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The TV rights thread part II

Providing the price is right which is your preferred FTA broadcast option?

  • All games on Seven

    Votes: 11 4.2%
  • All games on Nine

    Votes: 17 6.5%
  • All games on Ten

    Votes: 59 22.6%
  • Seven/Nine split

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Seven/Ten split

    Votes: 109 41.8%
  • Nine/Ten split

    Votes: 55 21.1%

  • Total voters
    261
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Goddo

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From now on, Fox Sports will be expected to pay the code that easily dominates the most-watched programs on pay TV each year more than AFL receives per game.

77/100 top rating shows. I should think so.
 

bobmar28

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Why does it matter which Foxsports channel it's on?

Because FS #1 is the default channel in most of the big clubs in NSW meaning it is always on the big screen. Of course you can ask to have it changed if no one objects but the point is if you go into a club in NSW/QLD you shouldn't have to sit there watching fumbleball when there is a game of NRL on.
 
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hutch

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Because it's just a name.

I don't even notice what channel it's on, I just press the TV guide button on my remote and scroll to the footy.

What difference does it make?

Aside from the answers already given, it's the principle! The number 1 sport should be on fox sports 1!
 

Lockyer4President!

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I could be wrong but isn't there something in the current deal about the NRL being on Fox Sports 2?

Pretty sure there isn't.

NRL was on Fox Sports 1 until the second last AFL deal when we got pushed over to FS2. Safe to assume that the AFL asked to have their games on FS1 as part of their deal.

Same way they have AFL stories on many regional news papers under the heading 'Footy'. All part of their marketing smoke&mirrors.
 

Perth Red

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More about expansion but a couple of theories on the Tv deal and timings in this one:

RUGBY league's expansion clubs will know if they are in contention for an NRL licence by July, with the ARL Commission set to announce growth guidelines mid-year.
It is believed the ARLC will detail its ideal expansion timelines once the code's broadcast rights deal is near completion.
A new broadcast deal must be formalised before November 1 but negotiations are progressing quickly with a resolution likely during winter.

"The television deal will likely be back-ended with the networks paying more money from 2015 to pay for the extra game."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/time-to-expand-on-best-options/story-e6frep5x-1226282013883
 

El Diablo

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dunno how they can be progressing quickly seeing other networks have to wait 90 days

maybe that can change if 9 make a bid and then the NRL can go chat to other networks without having to wait 90 days
 
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Wonder who the source within the NRL is. But it makes sense that they are looking at 2015 and the inclusion of two new teams. It suggests that expansion and the possibility of a ninth game WILL add value to the deal and that the promise of teams inside the next deal period is crucial.
 

Quidgybo

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dunno how they can be progressing quickly seeing other networks have to wait 90 days

Perhaps quickly in respect of Nine agreeing key terms (eg. National coverage, expansion, advertising breaks etc). Nine might be rolling over to try and save itself. Time will tell.

Leigh
 
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El Diablo

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from page 52 of the AFR
Ten’s big guns at NRL

The National Rugby League season was officially launched last week at a function at NRL headquarters in Sydney’s Moore Park.

In a clear harbinger of their intentions over the League’s broadcast rights, Ten Network sent serious firepower – both Ten chairman Lachlan Murdoch and chief executive James Warburton. Nine chief David Gyngell was nowhere to be seen – he sent network director Jeff Browne in his stead. Seven Network was nowhere to be seen.
 

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FOR the first time in more than 20 years, Channel Nine might not have the rights to broadcast rugby league next year.


Fox Sports is also not guaranteed to retain the five live matches a week to which it holds the rights, games are likely to be available on the internet and the NRL premiership could have a new naming-rights sponsor.
Welcome to the brave new world of rugby league, where the newly formed ARL Commission makes decisions in the best interests of the game and no one else.

The first positive sign came last week when the commission decided to scrap the controversial McIntyre system used in the finals series since 1999.
For years, NRL officials had publicly and privately defended the finals format but at their first board meeting since being appointed on February 10, the eight commissioners voted to adopt the model used by the AFL.
Many more important decisions that will affect the future of the game lie ahead this year - not the least being the next broadcast deal. How much the game gets for the television rights will determine the amount of the salary cap, the size of grants from the NRL to clubs and whether new clubs are admitted to the premiership.
NRL clubs have agreed to work on the salary cap being increased from $4.3 million to $5 million next season so anything less than $1 billion for a five-year broadcast deal would be seen as a failure.
Some within the game are anticipating the deal will be worth up to $1.4 billion, putting the commissioners and ARLC chief executive David Gallop under pressure to better AFL's $1.25 billion deal.
To achieve that, the ARLC is prepared to break up the cartel of Nine, Fox Sports and Telstra that has controlled the NRL's free-to-air, pay-TV, new media and sponsorship rights deals since the end of the Super League war in 1997.
Channel Nine has been the game's free-to-air broadcaster for even longer, having assumed the rights from Channel Ten in 1990 after the rival network failed to meet payments for its $43 million three-year deal.
Nine owner Kerry Packer was also given the pay-TV rights by the ARL, prompting Rupert Murdoch to start the breakaway Super League competition as News Ltd needed league content for Foxtel.
As part of the Super League peace deal in 1997, News Ltd was given the first and last right of refusal on broadcast rights until 2022 and Channel Nine the free-to-air rights until 2007.
News Ltd gained a five-year extension on those terms as a condition of handing control of the game to an independent commission, but that is no longer the advantage it was when the media empire ran the NRL.
From now on, Fox Sports will be expected to pay the code that easily dominates the most-watched programs on pay TV each year more than AFL receives per game.
Coincidentally, it could be Murdoch's son Lachlan - a key figure in the Super League war - who could help end the stranglehold on the game by Nine, News and Telstra - partners in Foxtel.
Lachlan Murdoch was at last week's NRL launch, and the Channel Ten chairman is interested in bidding for matches from next season, including Monday Night Football and State of Origin.
Channel Seven is also believed to be interested in securing rights to some league matches, and the Herald has been told the commission will wait until after the exclusive three-month negotiating period with the present rights holders expires on May 1 before making any decision, so it can talk to rival bidders.
Both Ten and Seven have money to spend on league as Ten no longer has the rights to any AFL matches, and the $95 million a year that Seven is paying for four free-to-air matches is similar to the previous deal the two networks shared.



I almost shot my bolt when I read that story. Bend Nein over and make their eyes water!

I could be wrong but isn't there something in the current deal about the NRL being on Fox Sports 2?
Haven't heard nanything like that but I'd be surprised if AFL on FS1 was NOT part of their deals. Much too smart for Fe Fi Fo Ummm and his Nein apostles (apologists?).

Seven is an even worse channel then Nine
Disagree. While Nein was screwing RL royally in the 90s, Seven was promoting the sh*t out of AFL and rode that wave to parity with Nein from a vastly inferior position. I've often wondered how much better off we would be if those roles had been reversed.
 

Poupou Escobar

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With all this talk of chasing

one

BILLION

dollars

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the assumption is that we're looking for a five-year deal.

My question is why five years exactly? Why not go for a shorter deal with the expectation that price per year will be even greater next time? Especially if we go into the next deal with the intent to sacrifice income for greater exposure.

If, as I've heard a couple of times, the crucial deal is actually the one after the one currently being negotiated, wouldn't it be better for the NRL to bring that deal forward as soon as possible by making the next one as short as is feasible?

Why five years?
 
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Certainty I guess. What I want to know is why do we do our deal a year after the AFL? It can't be a good situation, especially when networks may have forked out a lot for their rights. I remember back in about 2000 the NRL did a six-year deal. Why was that? Why six years that time? If that deal had been for five years we wouldn't have been in this situation of following the AFL.
 
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