The TV rights thread part II

[carlosthedwarf]

Probably some revenue sharing since the FTA rights holder/Foxtel would be providing pictures. Unless the NRL wants to start covering its own games.

 

[El Diablo]

How would they get content?

Would we basically make FOX/FTA pay for it and then tell them we're gonna use their efforts to sell it ourselves and cut out their viewers?

This isn't me putting down the idea - it's a serious question. Is this how it would be done?

what would be the diff between the NRL selling it themselves or selling the online rights to Telstra who then do the same thing?

Telstra own no part of Fox Sports or any FTA TV network

 

[nrlnrl]

$200 a year for the ability to watch any game live, on pc/tablet/phone, whenever you want with live pause/rewind etc... isn't that much. Season runs March-September, that's less than $30 a month. If it included representative matches and Toyota Cup that's a good deal I believe.

I pay $180 a year for NBA after a returning susbcriber discount, which is completely worth it as I don't have to pay for Foxtel/ESPN. The advantage they have is a bigger market for their service, any NRL service will need to be priced accordingly here.

$200 was just a number I threw out, but they'd need to price it so that it's not too attractive to draw large number of viewers away from the people paying for the TV deal.

It'd be great if this did eventuate sooner rather than later, but remember we're lucky in Australia when subscribing to websites for US sports. We're not subjected to any blackouts of games - as Americans are with certain games in certain sports. ( for live coverage via internet and tv, e.g. NBA ). If / when the NRL does start such a service, there would be restrictions to certain areas for certain games.

An example from the NBA

http://neulion.vo.llnwd.net/o37/nba/...termsofuse.htm

BLACKOUT RESTRICTIONS

The Service may only be used and/or accessed from the allowable territories as determined by NBAP (which shall exclude, without limitation, the United States, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Bermuda, Guam, the People’s Republic of China (including Macau but excluding Hong Kong and Taiwan), Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Syria). Blackout restrictions may apply to the Service depending on the date of the applicable game, your location and any applicable local, national and international content distribution exclusivity requirements. You may therefore be unable to view certain games via the Service from some locations.

 

[rygrco]

Yeah. Geo-blocking certain IP addresses because of contractual agreements with the TV subscription of those particular areas.

For example, "authorised" live NRL streaming is already available http://www.livenrl.tv/page/Home, just not to NZ and Australian (and a bunch of other countries) IP addresses. The cost of this service, per season, is £49.99 per year (current forex $74aud). I presume that the existing contracts the NRL have with CH9, Foxtel and Telstra prevents this service from being available to Australian's, NZ's, et al. Beats me.

 

[Rexxy]

have Foxtel given up on NRL? no mention of it in their plans? Foxtel are f**kers

http://mumbrella.com.au/foxtel-edges-to-1-66m-subscribers-74033#comment-117802

Foxtel edges to 1.66m subscribers

Foxtel’s subscriber growth has continued to edge forward, according to the latest numbers released from the company.

According to Foxtel’s update on the final six months of 2011, the company’s number of subscribers including those awaiting installation was 1.66m households. This marks a fractional improvement on the set of numbers released six months ago which was 1.65m households. Foxtel’s subscription growth has slowed over the last couple of years.

Foxtel total subscribers:

2011 – 1.65m
2010 – 1.632m
2009 – 1.63m
2008 – 1.54m
2007 – 1.443m

However, the company still increased the revenue it achieved from each subscriber, announcing a 5.1% increase.

Foxtel’s EBITDA profits for the six months were $280m with profit before tax of $107m. When the company released its full year numbers six months ago it’s EBITDA profits were $550m.
Churn – the percentage of subscribers giving up the service – stood at 13.4%.
Richard Freudenstein, Foxtel’s newly arrived CEO, said: “There are really two stories in Foxtel’s results. Existing customers love our product and are taking more and more of it. But as retail and consumer services companies are finding across Australia, it remains a tough environment in which to win new customers.”

He added: “We are confident that our ground breaking AFL agreement in which we will offer every game of the AFL live and in full in 2012, our London Olympic broadcast offer which will be the most comprehensive sporting broadcast in Australian history, our world class domestic and international programming and our continued innovation will attract new customers to Foxtel”.

The company – owned by Telstra, News Corp and Consolidated Media Holdings – is still waiting to hear whether the ACCC will allow through its proposed merger with Austar.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Wow f**k Foxtel.

Sell Super Saturday to the ABC and MNF to 10 and see how they go...

 

[nrlnrl]

Wow f**k Foxtel.

Sell Super Saturday to the ABC and MNF to 10 and see how they go...

the ABC's coverage would be called Superlative Saturday

 

[Nerd]

I'm part of the 13.4% churn. Just dropped Foxtel in December and don't miss it or the $100 a month to watch Get Smart reruns.

If I'm going to miss a Broncos game every now and then so be it.

 

[umina panther]

easy when 99% of bronx games are live friday night on 9

 

[hutch]

I've noticed on most of the foxtel sports ads for 2012 they have only the afl and the Olympics! And they have a heap of foxtel afl ads on a lot of websites online, never seen them advertise the nrl!

 

[dgsfan]

It'll make it even more delightful when we beat them in the ratings. I'm not sure the extra subscription numbers supposedly generated by this new deal down south will be enough to take over League as the most watched sport on Foxtel.

 

[Tommax25]

I've noticed on most of the foxtel sports ads for 2012 they have only the afl and the Olympics! And they have a heap of foxtel afl ads on a lot of websites online, never seen them advertise the nrl!

Despite leagues strength in NSW and QLD I get the feeling that if the collective public said "ok, we love nrl but if you'd like us to we will give it up and watch afl instead" EVERYONE would say yes do it. People like nine, foxtel, non-league states and I don't know why. afl seems to have this irrational love attached to it where people want to push it no matter what.

 

[beave]

There is supposed to be a new tavern getting built near my house, as soon as it opens i am cutting the Austar off and heading down there for our away games. I also love the NFL so i am going to buy the season game pass and watch the games on my computer from next season onwards. I've pretty much had a gutful of the merkins for many different reasons. Their total disdain for our game astounds me considering the $$$$ we bring in. I long for the day there is a more viable competitor to these pricks.

They are treading on thin ice if they take league fans for granted. If they lose 2 or more games a week with the new deal, watch for a substantial drop in numbers from around Oz. Let's see you survive without us you motherf**kers!

 

[bluesbreaker]

Article in today's DT about the value of our internet rights, I can't post it at this stage.

Let's hope the govt gets its act together and stops Optus, otherwise we're going to get diddled again.

 

[Canard]

Living in Melbourne, Id love it if Foxtel signed up a deal like the AFL where every game was shown live, Id gladly pay $75 a month for this privilege.

Despite most people's optimism I can't see Nine, Seven etc. showing any NRL at reasonable times in places like Melbourne, Perth, Adelaide in the foreseeable future.

 

[bobmar28]

I'm part of the 13.4% churn. Just dropped Foxtel in December and don't miss it or the $100 a month to watch Get Smart reruns.

If I'm going to miss a Broncos game every now and then so be it.

You can watch Get Smart on channel ONE every night at 6.30 for free.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.nrl.com/commission-ready...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Commission ready to tackle broadcast negotiations

Andrew Bryan NRL.com Fri, Feb 10, 2012 - 11:30 AM

The newly appointed Australian Rugby League Commission is well placed to immediately start official negotiations of the upcoming broadcast rights deal.

While the new board only officially started running the game today, the process of talking to key stakeholders is already well and truly underway.

Inaugural chairman John Grant told NRL.com in an exclusive interview that the commissioners had been meeting twice a month and were already well prepared to tackle the highly publicised issue.

“The commissioners have been well briefed on the aspects of the broadcast rights,” Grant told NRL.com.

“The team within the NRL already has a huge understanding and a demonstration of the way we can start to reconfigure the aspects of the game that are going to play to the broadcasters' value.

“What we want is broadcasters who pay the right amount of money that we think is fair for the rights and we want to work with them to make sure they get the return they want.”

While understandably reluctant to reveal too many details about the process, Grant said the end result of the negotiations is guaranteed to make rugby league fans the real winners.

“You can expect more opportunities for live-to-air and there will certainly be more opportunities in the end product for a different level and style of engagement by the fans,” he said.

“I think we have a lot of tools at our disposal to make the game a lot more valuable to the broadcasters.

“It is a long process that needs to be finished by the end of the financial period for the league. It is a conversation between parties, one who has some wonderful content to offer, and multiple parties that want that content.”

 

[joshie]

Please Mr. Grant and co, DONT f**k IT UP!

 

[Brutus]

Mr Grant looks and sounds convincing enough. It's nice to see a confident speaker up there talking about the game.

 

[joshie]

I agree! I am kinda glad we won't have to see slackjaw Gallop as much! I like mr. Grant, I might grow a beard in idolization.