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The Walking Dead

Joker's Wild

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There is a book out called "Rise of the Governor". It tells the story of Phil Bradbury (the Governor) in the months leading up to Woodbury. Pretty good read and gives some very interesting insights into why he is the way he is and why Penny is still around.
 

Springs

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It's funny because every episode of season three has been very well received, plus episode four was the best of the series so far.

All he is doing is trolling.
 

Zigwaa

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I've already explained why I still watch the show. If you're not satisfied with that I couldn't give a f**k, mate.

Whilst i don't agree with you, I actually find your rants funny.

I was just wondering whether it was just this show that you were so cynical about or all shows? You must have never watched Prison Break or your head would have exploded.
 

bileduct

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Whilst i don't agree with you, I actually find your rants funny.

I was just wondering whether it was just this show that you were so cynical about or all shows? You must have never watched Prison Break or your head would have exploded.
Hehe, I did watch Prison Break. I thought season 1 was very, very good. As soon as they got out of the prison it all turned to shit. I gave up after the stupid shit with the dude's hand, and then how the most wanted fugitives are just able to wander around, jump on trains, all without disguising themselves and noone notices. That was about midway through season 2.

Heroes was another show like that. It was awesome up until the very last episode of season 1 and then suffered immensely from that point onwards.

The Walking Dead I was very much looking forward to and I enjoyed season 1. Then they changed the showrunner and the writers and put them on that stupid farm for way too long. It is the inconsistencies in this show that bother me the most, and whilst I agree with you that these unbelievable situations are done to create suspense, I think they do it in a way that insults the viewer.

Take, for example, Sophia and Carol. Sophia goes missing and they spend seven episodes looking for her. Carol goes missing and they just immediately presume she is dead even though there's no body. We went from season 1 where turning into a zombie was a process that took several hours to the insta-zombies in season 2 and 3.

At the end of the day I f**king love zombies and that is why I still continue to watch the show. I certainly don't watch it for character development because there is hardly any.
 

bileduct

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One other thing that bothers me is the whole Woodbury thing.

Even Michonne herself, in S03E04, expresses doubt that the walkers could have overrun the National Guardsmen. Yet we've already seen (or heard) that the walkers have overrun the National Guard on the streets of Atlanta, the CDC and Fort Benning.

If the walkers can so easily take out the National Guard then why is Woodbury still standing?
 

Joker's Wild

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Hehe, I did watch Prison Break. I thought season 1 was very, very good. As soon as they got out of the prison it all turned to shit. I gave up after the stupid shit with the dude's hand, and then how the most wanted fugitives are just able to wander around, jump on trains, all without disguising themselves and noone notices. That was about midway through season 2.

Heroes was another show like that. It was awesome up until the very last episode of season 1 and then suffered immensely from that point onwards.

The Walking Dead I was very much looking forward to and I enjoyed season 1. Then they changed the showrunner and the writers and put them on that stupid farm for way too long. It is the inconsistencies in this show that bother me the most, and whilst I agree with you that these unbelievable situations are done to create suspense, I think they do it in a way that insults the viewer.

Take, for example, Sophia and Carol. Sophia goes missing and they spend seven episodes looking for her. Carol goes missing and they just immediately presume she is dead even though there's no body. We went from season 1 where turning into a zombie was a process that took several hours to the insta-zombies in season 2 and 3.

At the end of the day I f**king love zombies and that is why I still continue to watch the show. I certainly don't watch it for character development because there is hardly any.
Im gonna pull you up here dude. Andrea's sister died in the zombie attack on the camp in season 1 and she only took a minute or 2 to come back. Same with the CDC guys wife in the medical video. She dies on the table and in a matter of minutes the virus reanimates her
 

bileduct

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Im gonna pull you up here dude. Andrea's sister died in the zombie attack on the camp in season 1 and she only took a minute or 2 to come back. Same with the CDC guys wife in the medical video. She dies on the table and in a matter of minutes the virus reanimates her
That just isn't true. Andrea's sister dies at the end of S01E04 when it is night time.

She doesn't reanimate until S01E05 when it is broad daylight.
 

bileduct

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f**k you're right, I just watched it again. For some reason I remembered it differently.

As you were
I just rewatched the CDC episode and it takes just over two hours for the dude's wife to turn.

The CDC guy does, however, explain the inconsistency. He says that some people turn as quickly as three minutes and the longest was eight hours.
 

Zigwaa

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Hehe, I did watch Prison Break. I thought season 1 was very, very good. As soon as they got out of the prison it all turned to shit. I gave up after the stupid shit with the dude's hand, and then how the most wanted fugitives are just able to wander around, jump on trains, all without disguising themselves and noone notices. That was about midway through season 2.

Heroes was another show like that. It was awesome up until the very last episode of season 1 and then suffered immensely from that point onwards.

The Walking Dead I was very much looking forward to and I enjoyed season 1. Then they changed the showrunner and the writers and put them on that stupid farm for way too long. It is the inconsistencies in this show that bother me the most, and whilst I agree with you that these unbelievable situations are done to create suspense, I think they do it in a way that insults the viewer.

Take, for example, Sophia and Carol. Sophia goes missing and they spend seven episodes looking for her. Carol goes missing and they just immediately presume she is dead even though there's no body. We went from season 1 where turning into a zombie was a process that took several hours to the insta-zombies in season 2 and 3.

At the end of the day I f**king love zombies and that is why I still continue to watch the show. I certainly don't watch it for character development because there is hardly any.

Fair enough then. Yeah Prison Break got ridiculous, there were so many near misses and bullshit luck even in Season 1 & 2, but from 3 onwards I stopped watching.

Did the "insta-zombies" start because of the fact that everyone became carriers of the virus and re-animated straight after any death rather than because of a zombie bite induced fever which took longer?
 

Zigwaa

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I just rewatched the CDC episode and it takes just over two hours for the dude's wife to turn.

The CDC guy does, however, explain the inconsistency. He says that some people turn as quickly as three minutes and the longest was eight hours.

Oh yeah, this.
 

butchmcdick

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Bile I get what you are trying to say but it isn't a documentry mate its a drama

The governor is one f**ked up merkin

Who you gonna call people ?
 

Eddie Lab

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maybe as people live longer in this world they get more infected and turn quicker when they die.

or another explanation is that the tv show is about zombies. considering most zombie movies make little to no sense and they don't explain anything in the movies, why would they do it in a TV show?

just relax enjoy the blood and stop driving trucks through the plot holes.

again a good episode. the first five episodes this season have been so much better then all of season 2.
 

Springs

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The biggest problem is how zombies overrun the country in the first place. But we already had a big discussion about that.

Anyway, I'm trying to think of characters turning and I can only remember seeing Shane and Amy. The only other ones are the helicopter guys and we have no idea how long it was before Andrea and Michonne found them.

Anyway it was explained in the first season.
 

bileduct

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There has to have been some kind of event that killed off a lot of people first. Otherwise why would people who seem perfectly healthy, such as the two Zombie cops that Rick and Shane encounter when they drive off to dump Randall away from the farm, turn into zombies?

When Shane is inspecting the bodies that they have neatly laid out for seemingly no reason whatsoever he can't find any bites and they end up assuming that they must have been scratched somewhere. Rick, of course, knows better but he's hiding it from the group because he knows that a stunning reveal much later is better for creating drama for a tv show which is more important than the safety of the people he is shacking up with.
 

Springs

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Because they were killed some other way.

Rick didn't say anything because he didn't believe it until Shane turned.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Take, for example, Sophia and Carol. Sophia goes missing and they spend seven episodes looking for her. Carol goes missing and they just immediately presume she is dead even though there's no body. We went from season 1 where turning into a zombie was a process that took several hours to the insta-zombies in season 2 and 3.

It could be argued that these two are related in the sense that their experience with Sophia is the reason they haven't been looking for Carol. a more important question would be where the f**k did Carol go and why has she made no effort to contact them?

I can live with the insta-zombie thing. Several months have passed since the initial "outbreak" and it could have developed/mutated to have a faster effect either through victim exposure prior to death or time spent within the zombie hosts body.
 

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