The interesting there here is not really what happened to Toby but how the forum has reacted.
Toby made an offhand comment which was meant to be taken lightly, humorously. Regardless of that, it should not have been said in this context. I agree that Toby seem like a decent, woman-focused fella; I heard the Chadcast; he respects the women in his life. It does seem disproportionate, the response by the NRL. I get that. That, to me, is a corporate response to a social problem; it's going to be inexact. Again, IMO, they need to do this, but it was heavy-handed. They could have back channelled it, but alas, its the front page.
The game has a problem with the objectification of women as objects for pleasure, AS DOES SOCIETY. And here in our microcosm, the forum, we have a society playing it out in real-time. Women are angry, and rightfully so. Speak to your partner, daughter, mother or neighbour. 1 in 6 women are sexually assaulted in their lives:" These figures rose to 1 in 6 women (17%, or 1.6 million) and 1 in 25 men (4.3%, or 385,000) when any sexual assault since the age of 15 was considered":Source 2020 Australian Institute of Health ad Welfare..find it here.
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary.
Have a read and then construct an argument as to why things don't need to change. A DECENT ARGUMENT THAT DOESNT INCLUDE...WOKE...CANCEL. LEFT WING.Try being a human..or dare I say, a real man.
Yes, the response seems over the top, and ghoti comes in with a pretty decent counter opinion, and most of you shout him down for being too woke..or virtue signalling FFS. IF things are going to change, and change they must, then individual men need to change. I have mistreated women and objectified them a lot through my youth, often using them for mutual pleasure. Yes, women can enjoy casual, or partnered or whatever sex. Yes, they do talk about random hookups and the like. YAY!! But if the statistics are true and I would be willing to wager they are underreported, men on here, IN THIS FORUM OR MEN YOU KNOW, have caused some damage, we may not like it, but it has to be true. Think about it. Question your own behaviours and motives. Why pile on ghotti and claim "cancel culture".That's is as helpful as cancel culture itself. The truth will always lie in the middle. Go and speak to your wife/mother or daughter about it. about it. Why don't you tell them that not all men? or that all this talk about equality sounds like virtue signalling. Even better walk down the street with them and wolf whilst other women.
In this case of Toby, I don't think nor do really any of you think has was speaking facts. We all know that. But language matters. In the same week, thousands of women and some were marched to protest against sexual bias and assault. In the same week that Grace Tame gave her speech at the national press club. Take the time to watch it.
Watch that, then construct an argument as to why our sexual culture doesn't need to change. People will say, that's pedos, or I'm not like that. Well great, I f**king hope not. It starts with a conversation amongst men about how we treat women as receptacles for our cocks, not as equals with an emotional world, imagination and dreams, and desires like consensual, sometimes hot, sometimes anonymous sex. This is why the Toby comment needs to be held up. It's just insensitive in an angry climate. Look at the history fo the game regarding women, and as we all know, that is just a representation of how much of society is.
How the majority of this forum responded is way more shocking
So the comment has come out at the same time that the highest legal officer in the country had to defend an alleged rape. In the same month that 1000s of schoolgirls reported historical assault. At the same time as an alleged rape in the highest offices, yet you claim cancel culture. Grow up, forum men. If you give a shit, everyone should watch the Grace Tame speech, its thirty minutes of your life that should open your eyes. Everyone in politics talks f**king bullshit; this woman speaks the truth. In my circle of 6 male friends. 3 have been sexually abused. It happens to both men and women, but what I am trying to highlight is that the way we as individuals think about sex and women as objects, and the commodification of women through advertising and how men and women are raised on porn It needs to change.
Humour is good, and we need to laugh at all of it cause the world is f**king absurd. But at least be open to change, have a think next time you pile on to sexual innuendo or stare at a woman, or beat off to porn. It is not all men, but all men and some women need to evaluate how we respond to this. It's not going away, and nor should it.
Yeah, I'm a "progressive", a father of a daughter and a husband, and yeah, I have f**ked up all of those things, over time, due to the relentless pursuit of my seemingly one great need..sex. But it has and continues to change. I suggest you do the same, or at least if you don't give a fugg, out yourself to the women in your life. Give them the respect of being honest that you think all of this anger is "virtue signalling" and "woke bullshit". Yeah, it can "go too far" but ill tell you the truth, assault is way too far.
Question your self, or at the least tell the women close to you that you don't give a f**k about it and see how they respond. Have some integrity.
