This year in perspective

[antonius]

Lookig at tonights game v the dogs one thing is obvious, we should never have let Ennis go ( said that when it happened) Mullen is a 5/8th and rhat's it. We made some very ordinary decissions tonight. Dureau played good, scored a try from nothing. All the guys that get wraps every week were average. Telling momant try on half time try to paten, put that down to fasso's missed tackle. I fear for us next year, same side, same people. The signings we have do nothing for me. Ciraldo..... From what I've seen this year ,,, ordinary signing. Tonoght, playing De Giose was a deadset Bloober, he lasted 1 minute. Same with T. (Mullen is a myth, thinks he can kick,(thinks he can)but cant. Seriously Roopy's right.
Mullen average.

 

[Karmawave]

Dureau played good

Are you dead serious?

He killed momentum at key stages, he never threatened the line once, his kicking game was woeful, he tried low % plays at the wrong times of the game that if Rogers had done it he'd be lambasted from pillar to post, and then when the game was still alive he swallowed up a nice handful of Homebush air as the Bulldogs ran by him for the winning try that sealed the game.

Come on Tony, be a bit real. I understand you like the bloke, his try was solid, but he dived on the ball after being committed to not giving up - something you'd expect from everyone that plays professional rugby league.

He is garbage.

 

[Misanthrope]

I agree that Dureau had a lot of brain explosions, but he's a young guy being asked to steer a side of other young guys to victory in a final. Better players than him have made the same kinds of errors.

 

[antonius]

Are you dead serious?

He killed momentum at key stages, he never threatened the line once, his kicking game was woeful, he tried low % plays at the wrong times of the game that if Rogers had done it he'd be lambasted from pillar to post, and then when the game was still alive he swallowed up a nice handful of Homebush air as the Bulldogs ran by him for the winning try that sealed the game.

Come on Tony, be a bit real. I understand you like the bloke, his try was solid, but he dived on the ball after being committed to not giving up - something you'd expect from everyone that plays professional rugby league.

He is garbage.

Scott I'm not going to bother with you. because from my veiw of the game Scotty played good. A lot more of our more popular players were left wanting. Scotty made the the tack;es. and made what plays he was allowed to make. Seriously look at Fassso, Wicks, ands co . Really we dont ave ateam for next year. Dureau went ok givemn what he had to play with. Rogers would bwe no better, Mullen on the other hand was bloody ordinary, In fact I'd sell him.

 

[Jono078]

Perhaps the perspective would be a bit better with a little less consumed alcohol, antonius?

 

[roopy]

We were never going to do much good in the finals with our young and inexperienced side.
I'd have liked to have seen them finish top four, and i think we were good enough to do that - but next year we will be an outside chance at taking the title, and if the team is developed well by Stone, 2011 is a year we can take it out.
This year we were never a title chance.

 

[antonius]

Perhaps the perspective would be a bit better with a little less consumed alcohol, antonius?

Nol alcohol Jono. I get sick of the continuole rubish of Dureau, Rgers is no better. ands some of our avs are ordinary at times. Just Karma singles out Dureau every tim e.

 

[Karmawave]

Mullen didn't have a good game, he was extremely disappointing, but unlike Scott Dureau, he has at least shown at some stages of his NRL career, that he is more than good enough to play at NRL level.

Dureau would be an excellent player to have running the Macquarie Scorpion attack and be there to call on Daniel Holdsworth like when we get very, very desperate.

Any one who rates him above that calibre of player are obviously so blinkered and biased its bordering on insane.

( That's not to say Rogers is the answer either btw ).

Dureau gets singled out because he OFFERS NOTHING.

 

[Apey]

Perhaps the perspective would be a bit better with a little less consumed alcohol, antonius?

:lol:

That's what I was thinking. Let's sell Mullen Tony!

 

[Misanthrope]

( That's not to say Rogers is the answer either btw ).

I'm glad you said that. I'd take a one legged Dureau over a fit Rogers.

 

[roopy]

Mullen needs the same deal as Kidley - he needs to be told to play his own game and not try to be something he is not (a 7)

 

[antonius]

:lol:

That's what I was thinking. Let's sell Mullen Tony!

Not a bad idea Apey, Tell me what Mullen did that was good tongjht

 

[antonius]

I'll say it now Mullen is a dud. I'
i"d rather dureau to be honest. ( Piss off Karma, you have no idea)

 

[Karmawave]

Not a bad idea Apey, Tell me what Mullen did that was good tongjht

Mullen had an ordinary game, but does that mean he isn't a top line footballer?

How ridiculous to suggest we get rid of him.

Too easily you forget his performances that were top shelf.

Like I said, the difference between your infatuation and Mullen, is one of them has shown he is good enough at one time or another.

And the difference between our opinion lies with an unbiased acceptance Tony.

I accept Rogers AND Dureau ( BOTH ) are not good enough for the NRL. Unfortunately, you seem to cling onto the misguided belief that Dureau is actually good enough to continue to lead our team in 7. Its laughable. I know who has no idea. You're embarrassing yourself in here and the fact you haven't had any alcohol is making it worse. At least you'd have an excuse for what you're saying if you'd been drinking.

 

[Misanthrope]

Sorry tony, but I've got to side with karma here. Most sides would love to have Mullen on the books. I can't think of any that would want Dureau.

 

[Hanscholo]

Imo we need some leadership in our halves, and i honestly I am grasping at straws here as to how we get it. Mullen has shown that he isnt a thinker, he is a dangerous runner and throws a nice pass....that is all. Dureau is a nothing footballer, and the reason i say this is because any player than cannot threaten the line with either footwork or speed themselves will never make a good ballplayer. So he is left to kick, and tonight when we REALLY REALLY needed a kicking display he went missing yet again. Rogers is a head case and without smith doing w/e the hell he did to get some good games out of him he will kill us if we keep him.

So what do we do. How can we get somebody into a ball handling position that can settle things down and direct the side, because clearly we dont have the cattle? Do we buy someone? Do we move Gidley to halfback? I dont know but we honestly have a good hardworking side on our hands that can win a comp, but until they get some leadership, and a composed set of hands taking the ball it isnt going to work.

 

[Nuffy]

We show glimpses of development and loads of rubbish.

It still staggers me that we spend 4.5M on our roster. I just don't see a team worth that sort of money. Its not Stones fault, he inherited it, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of refreshing the roster and adding some quality.

At some point the players need to take the next step, if they don't or can't, they need to be moved on.

Stone needs a really frank review of roster and teams performance because for all the rhetoric, they haven't delivered.

Maybe the team can build on this year and be even more competitive next year but I worry that they just don't have the leaders and more importantly, the competitors in the team to take the next step.

 

[Misanthrope]

It still staggers me that we spend 4.5M on our roster. I just don't see a team worth that sort of money. Its not Stones fault, he inherited it, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of refreshing the roster and adding some quality.

I do wonder where it's all going. We've got some talent on the books - but so do the likes of Melbourne, the Dogs, and Brisbane - yet they manage to keep talented juniors, recruit big names, and have an all together talented side.

We seem to manage none of these consistently.

 

[antonius]

Mullen had an ordinary game, but does that mean he isn't a top line footballer?

How ridiculous to suggest we get rid of him.

Too easily you forget his performances that were top shelf.

Like I said, the difference between your infatuation and Mullen, is one of them has shown he is good enough at one time or another.

And the difference between our opinion lies with an unbiased acceptance Tony.

I accept Rogers AND Dureau ( BOTH ) are not good enough for the NRL. Unfortunately, you seem to cling onto the misguided belief that Dureau is actually good enough to continue to lead our team in 7. Its laughable. I know who has no idea. You're embarrassing yourself in here and the fact you haven't had any alcohol is making it worse. At least you'd have an excuse for what you're saying if you'd been drinking.

"ll say it Karma. Piss of Mullen. He aint thst good. Misss tackles, can;'tt spell. Mullen is a myth

 

[Hanscholo]

Mullen is inconsistent, and when things arent going his way he makes bad decisions often. Those things can be fixed, that is why we have a coach. What you cant coach is being able to score a 90m try, which he can do. He needs to learn a hell of a lot tho. What exactly does Johns tell our halves to do? I am wondering more and more, because at times johns petulence with the ball in his hands was legendary, as classy as he was, at times he was way too agressive too.