parra colours. The only question for us is the degree to which we prosper.

The same cant be said for the networks.
 

whall15

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Nine have found a Plan B if they do not get the NRL

Channel 9 is considering covering WAFL football next year if the ABC decides not to take up its one-year option to broadcast the 2013 season.


ABC television chiefs will meet the WA Football Commission in Perth this week for pivotal negotiations over the future of its WAFL coverage.


The current deal with the league gives the ABC an option to cover the WAFL in 2013 subject to the competition meeting certain key performance indicators.


The ABC refused to identify the KPIs but they are understood to include better ratings figures than last season.


An ABC spokesman admitted ratings were down this season but refused to supply figures to The West Australian.


“It is only a couple of months into the 2012 season so (it’s) a bit premature to be talking about 2013,” the spokesman said.


“We won’t be giving a running commentary on the new contract.”


But the ABC confirmed that Justin Holdforth, its head of television sport, would be in Perth this week to “talk to the WAFL about progress so far”.


Ratings supplied by OzTam, the official source of national television audiences, showed WAFL figures have plummeted since last season.


WAFL audiences ranged from 39,000 to 126,000 last season but OzTam figures revealed that only 24,000 people watched East Fremantle’s match against Subiaco last Saturday.


And the audience was just 10,000 for Claremont’s clash with Peel earlier in the month.
Channel 9 Perth managing director Paul Bowen confirmed that the station had started negotiations with the WAFL over potential coverage next season.


It is likely Nine would use its digital channels Gem or Go! to show the State league.
“We have had some discussions with the WAFL about broadcasting WAFL next year though that is still some way down the track,” Mr Bowen said.


“They still have a term to run with the ABC but we have had some discussions and we will see what comes out of that.
“Personally, I think it is good.”


Channel 7 is also examining an option to cover the WAFL.


The WAFL will pay $100,000 to the ABC this year to help underwrite the television coverage after fighting to maintain the 25-year relationship with national broadcaster.
It costs the ABC about $800,000 a year to broadcast the WAFL.


The ABC considered ending its coverage of all State football leagues this year to focus on its key strategic areas of women’s, regional and paralympic sports.


WAFC competitions director Grant Dorrington told last year’s Senate inquiry into ABC programming that the live television coverage was the league’s single most important asset.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/13978675/channel-9-looks-to-wafl/
 

steeden.

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Given Channel 9 currently broadcasts a Queensland Cup game every Sunday they may look at more if they happen to lose the NRL rights? I'm not sure of exact figures but I'm sure I've read the QCup is rating quite well / far better than when the ABC had it.
 

Red&BlackBear

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Given Channel 9 currently broadcasts a Queensland Cup game every Sunday they may look at more if they happen to lose the NRL rights? I'm not sure of exact figures but I'm sure I've read the QCup is rating quite well / far better than when the ABC had it.

That's probably because of scheduling though. On AbC it was on at 2pm, Saturday with no fta NRL games. Where as now it's on at 2pm Sunday, just before a fta NRL game. I actually miss the abc coverage to be honest.
 
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