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Time to scrap Golden Point?

What should the NRL do to Golden Point?


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El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...559598597?sv=6f59d9633d1b4f3ac4129730a7b99175
Golden point has become too valuable to get rid of

The Australian
October 7, 2015 12:00AM
Stuart Honeysett
Sports reporter

The media adviser who worked with the NRL on the previous broadcast rights deal believes that golden point has become too valuable a commodity for the code to consider getting rid of it.

Global Media and Sports managing director, Colin Smith, joined the debate yesterday over the merits of golden point, which was sparked by Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett after the Broncos lost the grand final to North Queensland in the first minute of extra time. It was 16-all after 80 minutes.

Bennett has never been a fan of the concept since it was introduced in 2003 and said it wasn’t the right way to determine a club’s season. He would have preferred to replay the game the following week.

Smith could not put a dollar figure on what golden point was worth to the code but said the excitement at the end of Sunday night’s decider would have been responsible for the gulf in television ratings between the NRL and AFL.

The NRL grand final was the second most watched program all season with a peak audience of 4.48 million for the Nine Network, while the AFL’s decider between Hawthorn and West Coast peaked nationally at 3.99 million for Seven.

“It’s a huge fillip because all of a sudden it’s must-watch television,’’ Smith said.

“It becomes absolutely critical and it not only increases the spike but it also increases the average.

“Quantifying that is more problematic but you would argue that the (number) they were in front of the AFL ... a key driver of that would have been golden point. It’s fantastic for television. It enthrals the fan. I was glued to it. You had to watch it.’’

Bennett was invited to raise his objections to golden point at the next meeting of the competition committee, which determines the rules of the game, but the NRL has said it has no plans to change the current system.

Smith said he would resist any urge to tinker with the concept. Bennett suggested the return of grand final replays, while other proposals have included having extra time followed by golden point, or making it golden try.

He added that while the code could generate additional revenue from staging another grand final in terms of ticket sales, there would be no additional income from Nine, with the broadcast deal locked in for two more years.

It is understood the NRL would oppose the idea of a grand final rematch on the sole basis that thousands of interstate fans had already spent hundreds of dollars to visit Sydney expecting an outcome on Sunday night.

“I think it’s fantastic and differentiates the NRL from the other southern code,’’ Smith said.

“It’s highly valuable because it’s a key differentiator and the fans know there’s going to be a result coming out of it.

“In terms of the Australian sporting calendar, it is totally unique and it gives that special sense there is going to be an outcome, and whoever does it first has got it.’’

The Cowboys continued to celebrate the club’s first premiership in Townsville yesterday amid speculation chairman Laurence Lancini could pay for the players to enjoy a whirlwind trip to Las Vegas as a reward.
 

Rod

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Again his main point is that it is enthralling, but that is because of what is at stake, not because of the actual quality of golden point football.
 

JJ

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Clearly something is needed for playoff games, replays are not feasible. Football has struggled with this too, any form of extra time seems to result in negative football

There is absolutely no need for golden point, or any other tie breaker in the regular season though
 

DiegoNT

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What can't be overlooked is that we've had a whole generation of fans have grown up with golden point and love it. Most people on here are older and probably lean more to be traditionalist, but the younger generation has grown up woth it, love it whether their team wins and loses, and it's one of the things that sets the nrl apart from other sports
 

Ice_Storm

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Clearly something is needed for playoff games, replays are not feasible. Football has struggled with this too, any form of extra time seems to result in negative football

There is absolutely no need for golden point, or any other tie breaker in the regular season though

Agree. There HAS to be a result on GF day. Coming back the following week looses all appeal to everyone.

Not sure whether ORIGIN needs it. Maybe it does. Like you said, regular season GP is dumb in my eyes. A draw is a perfectly acceptable result in season.
 

TheVelourFog

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How can he say gp had anything to do with tv ratings when it only happened because of a try after the siren? Did everyone just flick over to see who won and then stayed to watch?
 

alien

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I was on the Cowboys wagon and as much as I leapt around with excitement when Ben Hunt knocked on, it was a bit anti-climatic because from that moment on, it was almost a given that the Cowboys had won it. I've never been a fan of golden point from day 1 because it has too often brought an exciting content to a predictable outcome.


but if it happened in the 80th minute it would be good enough, so it has to be good enough after the 80th minute

As memorable as the ending to the game was, 20 minutes' extra time could have provided a whole other fascinating story to the decider...

why not make it an extra 40 minutes then, if longer extra time makes it better??? it could be like the never ending story!
 

alien

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exciting ???= a bloke who cant kick a conversion followed by a bloke cant catch?
It was like watching sharks v sharks

it was exciting because it was close and cowboys kept coming, and the broncos kept trying to close the game down, and it looked like they could hang on, but cowboys scored right at the end. the conversion might have missed, but was exciting at the time because noone knew if he would kick it or not. golden point is always exciting.
 

alien

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any form of extra time seems to result in negative football

what's negative about it??? a drop goal is way to score, just like a try. if the scores are locked after 70 mins, you will often see teams attempting to break the dead lock with drop goals, so there's nothing wrong with it after the 80th minute
 

Coleworld

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In hindsight, the GF would have been that much more epic if JT had nailed the conversion on full-time. Think El Masri against the Knights in '02, or O'Connor in the rain in Origin 2 '91- it would have become iconic like that.

I was on the Cowboys wagon and as much as I leapt around with excitement when Ben Hunt knocked on, it was a bit anti-climatic because from that moment on, it was almost a given that the Cowboys had won it. I've never been a fan of golden point from day 1 because it has too often brought an exciting content to a predictable outcome.

Last night I watched a DVD of the '89 Grand Final for the first time ever, and that 20 minutes extra time emphasises the fact (for mine) that the Raiders truly deserved to win. Balmain tried to wind down the clock and it failed. Canberra backed themselves and going into extra time it was obvious they had more enthusiasm and grunt- and they got the win.

Apply it to Sunday night and I would love to have seen if the Broncos could pick themselves up and get back on top- or whether the Cowboys would have carried their 79th minute momentum and proceeded to tighten the coffin screws. Could Uncle Wayne have adapted for this with his finals experience or would JT/ Morgan have blasted away with it? As memorable as the ending to the game was, 20 minutes' extra time could have provided a whole other fascinating story to the decider...

This.

Extra Time would of made the game a war of attrition and made it even more intense. More opportunity for views to tune in a must watch last 20 minutes.

Ben Hunt would of had an opportunity to make up for his mistake.

I dont understand why the NRL wouldnt want to see more Football played after Full-time is tied.

10 minutes Each Way and after Golden Point for SOS & Grand Finals - It adds to the theatre.

Regular Season just have Golden Point with other team having an opportunity to respond just like the NFL and if they fail - game over.


Think Super League 97 between QLD vs NSW and the game that went 100+ minutes

89 Grand Final, Wests vs Easts 2010.
 

expert

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but if it happened in the 80th minute it would be good enough, so it has to be good enough after the 80th minute



why not make it an extra 40 minutes then, if longer extra time makes it better??? it could be like the never ending story!
You not only look and sound like a wise dude your a true lol@$ouffs legend..

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