The TV rights thread part II

[T to the T]

Without having to wade through this whole thread, when are the final TV rights going to be announced? Cheers

 

[El Diablo]

I read an article about the ratings for Revenge on 7 this week. 2 million people tuned in. But then in the comments section, a lot of people were saying they wouldn't bother watching again, because it was easier to download rather than wait for episodes to arrive in Australia. The same could be said about virtually any other US series.

Goes to show the value of live sports. No delay means no leakage of viewers who are too impatient!

Revenge has already aired 14 eps in the USA

you can download it in HD with no ads or watch it on 7 in SD with ads

which would you chose?

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

On the flipside they would probably say they are advertising AFL because the awareness isn't as high as NRL. They know that NRL rates through the roof, and has 74 odd of the 100 highest rated programs. After all thats what their push with 8 live afl games was all about.

They're forgetting the one thing about AFL that they all seem to forget, in NSW and QLD, less is more...

The more they've pushed it over the years, the more their ratings have dropped, on FTA anyway.

 

[whall15]

Ratings winner for Ten

Friday
6:00 The Rugby League Project
7:00 Friday Night Football
9:00 Friday Night Football

Saturday
5:30 Saturday Night Football
7:30 Saturday Night Football
9:30 Saturday Night Football
11:30 Midnight Premier League
2:00 Sunday Morning Premier League

Sunday
2:00 Sunday Afternoon Football
4:00 Sunday Afternoon Football
6:00 News
6:30 The Rugby League Project
7:30 Sunday Night Football
9:30 Rubbish
next morning
Monday Morning Premier League

Monday
6:00 The Rugby League Project
7:00 Monday Night Football
9:00 One Week At A Time

It makes sense.

 

[Razor]

That said, there's no way Ten can afford all 8 games. Simple as that in the end. Ten taking a 2-4 games is fine, but all of them? I'm questioning their ability to afford it. Stories like that may inflate the price, but its hard to believe its veracity.

7 bought the rights to all 8 AFL games a week. Then they onsold some to Foxtel (who onsold them to Fox Sports). 10 Might do the same.

 

[docbrown]

Ratings winner for Ten

Friday
6:00 The Rugby League Project
7:00 Friday Night Football
9:00 Friday Night Football

Saturday
5:30 Saturday Night Football
7:30 Saturday Night Football
9:30 Saturday Night Football
11:30 Midnight Premier League
2:00 Sunday Morning Premier League

Sunday
2:00 Sunday Afternoon Football
4:00 Sunday Afternoon Football
6:00 News
6:30 The Rugby League Project
7:30 Sunday Night Football
9:30 Rubbish
next morning
Monday Morning Premier League

It makes sense.

Start Sunday coverage at 1 with the news at 5pm and add a Monday night game and you are so so close...

 

[docbrown]

I guess if they were going to do this they would probably show the big games (Friday nights and Sunday games) on 10 and all the other games on One HD.

Yep.

It would certainly give the digital channel a massive boost in viewership.

Yep.

If 10 gets all 8 games then Fox would also get 8 game simucast but the value would be much much lower as who would subscribe when you can get it for free?

People who want all 8 games live and commercial free which they've never had before.

 

[whall15]

They are going for the Premier League aswell?

 

[whall15]

Ratings winner for Ten

Friday
6:00 The Rugby League Project
7:00 Friday Night Football
9:00 Friday Night Football

Saturday
5:30 Saturday Night Football
7:30 Saturday Night Football
9:30 Saturday Night Football
11:30 Midnight Premier League
2:00 Sunday Morning Premier League

Sunday
1:00 Sunday Afternoon Football
3:00 Sunday Afternoon Football
5:00 News
6:00 The Rugby League Project
7:00 Sunday Night Football
9:30 Rubbish
next morning
Monday Morning Premier League

Monday
6:00 The Rugby League Project
7:00 Monday Night Football
9:00 One Week At A Time

It makes sense.

How about now?

 

[docbrown]

Andrew Webster on the Grill Team just before. said someone "in the know" told him if 9 lose FNF they may as well pack it in as a network.

Yep...

 

[Quidgybo]

Notice as soon as News ltd is out of the equation,a new i.C with high profile people running the show,the interest seems to have grown in securing rugby league.

I'd suggest it has less to do with News being out and the Commission in than in the simple fact that formal negotiations have finally started and Nein/Fox are working up to their opening offer. Of course the resolution of the Commission handover is what has unblocked the television rights bidding process but I doubt there'd be much less interest no matter who was in charge. The game is going gangbusters and every sane television executive would want in on that.

The great thing about Ten and Seven coming out and expressing their explicit interest at this point is that it's going to force up the Nein/Fox opening bid. Even if Seven and Ten ultimately have no intention of bidding or bidding seriously, just the fact they could be in the game increases the stakes for the incumbents. Of course it's even better if they are serious and have a real crack but either way they're doing us a favour foreshadowing their run in forcing a higher base price on the negotiations to come.

Leigh.

 

[docbrown]

How about now?

Well no comment on premier league but I've spoken elsewhere about how cutting across 7 & 9's 6pm news would be to 10's advantage...

 

[El Diablo]

10 would have to can The Project

all the nutters on that crap hate Rugby League

 

[VictoryFC]

They are going for the Premier League aswell?

Premier League rates like dog shit on Fox, only marginally better than A-League when its a decent match up. Why would any FTA network want it?

 

[whall15]

If anyone from Channel 10 is reading, which I doubt. Get the NRL and the Premier League.

Winning timeslots from like 5:30 in the afternoon until about 4am the next morning would be gold. Big Premier League games would do at least 300,000 which at 2am or something would be absolutely insane.

 

[docbrown]

At the moment here's how Channel 9 promote Rugby League on their channel:

"UNDERBELLY... THE OLYMPICS... BLAH BLAH... SOME CRAP SHOWS THAT WILL GET AXED... nrl..."

Here's how Ten will do it:

NRL ON 10

Based on what I've been informed of this negotiation won't just go down as the biggest sports broadcasting deal but it will likely go down as one of the biggest turning points in Australian television history.

 

[beave]

Am I the only one this morning with a little bit more of a spring in his step????

Like I said earlier in this thread, game on motherf**kers!!!!

 

[whall15]

Premier League rates like dog shit on Fox, only marginally better than A-League when its a decent match up. Why would any FTA network want it?

Reasons below, add the fact that's it's quite cheap. That and the fact I'd love to see it on FTA.

 

[Quidgybo]

7 bought the rights to all 8 AFL games a week. Then they onsold some to Foxtel (who onsold them to Fox Sports). 10 Might do the same.

That was last deal wasn't it? Seven *and* Ten bought all eight games as a consortium and then on sold four to Fox after much haggling. Under the current deal Fox negotiated directly with the AFL which is how they ended up with all nine games including simulcasting against Seven's four games. The question after that was whether Seven could sell one or two of those four to Ten or even Nine. Ultimately that didn't happen (yet... I suppose it could still happen in year two of the deal if they get some NRL content).

Leigh.

 

[VictoryFC]

Reasons below, add the fact that's it's quite cheap. That and the fact I'd love to see it on FTA.

Hmm, as much as I would love for that to be true, it comes back to Foxtel. EPL gives them a subscriber base (a small one, but one that can be profitable). Just like League, Fox won't relinquish it. They could lose up to 5,000 subscribers imo. And the PL seems to like their deal with Fox, they treat the game fairly without changes to scheduling, and they probably pay more than FTA networks would offer. Also for large parts of the year big matches in the PL start at 9-10:30 (for Asia), so an FTA network would have to shift prime time programming for it, unless they stick on a sister channel which again would be a backward step. Ultimately, EPL doesn't rate nearly well enough even on Fox to suggest it would be profitable for FTA networks.