The TV rights thread

[applesauce]

Well that is good news, Leckie news is false.

 

[Goddo]

How anyone can justify expanding in Gosford following this deal is beyond me.

 

[applesauce]

For the good of the game no more NSW teams are needed right now. Simple as that. Sentiment, righting wrongs and nostalgia is done, the ramifications of falling too far the AFL this time around will be the slow decline of the overall game, which is so much bigger than the Bears.

 

[BunniesMan]

Oh please. The alternate to the Bears is Brisbane 2. Perth will be in no matter what. If the 2nd slot was between the CC and Adelaide for example, you'd have a point. As long as it's between another nuffy queensland team and the Bears. Bears win.

 

[ozjet1]

Im kind of flabbergasted. I always expected them to get a billion but to get one and a quarter is just nuts.

On top of that they got rid of BH+G and will be played live in primetime on Fridays, live saturday night and sundays, every game multichannelled all over NSW and QLD on 7mate, and they have a dedicated Fox Footy channel.

So it seems like they have got a massive unexpected increase AND got absolutely everything they wanted, free, live and national coverage.

This changes everything for us. We need to seriously re-evaluate what is a reasonable deal for the NRL now.

on the face of it, fatman demetriou has earnt the coin he's on and more with this deal.

but there has to be some devil in the detail.

 

[El Diablo]

WTF?

We get more FTA games of boggerball in NSW now than RL, who cares if it's live or delayed.

Could you ever see AFL states having more FTA RL games each week than their code?

No way, they'd burn down the TV stations, so why should we put up with it.

only more now because of anti-siphoning

9 should be able to do the same next year in AFL states but don't count on it as 9 are the worst at showing RL

 

[Goddo]

My post here was too important to be burried in this thread:

If we want to maximise our deal, we MUST expand in PERTH and BRISBANE. Our next expansion after that needs to be looking at Adelaide and Wellington.

We must improve our national footprint, particularily in the OzTam cities. We can then justify pushing for better national coverage and bigger dollars.

To expand in Gosford is a seriously BAD idea for the future health of the game.

This isn't about "bringing back the Bears" or nostalgia. This is about maintaining market share and survival and prosperity of the game as a whole

We must expand in important big markets to improve revenue - That means PERTH, ADELAIDE, BRISBANE, WELLINGTON/CHRISTCHURCH.

All talk of Central Queensland, Central Coast, PNG must stop.

 

[BunniesMan]

on the face of it, fatman demetriou has earnt the coin he's on and more with this deal.

but there has to be some devil in the detail.

7 has 4 live games, Fox has 5 exclusive games AND those 4 aswell. That's where most of the growth comes from. I hope we offer it like that.

And not to forget, we still have no idea from the NRL when, or even if, we'll be getting that 9th game. Expansion teams have to be announced before this deal is done.

 

[El Diablo]

How anyone can justify expanding in Gosford following this deal is beyond me.

exacly

WA and second Brisbane team MUST come in

 

[BunniesMan]

My post here was too important to be burried in this thread:



We must expand in important big markets to improve revenue - That means PERTH, ADELAIDE, BRISBANE, WELLINGTON/CHRISTCHURCH.

All talk of Central Queensland, Central Coast, PNG must stop.

BS. If it was Perth and Adelaide, sure. But Brisbane has it's team, if we're going to expand in 2 foreign markets, sure, go for it. But if 1 team will be a heartland team the Bears are next in line.

Eyeballs on the Central coast and North Sydney are just as valuable as eyeballs in Brisbane.

 

[Goddo]

Oh please. The alternate to the Bears is Brisbane 2. Perth will be in no matter what. If the 2nd slot was between the CC and Adelaide for example, you'd have a point. As long as it's between another nuffy queensland team and the Bears. Bears win.

Your argument that Brisbane 2 isn't better than Central Coast is rediculous.

Brisbane is the 3rd biggest market in Australia, and due for enormous population growth over the next 50 years.

The fact that SE Queensland is the second biggest NRL market and yet only has as many teams as the AFL is ludicrous.

We should be aiming for at least 2 sides in the metro Brisbane area, be it a second Brisbane side, or a fringe/corridor side, such as Sunshine Coast-Redcliffe or Ipswich-Logan area.

This AFL deal is black and white - TV networks value OzTam cities above and beyond regional sides.

 

[Goddo]

BS. If it was Perth and Adelaide, sure. But Brisbane has it's team, if we're going to expand in 2 foreign markets, sure, go for it. But if 1 team will be a heartland team the Bears are next in line.

Eyeballs on the Central coast and North Sydney are just as valuable as eyeballs in Brisbane.

:lol:
Its not about taking a ticket and getting in line - its about maximising Rugby Leagues revenue. The Bears bid is a sound bid, but adds nothing to the game wide revenue.

 

[Goddo]

exacly

WA and second Brisbane team MUST come in

Good to see which side of the line you stand on El.

The next expansion will be a watershed moment for the game:

Perth is a must. No matter what.

expand in Central Coast - conceed big money and national presence forever to the AFL, concentrate on NSW and Qld markets, which will slowly but surely dwindle over time.

expand in Brisbane - make a concerted effort to improve our presence in our second biggest market, and lay the platform to maximise revenue for the game, and further national expansion.

 

[Perth Red]

WOW, that is some deal. pressure is really on Gallop now! Anything less than a $billion and the game is seriously facing an uphill battle! RL has always been too conservative, with a Billion$'s we should and could be planning and financing 4-5 new teams over the next 10 years. We'll be lucky if we get two and if one of them is a real expansion team.

 

[blukablu]

As long as it's between another nuffy queensland team and the Bears. Bears win.

Yeah maybe if you want to rename the league the NSWRL and such stars of Rhys Wesser and John Williams as the face of the game.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Good to see which side of the line you stand on El.

The next expansion will be a watershed moment for the game:

Perth is a must. No matter what.

expand in Central Coast - conceed big money and national presence forever to the AFL, concentrate on NSW and Qld markets, which will slowly but surely dwindle over time.

expand in Brisbane - make a concerted effort to improve our presence in our second biggest market, and lay the platform to maximise revenue for the game, and further national expansion.

Perhaps the most important decision for its future. I still think Reds and CCB, with a cast iron plan for future expansion laid out in Adelaide, BNE II and NZ2

 

[Brutus]

You know what's ironic? If we do keep the status quo in terms of timeslots in the next deal (which isn't unlikely) there will be more live AFL on FTA in NSW and QLD than NRL. Which is simply ridiculous if you think about it.

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The AFL have had more FTA footy in the northern states than NRL for years now.

News LTD part-owning our game has f**ked our code up completely, from a coverage perspective and monetary perspective.

 

[Ray Mosters]

I seriously dont know how much even one more heartland side is going to contribute

I think we should be going big or going home

Perth and Adelaide in 2013. Get their games played live on free to air multichannels in their home cities (along with the Storm games in Melbourne) then wait 2 broadcast agreements to build support then bring the broadcast agreements into line with the rest of the country

Its the only way to genuinely grow. Demetriou knows this

 

[El Diablo]

Gallop has to go imo

seems even the clubs are finally thinking that way too now

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...o-nrls-tv-riches/story-e6frfgbo-1226045238058

There is certainly belief amongst NRL club chairmen that they do not want Gallop to do the deal.

 

[smithie]

If we want to maximise our deal, we MUST expand in PERTH and BRISBANE. Our next expansion after that needs to be looking at Adelaide and Wellington.

We must improve our national footprint, particularily in the OzTam cities. We can then justify pushing for better national coverage and bigger dollars.

To expand in Gosford is a seriously BAD idea for the future health of the game.

This isn't about "bringing back the Bears" or nostalgia. This is about maintaining market share and survival and prosperity of the game as a whole

I completely agree. There is no question now that Perth and Brisbane II must be added to maximise media rights.

The commission will have some very difficult decisions to make now.