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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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Brutus

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For some reason beards tend to also mean bad breath.

Listening to Grant and then Gallop speak at this press conference is like listening to a bloke speak on regular 45 speed followed by a bloke talking on 33 and a third speed.
 

docbrown

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Interesting that the value they're giving now for internet and mobile rights is $60,000,000 and saying it's a $90,000,000 loss putting a non Optus interferring deal at $150,000,000.

Honestly my estimates were only $125,000,000 plus a seperate competition sponsorship deal that should go to open tender.
 

El Diablo

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if you go to http://www.nrl.com/ and over on the right there is a 4 part interview with Grant called "Meet the Chairman"

at the end of part 2 and start of part 3 he is asked about TV rights by Sterlo
 

kurt faulk

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what an impressive gentleman this mr grant is. initial reaction is that rugby league seems to be finally in good hands.

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SpaceMonkey

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Interesting that the value they're giving now for internet and mobile rights is $60,000,000 and saying it's a $90,000,000 loss putting a non Optus interferring deal at $150,000,000.

Honestly my estimates were only $125,000,000 plus a seperate competition sponsorship deal that should go to open tender.

They've got to be joking if they think the whole Optus thing devalues the rights by 60%. for a start it only affects 3 games per week, and doesn't even completely devalue the rights to those.... a 25% reduction in value would be very generous.
 

docbrown

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/day-target-for-nrl-tv-deal/story-e6frexnr-1226268156514

THE wheels are in motion for rugby league's highly anticipated $1 billion television broadcast deal. At the official announcement of the ARL Commission yesterday morning, it was revealed the exclusive negotiating period for current rights holders Channel 9 and Fox Sports had begun on February 1.

They now have three months to drill down a new deal - or the process will be opened up to the market with Seven and Ten already said to be interested in broadcasting rugby league.


"We go into the exclusive negotiating period with the current rights holders," chief executive David Gallop said.

"People are going to want to find out as much about that as they can, but the fact is there won't be details released on a regular basis nor should there be.

"All I can say is that we've started talks and it's good they've finally started. We now have 90 days that give us a chance to really dig down into the issues."
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Most stakeholders in the game are banking on a massive windfall from the next deal, yet the commissioners are loath to put a figure on it.

Chairman John Grant had caused confusion when he said that "less than $1 billion" would not be acceptable. He later clarified that statement, saying the game would want more than the $100 million-a-year deal its had for the past five years.
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"Why would you put a number on it when you're trying to negotiate the maximum amount?" he said.

New commissioner Ian Elliot will lead the sub-committee charged with brokering the new TV deal.

Co-commissioner Gary Pemberton, who sealed a record broadcast deal for the 2000 Sydney Olympics, said: "The reality is people are only going to throw a figure if they're posturing the other side. It doesn't really mean anything. You take it as it comes and stretch it out. I have read more about myself in this broadcast deal than I have with the Olympics."

Asked if rugby league could reach the same heights as AFL, he said: "As who? I'm not being entirely facetious because you set your own standards. You don't have your standards set by your competitors."
 

oldmancraigy

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. You don't have your standards set by your competitors."

I think he's wrong...

In the TV industry that is exactly what happens isn't it? The standards are set by the competition.

The thing he failed to mention is that we're the premiere rating program despite airing live in 2 states only. So if the competitors got a nice deal, one would imagine that sets our standard much higher (and gives us incentive to force live broadcasting nationwide - even 50k viewers in another state continues to add to the ratings win doesn't it?!?)
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ucks-will-roll-for-rights-20120210-1skpy.html

New panel hopes big bucks will roll for rights
Brad Walter
February 11, 2012

FORMAL talks about the next broadcast, pay TV and internet rights deals have already begun and will step up dramatically following the appointment of four members of the new Australian Rugby League Commission to the negotiating team.

Commission chairman John Grant revealed at his first press conference as the game's head that talks with the rights holders Channel Nine, Fox Sports and Telstra had begun on February 1.

Grant did not attend any of the meetings as the commission had not been formed but he and fellow commissioners Gary Pemberton, Ian Elliott and Jeremy Sutcliffe will be heavily involved from now on.

The quartet will join commission chief executive David Gallop and a group of consultants in negotiating what is arguably the most important financial dealings in the code's 104-year history.

Talk about the broadcast deal dominated yesterday's commission launch and the opening of the game's new Rugby League Central headquarters at Moore Park, attended by more than 400 people.

Among them were officials from all 16 NRL clubs, who lodged their membership agreements to play in the premiership for the next seven years, and the ARL, which was dissolved before the launch.

Outgoing ARL chairman John Chalk who will retain the role with the NSWRL, handed Grant a gold baton that had inscribed the dates the NSWRL, QRL, ARL and NRL had been formed.

Having finally regained control of the game from News Ltd almost 17 years after the Super League raids of 1995, there was much emotion in the room and even Gallop appeared to be a bit teary.

But the temptation to rejoice in News Ltd's departure was tempered by the sobering reality that the new body is expected to negotiate broadcast and new media deals rivalling the $1.1 billion the AFL has secured.

''The process formally began on February 1 … and we have got big expectations of that negotiation, as everyone has,'' Grant said.

''We are playing for big stakes, we are playing for a reconstruction of the finances of the game in a very significant way.''

Grant refused to put a figure on the amount he expected the game to get for the combined broadcast, pay TV and internet rights, which expired at the end of last season.

There was some confusion at the press conference when he appeared to respond to a question about estimates of $1 billion deal by saying ''we can't get less'' but Grant later told the Herald he was referring to the value of the significantly smaller current deal.

The 1972 World Cup representative, who is the founder and managing director of IT company Data#3, said he wasn't in a position to say whether the game had undersold itself in previous negotiations but insisted that would not be the case this time.

''I think the reasonable expectation of everyone is that we will get a substantial improvement in the value of what the rights have been for the last five years,'' he said.

Channel Nine, Fox Sports and Telstra each have three months to negotiate exclusively for the rights they hold but Gallop indicated no offer would be accepted until the commission had the chance to consider rival bids.

''I think we have said for some time that we want to see a very clear auction of our rights and I think that is the expectation from the sellers and the potential buyers,'' Gallop said.

The NRL, AFL and other major sporting bodies again met the federal government on Thursday to push for changes to the Copyright Act after last week's court ruling allowing Optus customers to watch games on their mobiles that Telstra had paid for.

Gallop said an appeal to the full bench of the Federal Court would also be finalised yesterday but Grant said the commission had to find other ways to provide value for its new media rights in case the decision was upheld.

''I think as a commission and as a business, things happen that you don't like,'' Grant said. ''You have to adjust to that and you have got to make the best of it.

''One of the things we would do, irrespective of this judgment, is make sure whoever we partner with for our mobile rights, we work with them to give them some degree of exclusivity.''
 

beave

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They need to cease the exclusive radio rights to 2GB and allow everyone to have a chance to broadcast it but at a pretty price....... The stance they have at the moment defies logic.
 

Raiderdave

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I think he's wrong...

In the TV industry that is exactly what happens isn't it? The standards are set by the competition.

The thing he failed to mention is that we're the premiere rating program despite airing live in 2 states only. So if the competitors got a nice deal, one would imagine that sets our standard much higher (and gives us incentive to force live broadcasting nationwide - even 50k viewers in another state continues to add to the ratings win doesn't it?!?)

yeah I agree

you can't ignore what our main competitor got
its a bench mark .. needs to be referred to as much as possible in the dealings ... certainly where foxtel is concerned.
 

docbrown

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I think he's wrong...

In the TV industry that is exactly what happens isn't it? The standards are set by the competition.

It's good to keep it in mind but what tends to happen is when you focus too much on what the competition is doing you tend to end up with crap like Excess Backage.
 
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