The TV rights thread part II

[Perth Red]

all the more reason to have expansion in 2014 so we only miss one year of the value of that 9th game!

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Out of all the hype and rumours surrounding our proposed TV rights deal, what the bookies have proposed is a genuine true reflection of what the game is expected to get. They have no other motive besides making money from bets.

Agreed, their only vested interest is getting their prediction right!

 

[El Diablo]

During the last rights negotiations, Nine put an offer on the table and gave the NRL only a few days to either accept it or it would be withdrawn.

Im assuming this wont happen this time.

Gallop has already said that he will be going to all players in the market.

the NRL signed with 9 a year earlier than they needed to last time

 

[El Diablo]

Given we have 8 games a weekend and the AFL has 9 we should expect a slightly lower deal unless we pump up the $s for SOO and International Football.

That is why those extra parts (SOO and International Football) should be sold separately.

we have more games in the season AFAIK

plus Origin

 

[russ13]

we have more games in the season AFAIK

plus Origin

& there are some awfully poor support drawing teams in the AFL as far as TV Ratings go. The length of their game & unavoidable fixture clashes & timezone problems would eat into their worth IMO.



Also the prospect of lopsided scorelines looks like becoming a permanent feature of the AFL for sometime to come

 

[BuffaloRules]

the NRL signed with 9 a year earlier than they needed to last time

Didnt they think it was better to get in first before the AFL?

Great thinking there...

 

[Raiderdave]

And the view from that market is that there is a better than evens chance that the number will be less than $1b.

same market had the AFL at less then a billion too .... ;-)

 

[Panfas]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the AFL negotiated their deal with Foxtel whilst the NRL will negotiate with Fox Sports. This is one of the reasons why there is a dedicated channel and why they paid such a high amount for the rights

 

[El Diablo]

Didnt they think it was better to get in first before the AFL?

Great thinking there...

and 7 had stated they shouldn't do what they eventually did http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/20/1092972743273.html

 

[El Diablo]

same market had the AFL at less then a billion too .... ;-)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...ll-over-the-odds/story-e6frg99o-1226044202555

 

[Quidgybo]

so why bother with 3 months of exclusive negotiations if it will just go to the open market anyway?

Because we're contractually obliged under the first and last rights agreement to give them that time? If we want yet another court case to delay the process even further then by all means let's not bother waiting for the three months. Otherwise, we just suck it up and get on with the process. We have to give them the time but nothing says we have to accept their finalised "first" offer and we probably won't.

Leigh.

 

[El Diablo]

Nine's free-to-air contract and Fox Sports's pay-TV deal conclude at the end of next year, and both have 90-day time frames to make a first offer and an opportunity to equal a rival bidder with a final offer, although Nine's right is cancelled if a rival bid exceeds it by 20 per cent.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...the-quest-for-progression-20110203-1afiv.html

 

[docbrown]

During the last rights negotiations, Nine put an offer on the table and gave the NRL only a few days to either accept it or it would be withdrawn.

Im assuming this wont happen this time.

Gallop has already said that he will be going to all players in the market.

It won't. Nine are in the weaker position.

 

[carlosthedwarf]

Nine really has to put their best offer up first otherwise they risk losing the rights.

 

[Gippsy]

Quote:
Nine's free-to-air contract and Fox Sports's pay-TV deal conclude at the end of next year, and both have 90-day time frames to make a first offer and an opportunity to equal a rival bidder with a final offer, although Nine's right is cancelled if a rival bid exceeds it by 20 per cent.

Its looking possible (probable?) that this will happen. So, if it does happen does anyone know if 9's first & last rights are lost for just this year, or does it also cancel out future years as well? Haven't 9 got these rights until 2027 or something?

 

[El Diablo]

Fox have them till ten

this will be the last time 9 have first and last unless the NRL sells them to whoever as part of the deal

they had them for 10 years

 

[El Diablo]

this is from the link i posted earlier to an article from 2003

Fox Sports has first refusal on rights until 2022, while Nine has a similar privilege for 10 years

 

[Digga Hole]

same market had the AFL at less then a billion too .... ;-)

My comment wasn't about whether the odds were right or wrong, just people's misreading of them.

In a book with a 140% win rate for the bookie (as that one is), $2.50 about over $1b is a longshot in their view.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

I see that Telstra has unveiled a $50 " mobile season pass" for the AFL. I realize they pay sweet FA for the NRL rights at present, but what what do they currently get out of it if they can't/don't show live matches?

 

[bobmar28]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the AFL negotiated their deal with Foxtel whilst the NRL will negotiate with Fox Sports. This is one of the reasons why there is a dedicated channel and why they paid such a high amount for the rights

And Kim Williams love affair with the AFL.