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The T.V Rights Thread Part III

How much will the Total Broadcast Rights Deal be?


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Ray Mosters

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The very latest would be October 31st but I do not suspect it will go that long.
Why do you say that?

I know that Channel 9 and Fox have the ability to call an end to proceedings by making the last bid, but I would think that the league would be better served to drag it right out, to put pressure on 9.

Thats the only way I see it going to any other bidder.
 

PaddyBoy

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Why do you say that?

I know that Channel 9 and Fox have the ability to call an end to proceedings by making the last bid, but I would think that the league would be better served to drag it right out, to put pressure on 9.

Thats the only way I see it going to any other bidder.

The old contract is up on the first of November, so after that we'd lose all our money, the players and staff wouldn't get paid, etc.

If nothing is done by then you'd think they'd sign a 1 year deal.
 

PaddyBoy

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Murdoch wields axe and cheque book
June 20, 2012 - 10:43AM
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Rupert Murdoch cuts and spends. Photo: AFP
News Ltd is expected to announce a major round of job cuts this morning, joining Fairfax Media in streamlining print and digital operations.

The job cuts, possibly numbering about 1000, come just two days after Fairfax Media revealed plans to lop 1900 jobs, or about one-in-five staff, over the next three years.

News is expected to hold a staff meeting at 10.30am, AEST, to reveal the job losses.


Rupert Murdoch's News, though, has acted ahead of any job cut announcements with a surprise takeover bid for Consolidated Media Holdings, a major stakeholder of Foxtel and Foxtel Sports.

The News bid values ConsMedia at $3.50 a share, or about $1.97 billion, and has the blessing of billionaire James Packer who holds a 50 per cent stake in the company through Consolidated Press Holdings (CPH).

‘‘CPH welcomes News's proposal and looks forward to [ConsMedia] and News working together to address the detailed terms and conditions,’’ Mr Packer said in a statement.

CPH considers the offer price to be fair will support the proposal in the absence of a superior cash offer, he said.

News would emerge with 50 per cent control of Foxtel, the country's biggest pay TV operator, and all of FoxTel Sports - provided it can secure approval from market regulator, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. Telstra holds the other half of Foxtel.

News's parent, News Corp. has been the centre of a series of investigations in the UK after at least one of its newspapers engaged in widescale telephone hacking. The company, constrolled by the US-based billionaire Mr Murdoch, has also been accused of wielding excessive political clout in the country - an issue which may get an airing in Australia given the current consolidation apparently underway.


At Fairfax, meanwhile, investors are awaiting the next move by Gina Rinehart, the world's richest woman and also Fairfax's biggest single shareholder. Mrs Rinehart is demanding three seats on the company's board and has so far failed to respond to a letter from Fairfax journalists calling on her to sign up to their charter of independence from management influence on their work.

Packer's plan

Mr Packer, meanwhile, would all but exit Australia's media market, leaving him with just a 6.9 per cent stake in Ten Network.

The ConsMedia deal, though, would bolster Mr Packer's warchest by about $1 billion as he considers expanding his 10 per cent stake in Echo Entertainment.

On a much smaller scale, News is also understood to have purchased the niche business commentary website Business Spectator and its sister Eureka Report publication.

The takeover action in the media sector has helped lift Fairfax shares this morning. They were up as much as 4.2 per cent or 2.5 per cent in early trading, to 62 cents. The stock has had a volatile week, soaring on Monday and diving yesterday.

News Ltd and ConsMedia shares are in a trading halt until 11am AEST.



Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/m...cheque-book-20120620-20mw7.html#ixzz1yI4daWuU

Relevant I guess, Packer will no longer be tied to Foxtel, correct?

More chance of a free to air 10 deal?
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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I know that Channel 9 and Fox have the ability to call an end to proceedings by making the last bid,

Say what?

I don't think you get the concept of the last bid. 9 and Fox can't say "This is the last bid and that's it. No more bid" Is that what you're suggesting?

They have the RIGHTS to the last bid....i.e 7 / 10's bid MUST be presented for them to match before the ARLC can accept it. Nine and Fox then have to match or better it.

There is nothing stopping them then going back to 7 / 10 at all for another high bid, but the are not REQUIRED to.
 

duylm

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The old contract is up on the first of November, so after that we'd lose all our money, the players and staff wouldn't get paid, etc.

If nothing is done by then you'd think they'd sign a 1 year deal.

That worst case scenario could end up being a pretty good outcome. Sell all 8 games to free-to-air @ $180-$200m for 1 year and really sink the boot into foxtel. It'll just delay our strategic planning, but a forward thinking ARLC would push ahead with that anyway.

Although Fox may be coming to the party properly anyway now that Kim fumble-lover is not longer the head.
 

Kirky

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I believe i read somewhere around September/October
Would be good if the rights were announced after the completion of the NRL season. Prevents Win/Nine from being d*cks with the coverage (especially in VIC/SA/WA) if and when they lose the rights.
 

El Diablo

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http://afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/news_circles_packer_consmedia_stake_baNXrfBkcAktVoXWbMh9qK

Mr Packer had been pushing for a price closer to $4 a share. Any sale of the stake would in effect end the Packer family’s major interests in Australian media, although Mr Packer still has a 9 per cent interest in Ten Network Holdings.

Sources close to Foxtel said the revised price was fair given the slow uptake in new subscribers this year. The slow growth is particularly frustrating for Foxtel and Fox Sports executives given pay TV now has the rights to broadcast all regular season AFL games.

Foxtel sources said the number of new customers signing up for the AFL was below expectations.

wonder what this means for their NRL bid
 

Canucks

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You would have to think their strategy will shift from growth to retention... If they have spent 600m on AFL and had subpar growth, League could then threaten to undermine their income by taking the game to FTA exclusively.....

The downside is that Kim Williams, who looks like an 1800s pedo, hates league, and they are taking over Fox Sports
 

papabear

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Reality is we should be in for a rise overall from all funding sources of over $125mill a year.

Clubs should get $2mill extra each (that should see at least each club financially secure) $32mill
Expansion of two new clubs will cost around $13mill a year (from 2015)
Increased running costs of the NRL (marketing, membership, ticket subsidies, travel etc) $20mill a year

That leaves $60mill a year + the $8mill the ARL where getting + the $ difference of the News grant minus the Storm extra payment $3.5mill

In theory the ARLC should have over $70mill a year to invest in the game at other levels beyond NRL.

That is presuming of course they get the media, betting, naming rights deals they should be getting.
you havent included what they are currently paying to clubs.
 

Ray Mosters

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Say what?

I don't think you get the concept of the last bid. 9 and Fox can't say "This is the last bid and that's it. No more bid" Is that what you're suggesting?

They have the RIGHTS to the last bid....i.e 7 / 10's bid MUST be presented for them to match before the ARLC can accept it. Nine and Fox then have to match or better it.

There is nothing stopping them then going back to 7 / 10 at all for another high bid, but the are not REQUIRED to.
Quite right you are. The last bid restricts the league from accepting a non-channel 9 bid unless channel 9 have been given a chance to match it.
 

Billythekid

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It shouldn't mean anything for our bid. All it means is that yet again fox has paid overs for the AFL expecting them to lead subscriptions and yet again that has failed.

What it does mean is that if they lose the NRL rights after paying such a ridiculous amount of money for the AFL they are basically f*cked and will lose a ton of money/subscriptions.

They are in a position of weakness and if they don't pony up a lot of cash the NRL should tell them to f*ck off. Even if we get a slightly worse deal going to FTA it will be much worse for them and it increases our exposure anyway. So the NRL's message to fox should be "pay up or f*ck off".
 

PaddyBoy

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:lol:

Just got the image of some NRL Exec in tense negotiations.

Fox Exec: Listen sir, we don't believe the deal you are presenting will give us respectable returns for our investors.

RL Exec: Listen up merkin, pay up or f**k off.
 
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