The TV rights thread part II

[Brutus]

Foxtel or PMG must be kidding themselves if they think they shouldn't have to increase the amount they pay for RL this time around.

They know more than anyone else that we had a News LTD lackey doing the deal last time around. The goal posts have changed this time around.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Provided NRL have alternatives to Foxtel....

Otherwise they will pay whatever they like...

 

[Brutus]

Good negotiating skills, using the brilliant TV figures our game produces should ensure there are quality alternatives.

 

[Raiderdave]

So let me get this straight - I claim it's a negotiation and of course the media chiefs are going to be coming off a low figure and in response you bring up a recent example of them doing.......exactly that? Thanks wiz.

yep .... making sure the posters in here who don't know this get the info .. again .. worded differently

K ?
thanks wiz ;-)

 

[Raiderdave]

Lol they can try play hardball all they want, the fact that NRL accounts for something like 65% of the most watched programs on Foxtel speaks for itself

Foxtel is already on the backfoot with digital distribution, basically the only asset they can leverage over that growing market is live sport

65% ... ?............... Try 77% :shock:;-)

 

[juro]

That 77% was last year's numbers, wasn't it? How is 2011 looking?

 

[Raiderdave]

If foxtel's excuse for not being able to pay much more for the NRL rights then they did in 2007 is

well .. we paid all this money for the AFL ... and .. umm , we can't afford to pay much more this time round
umm:sarcasm: sorry bout that

the NRL's reponse should be

ahh..:?:lol::lol:


theres the door .... make sure it doesn't hit you in the butt on the way out ;-)

 

[Raiderdave]

Provided NRL have alternatives to Foxtel....

Otherwise they will pay whatever they like...

the fact Foxtel paid as little as they did last time will come back to hurt them

I'd think there'd be some FTA stations seeing the value in NRL rights that Foxtel are having trouble seeing for some reason ATM

won't be hard to trump foxtel's present deal & if it were a combo of FTA stations ... say 2 each & ch9 getting a 4th game
it will be a piece of piss to


Foxtel can go whistle dixie ;-)

 

[docbrown]

Like I said:

It's just talk...

 

[El Diablo]

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/foxtel-could-miss-out-on-nrl-gallop-20110824-1j9x9.html

Foxtel could miss out on NRL: Gallop
David Beniuk
August 24, 2011 - 6:04PM

AAP

NRL boss David Gallop says Foxtel risks being frozen out of rugby league's next broadcast deal if it isn't prepared to pay full value for the rights to the competition.

Responding to a pay TV executive's comments that talk of a $1 billion-plus deal was "confusing", Gallop said every NRL game could end up on free-to-air television.

"We need to receive value and recognition for the fact that over 70 per cent of the top hundred shows on Foxtel are rugby league games," Gallop told AAP on Wednesday.

"Clearly, if we don't believe we're getting the appropriate value for that, we'll explore other options."

Consolidated Media Holdings (ConsMedia) executive chairman John Alexander said on Tuesday there were "question marks about some of the sporting costs".

ConsMedia is a part owner of Foxtel and Premier Media Group, the producer of Fox Sports.

"I don't think there is any appetite at Fox Sports to hand vast additional cheques for no extra value," Alexander said.

"Unless (current free-to-air broadcaster) Channel Nine has got much deeper pockets than we all believe, then I think the prices that have been talked about with the NRL remain confusing."

NRL clubs were recently told a five-year deal from 2013, worth $1.4 billion - significantly more than the AFL's $1.25 billion - was a possibility.

The deal will be negotiated by rugby league's incoming independent commission, expected to take control of the game on November 1.

Gallop said Alexander's comments represented good old fashioned haggling.

"It's not surprising that any buyer in any market is going to play down the price, but we look forward to demonstrating our value to the broadcasters when we get the chance," Gallop said.

By "extra value", Fox Sports could mean more than the current five games screened live on the network.

More games could mean more teams but Gallop said recently expansion was unlikely until 2015 as the existing 16 NRL clubs reaped the benefits of the new deal.

The AFL contract includes all nine games being shown live each week on Foxtel from 2012, when the GWS Giants complete that league's latest round of expansion.

The Nine Network currently screens three NRL games a week, but only one live in NSW and Queensland.

Nine boss David Gyngell has suggested more ad breaks, at scrums or drop-outs, to increase the value of the rugby league product.

 

[El Diablo]

Gallop finally seems to be more of a leader tthese days

wish he'd have a word to 9 over their disgraceful coverage

 

[nrlnrl]

Like I said:

It's just talk...

Guys - just listen to the good doctor who I think most of you would realise knows more about this topic than most ( if not all ) on this forum. There's speculation from various parties going back & forth at the moment like 2 tentative boxers. Naturally the SMH is going to keep jabbing at Foxtel with negative articles as they can't really respond until the IC is formed.

Until this happens, we can't even have the weigh in - please be patient & wait until the real punches are thrown.

 

[docbrown]

Gallop finally seems to be more of a leader tthese days

wish he'd have a word to 9 over their disgraceful coverage

Has to shore up his credentials with the IC.

But I said this is just talk.

Frankly I'd love to see Foxtel squeezed out of games. It would end their monopoly of subscription television in Australia. It's widely acknowledged by anybody who knows anything in the industry that Foxtel has been able to hold back local content development by having a dominating market presence.

 

[aarondoyle]

If there was another company that wanted to enter the Aussie subscription RV market, this could be a good opportunity.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...-tv-hopes-unreal/story-e6frfgbo-1226121529187

Melbourne Storm live TV hopes unreal

Russell Gould
From: Herald Sun
August 25, 2011 12:00AM

THE next NRL TV rights deal won't fully solve the problem of horrible home-town coverage for Melbourne Storm, with regular live free-to-air telecasts considered highly unrealistic.

There's an increasing frustration among Storm fans, the club and even the NRL that the competition's benchmark team has been relegated to the graveyard shift on consecutive Friday nights, despite both being blockbuster games, includingFriday night's clash with second-placed Manly.

The club has directed angry fans to start an online campaign against Channel 9, its angst increased with revelations last week's win over St George Illawarra was the second highest rating regular season NRL game in history, attracting 1.44 million viewers.

Despite that appetite for Storm games, both the NRL and leading media buyer Harold Mitchell said live or even near-live coverage of all games on free-to-air in Melbourne could not be argued for inclusion in the next TV rights deal, which starts in 2013.

Mitchell said all parties had to be realistic about what they were willing to accept and permanent live coverage of Storm games in Melbourne was not.

Instead, he said the NRL needed to urge whichever free-to-air network got the rights to explore the flexibility in its digital channels and also to temper the expectations of clubs, like Storm, which wanted their needs met.

"They have to work on that flexibility rather than try for the impossible, which just won't be done. If you try and make too many demands of the network, you won't get anywhere," Mitchell said.

"The high watermark is the AFL, and they achieved their result with a great sense of co-operation with their media partner."

The NRL wants better coverage in Melbourne but won't push for a fixed scheduling policy for Storm games knowing that could reduce its bargaining power.

And the league doesn't want to force games into the Melbourne market fearing the "Iron Chef factor", which saw AFL games shown live in Sydney smashed in the ratings by the SBS cooking show, creating negative press for the code's growth there.

NRL spokesman John Brady said the league would make better scheduling in Melbourne a priority.

"There's no doubt everyone in the game would like to see an improvement in the situation in Melbourne.

"At this stage it's hard to quantify what that would be, and that becomes part of the negotiation.

"Everyone has to be realistic with the outcome," Brady said.

 

[Perth Red]

we will NEVER grow the game without decent TV coverage into non heartland states. The NRL needs to grow some on this issue and make it a non negotiable in any new deal. With digital channels there is no excuse.

re the Fox monopoly I have to say that as a subscriber I am happy with the service. Reasonable price, lots of things to watch and the only option to see every game at a decent time for us non NSW/Q'land fans. I hope that Fox get every game live, and of course pay through the nose for it!

 

[Pete Cash]

Literally the only reason I have foxtel is for NRL coverage.

 

[El Diablo]

ignore Mitchell as he is a Uniion idiot. nobody is asking for it to be on the main channel either

i have nfi why Brady would comment seeing he is just their media relations guy

not a commish or anything

 

[Billythekid]

Who the f*ck is even asking for all games live into Melbourne? We just want storm games shown live and there is no excuse for them not to be. They would rate better than the usual crap nine has on and would no doubt flog the stuff on their secondary channels.

We have already shown that the NRL can rate well in Melbourne.

 

[cleary89]

And the league doesn't want to force games into the Melbourne market fearing the "Iron Chef factor", which saw AFL games shown live in Sydney smashed in the ratings by the SBS cooking show, creating negative press for the code's growth there.

lol