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Time to shift the dead wood

Whats Doing

Bench
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Its now time to put the cleaners through the playing roster and start afresh. In order of players to go are as follows:

1. Dureau ( now I am sure that will surprise most)
2. Ndaira
3. Ciraldo
4. McDonnell
5. Tolar (still on contract though)
6. Karawana
7. Wes
8. Lulia


Reduced contracts for:
1. Cross
2. Simpson
3. McDougall

Finally, the whole of the coaching staff needs to go including the conditioning staff.
 

murraymob

Coach
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it is okay to suggest moving players on.But you have not named any replacements.Most of your list are low priced players.Try going to a few nsw cup games and finding anyone for the same price and same level you have now.Simple fact newcastle operate with less money
 

Whats Doing

Bench
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it is okay to suggest moving players on.But you have not named any replacements.Most of your list are low priced players.Try going to a few nsw cup games and finding anyone for the same price and same level you have now.Simple fact newcastle operate with less money

There are plenty of low priced players currently playing NRL which are playing far better than these players. Plus we have plenty of spare cash with Houston, Wicks and Vuna.
 

TooheysNew

Coach
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Yeah great... Except we can't sign any.

Come on people, it's great to offer wild suggestions, but at least try to make them realistic solutions.
 

antonius

Coach
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Its now time to put the cleaners through the playing roster and start afresh. In order of players to go are as follows:

1. Dureau ( now I am sure that will surprise most)
2. Ndaira
3. Ciraldo
4. McDonnell
5. Tolar (still on contract though)
6. Karawana
7. Wes
8. Lulia


Reduced contracts for:
1. Cross
2. Simpson
3. McDougall


Finally, the whole of the coaching staff needs to go including the conditioning staff.
I would include Simmo and Doogs, unfortunately I think they are past it. We really need to start with a new Proven coach, someone that will attract players with some quality. Until that happens we are only going to be able to get second rate players here, and lets face it we already have a fine crop of them. I'm now sure Stone was picked because like everything else that we do he was cheap.
 

Joker's Wild

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I think Wes has earned himself a reprieve from that list for now

Otherwise agreed, IF we could find suitable replacements
 

roopy

Referee
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Top 25 next year

1 Gidley
2 Mullen
3 De Gois
4 Paterson
5 Uate
6 McManus
7 Fa'aoso
8 Taia
9 Tuafua
10 Hilder
11 Tui
12 Tolar
13 Sau
14 Rogers

Everyone below that should be on 55k or replaced.
 
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Whats Doing

Bench
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Yeah great... Except we can't sign any.

Come on people, it's great to offer wild suggestions, but at least try to make them realistic solutions.[/QUOTE]

You appoint an experienced NRL coach and better players will come and replace the rabble I have mentioned.

Sticky comes to mind.

Players won't come to Newy to be coached by Stone.
 

Spot On

Coach
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Where to start?? A bloody good coach with the respect of current players in the NRL who may be able to influence some topliners to play under him. Who would that be?? Isn't that the management/admin job to answer????
 

Ronnie Dobbs

Coach
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Yeah great... Except we can't sign any.

Come on people, it's great to offer wild suggestions, but at least try to make them realistic solutions.[/QUOTE]

You appoint an experienced NRL coach and better players will come and replace the rabble I have mentioned.

Sticky comes to mind.

Players won't come to Newy to be coached by Stone.

Because his recruitment at the Sharks has been outstanding? He'll run your joint into the ground.
 

Karmawave

Bench
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I don't profess to know the solutions to all of the Knights problems, however I will offer up a suggestion or 3.

The first and most important thing is understanding we can only worry about things that are in our control. That means while it is a major worry that players are not attracted to Newcastle ( for whatever reasons ), there's very little we can do about the perception of players of the city etc. Sure we can help our own image as far as coaching appointments etc, but there are too many factors stopping players from coming here to focus too heavily on just the coach.

So, that leaves us with THE most important thing we CAN control - and it needs fixing badly.

Our junior development system.

We have one of the largest footballing nurseries anywhere. And it seems to have gone to sh*t.

Get things right in our own backyard, start developing stars of tomorrow the way we always have in the past, and recruiting from outside the area becomes less important. Instead of chasing a Mark Gasnier, we need to be doing more to develop our own.

Over the years this region has produced superstars in this game, and can continue to do so.

Polynesian recruiting needs to continue, but MUST be limited to only those polynesian players who are FOOTBALLERS. Thats right, footballers, not just athletes with the perfect size and build.

It's a worrying trend that has infiltrated our junior development in Newcastle. Sure there are some very talented polynesians in the NRL, but the vast majority of true superstars both now and in the past are not polynesians.

We must learn that size and strength and perfect builds does not make a good footballer.

We have to focus on the nursery that is our junior system and make sure the best players grow as footballers and go onto become the future first graders here at the Knights.

There is some light at the end of the tunnel. There are a few players with good futures, but we need to be doing more at junior level.

Improving our professionalism and judgement at junior level, and replenishing our first grade side with future young stars from our own backyard is one solution to our issues.

Then, worrying about signing superstars from elsewhere ( which is currently a pipe dream ) becomes null and void.

Our biggest worry needs to go back to trying to work out how to keep other clubs away from all our talented juniors, as opposed to dreaming for the unattainable stars from other clubs as we are now.
 
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League_God

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1.Macdougall
2.Dureau
3.Ciraldo
4.Simpson
5.Tolar
6.Mcdonell

a month ago i would of had wes and lulia on that list.
on current form i would pick lulia over sau, mcmanus, doogs, mcdonell basically our entire backline apart from uate and gids.

i think i am actually a lulia fan....weird
 
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I don't profess to know the solutions to all of the Knights problems, however I will offer up a suggestion or 3.

The first and most important thing is understanding we can only worry about things that are in our control. That means while it is a major worry that players are not attracted to Newcastle ( for whatever reasons ), there's very little we can do about the perception of players of the city etc. Sure we can help our own image as far as coaching appointments etc, but there are too many factors stopping players from coming here to focus too heavily on just the coach.

So, that leaves us with THE most important thing we CAN control - and it needs fixing badly.

Our junior development system.

We have one of the largest footballing nurseries anywhere. And it seems to have gone to sh*t.

Get things right in our own backyard, start developing stars of tomorrow the way we always have in the past, and recruiting from outside the area becomes less important. Instead of chasing a Mark Gasnier, we need to be doing more to develop our own.

Over the years this region has produced superstars in this game, and can continue to do so.

Polynesian recruiting needs to continue, but MUST be limited to only those polynesian players who are FOOTBALLERS. Thats right, footballers, not just athletes with the perfect size and build.

It's a worrying trend that has infiltrated our junior development in Newcastle. Sure there are some very talented polynesians in the NRL, but the vast majority of true superstars both now and in the past are not polynesians.

We must learn that size and strength and perfect builds does not make a good footballer.

We have to focus on the nursery that is our junior system and make sure the best players grow as footballers and go onto become the future first graders here at the Knights.

There is some light at the end of the tunnel. There are a few players with good futures, but we need to be doing more at junior level.

Improving our professionalism and judgement at junior level, and replenishing our first grade side with future young stars from our own backyard is one solution to our issues.

Then, worrying about signing superstars from elsewhere ( which is currently a pipe dream ) becomes null and void.

Our biggest worry needs to go back to trying to work out how to keep other clubs away from all our talented juniors, as opposed to dreaming for the unattainable stars from other clubs as we are now.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Out of interest Karma... who do you consider to be our players with good futures?
 

Karmawave

Bench
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:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Out of interest Karma... who do you consider to be our players with good futures?

Definitely Ethan Cook. Could be playing first grade right now in my opinion.

Jake Finn. Love his effort, just a bit worried about his height. Could fill out to be a Paul Gallen/Greg Eastwood shape though possibly? Reminds me of a young Greg Eastwood ( a player I rated highly )

Mata Utia boys have futures, though I worry about their mental approach to being successful. Pete seems to be going through the motions this year...

Tyrone Roberts COULD be good. Too early to say. Without knowing the guy though, his game comes across as being a bit ' I'm the hero here '... If he ends up ' team first ' he is certainly a better option right now than Dureau. He sure wouldn't have went worse yesterday.

There's others too , but the top 2 stand out for me.

Especially Cook.
 
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Its now time to put the cleaners through the playing roster and start afresh. In order of players to go are as follows:

1. Dureau ( now I am sure that will surprise most)
2. Ndaira
3. Ciraldo
4. McDonnell
5. Tolar (still on contract though)
6. Karawana
7. Wes
8. Lulia


Reduced contracts for:
1. Cross
2. Simpson
3. McDougall

Finally, the whole of the coaching staff needs to go including the conditioning staff.

Maddog would be my 2nd on the chopping bloke after Dureau, the injuries real or not are bad enough but these days he doesnt seem to give a f**k even when on the field.

Simmo - $100k per year tops and I still reckon thats overpaying him.
 
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Good thread but i couldn't tell you what our solutions are. We need to adopt the broncos approach of blooding youngsters and hope it works. The NYC kids should really get a push from now on. If the managment can't see the blessing in disguise our season being over is then they are clearly incompetent. The Centurians would probably win a few as well. Beau Henry directing the young fellas across the park in 2011 could be very intriguing. Throw in Inglis (wishing!) and we could go very well.
 
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