Todd Greenberg has got to go!

[Perth Red]

Like running on the spot and going nowhere?

Was thinking more bending over to take it from the Rlpa, clubs and news Ltd,suppleness could be a useful skill for the job.

 

[Timmah]

Absolutely nothing measurable or target specific, it’s incredibly light on compared to the 13-17 strat plan. When you define your targets as “increase” or “improve” it tells you nothing.. of course they want to see growth but by how much and in what way? Look at the priority of increasing player registrations, it’s pss weak. What we’ve got here is an infographic, not a strat plan that gives us a picture of where the nrl would like the game to be by 2023 and how it’s going to get there. Ffs half of it was already achieved by the time thy put it out!
Despite the last strat plan failing to deliver its targets at least Smith had a vision of where he wanted the Game to grow to and the balls to put it out there.

I already explained how they would've been framing this so I don't know how I can help you understand more. The strategic plan contains broad based objectives, defined targets would form part of yearly business planning rather than pie-in-the-sky numbers as appeared in the '13-'17 plan.

You seem difficult to please, you were upset at them not meeting aspirational targets that weren't really realistic, and now you're upset they haven't set aspirational targets.

 

[Perth Red]

I already explained how they would've been framing this so I don't know how I can help you understand more. The strategic plan contains broad based objectives, defined targets would form part of yearly business planning rather than pie-in-the-sky numbers as appeared in the '13-'17 plan.

You seem difficult to please, you were upset at them not meeting aspirational targets that weren't really realistic, and now you're upset they haven't set aspirational targets.

They haven’t set any targets, aspirational, realistic or conservative! So they want to have more people playing the game, possibly expansion or not, a women’s league (which was already in place) better stadiums (which was already in place) expand the state cups (plans already in place). Must have taken them many weeks to come up with this info graphic! Let’s hope there is business plans behind each measurement.

Nothing about attendance, tv audiences, finances. It is going to be impossible to measure their performance against this “plan”, I suspect that is the crux of it.

 

[Timmah]

They haven’t set any targets, aspirational, realistic or conservative! So they want to have more people playing the game, possibly expansion or not, a women’s league (which was already in place) better stadiums (which was already in place) expand the state cups (plans already in place). Must have taken them many weeks to come up with this info graphic! Let’s hope there is business plans behind each measurement.

Nothing about attendance, tv audiences, finances. It is going to be impossible to measure their performance against this “plan”, I suspect that is the crux of it.

A lot of major organisations approach Strategic plans with broad objectives these days. I presume this is to safeguard against changing landscapes etc, particularly with elite sport when it comes to media.

 

[Exsilium]

They haven’t set any targets, aspirational, realistic or conservative! So they want to have more people playing the game, possibly expansion or not, a women’s league (which was already in place) better stadiums (which was already in place) expand the state cups (plans already in place). Must have taken them many weeks to come up with this info graphic! Let’s hope there is business plans behind each measurement.

Nothing about attendance, tv audiences, finances. It is going to be impossible to measure their performance against this “plan”, I suspect that is the crux of it.

The NRL have an exemplary track record when it comes to deflecting from the real issues of the game. They’ve mastered the art of spin and deliver bullshit in spades

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Nothing about attendance, tv audiences, finances. It is going to be impossible to measure their performance against this “plan”, I suspect that is the crux of it.

Impossible.... c’mon PR don’t be stupid. You have this forum and previous yr stats to get a gauge. You like numbers.... it wouldnt be that hard to work it out.

I also believe that the Nrl should be very strategic in what they make public. I like the fact that they are generally transparent but telling the Afl everything would be suicide.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

I’m more interested in what punishment the Rlpa and players in general should get. They wanted to be genuine partners in the game. They got it and still have dragged the game threw the mud.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

When a guy comes into the top job of the nrl with a statement like “I’m not really a visionary” it’s clear what we were getting! He’s not been terrible, hasn’t made too many screw ups but hasn’t really done much of note either. “Steady Todd” is what history will show him as I suspect.

I do think it’s a major failing by him and the commission not to have a decent strat plan for its stakeholders to see though. It either shows them unclear what their goals are for next few years or shows them as insecure that they can achieve what they set and don’t want to be held accountable to targets, either way it’s a poor look for a public facing organisation.

Yet when John Ribot declares that he HAD a "vision", it is the word people use to ridicule him...

I think its impossible to really gage someones capacity purely on the press conferences (Plenty of great workers cannot speak, and plenty of great speakers are morons).

The one positive i can really see in Todd's approach is that the clubs might relax their guard if they think he is going Conservative. DSmith came in talking about all the changes he wanted and everyone with an agenda tensed up and drove him out.

Maybe the inside man is what we need to break the stranglehold of the clubs....

 

[Spot On]

I’m more interested in what punishment the Rlpa and players in general should get. They wanted to be genuine partners in the game. They got it and still have dragged the game threw the mud.

Certainly we do not hear from the RLPA boss much when all the players continually make headlines for the wrong reasons.

More than happy for their % of revenue to be reduced in some way after this ridiculous off season of woe.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

They haven’t set any targets, aspirational, realistic or conservative! So they want to have more people playing the game, possibly expansion or not, a women’s league (which was already in place) better stadiums (which was already in place) expand the state cups (plans already in place). Must have taken them many weeks to come up with this info graphic! Let’s hope there is business plans behind each measurement.

Nothing about attendance, tv audiences, finances. It is going to be impossible to measure their performance against this “plan”, I suspect that is the crux of it.

Just because they dont release shit to the world doesnt mean it doesnt exist...

As for measuring their performance, why would they incourage that? They are an non-profit entertainment company, with no shareholders. I reckon this is mostly meant as an initial presentation for sponsors, governments and local organisations. I dont see why most fans would care and, for the few of us who do, i dont see why they ARLC is obliged to tell us.

If you want to see their actual plans, apply for a job there or buy a club. Short of that, i dont see much grounds for your complaints.

 

[Timmah]

Yet when John Ribot declares that he HAD a "vision", it is the word people use to ridicule him...

I think its impossible to really gage someones capacity purely on the press conferences (Plenty of great workers cannot speak, and plenty of great speakers are morons).

The one positive i can really see in Todd's approach is that the clubs might relax their guard if they think he is going Conservative. DSmith came in talking about all the changes he wanted and everyone with an agenda tensed up and drove him out.

Maybe the inside man is what we need to break the stranglehold of the clubs....

The thing that amuses me most is that we could just put this thread title on repeat for any CEO in the future as we have in the past. No CEO is ever favoured by fans

 

[madunit]

The thing that amuses me most is that we could just put this thread title on repeat for any CEO in the future as we have in the past. No CEO is ever favoured by fans

And that is largely because so many fans eat up the horseshit agendas shit out by mainstream media.

They all bitch about the NRL, the refs, the bunker but they NEVER offer solutions or alternatives. They just shit everywhere.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

And that is largely because so many fans eat up the horseshit agendas shit out by mainstream media.

They are bitch about the NRL, the refs, the bunker but they NEVER offer solutions or alternatives. They just shit everywhere.

Actually they do offer solutions, usually just shitty one...

And when the game DOES take on the changes and they inevitably go bad, the Media doesnt take any responsibility. They just have another thing to complain about.

"The game is too slow. Speed it up!!!" > "the PTB is too fast, too much dumyhalf running. Slow it down!!!
"Too many penalties. Be lenient and let the game flow!!!" > "Players get away with too much. Crack down on the rules!!!"
"Video Ref takes too long. On-field ref should trust his gut!!!" > "On-field ref gets too many things wrong. Video Ref should have seen it!!!"

When people want to bitch, they will always find something to bitch about. It is impossible to please them, because they dont want to be happy...

 

[AJB1102]

Certainly we do not hear from the RLPA boss much when all the players continually make headlines for the wrong reasons.

More than happy for their % of revenue to be reduced in some way after this ridiculous off season of woe.

Yeah where is AFL twat Pendergrast and all the players with their RLPA caps now denouncing this shit show of an off season?

Giving these merkins a share to be partners in the game is like giving a monkey a rifle and expecting it to be a reliable partner in a gun fight.

 

[Last Week]

This thread has Corey Norman levels of childish.

 

[Stormwarrior82]

Apparently the clubs and the players are the only ones that make the Nrl tick. But when problems arise it Todd’s fault. Wonder if the clubs and players will ever be held accountable?

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Does Todd get credit for this?

NRL teams to play trial matches in Pacific nations
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/18/nrl-teams-to-play-trial-matches-in-pacific-nations/

Funded by the AusGov's DFAT development fund too!!!

Or do we think this just came from no where and NRL was lucky enough to get the cash ahead of the other sports?

 

[El Diablo]

Or do we think this just came from no where and NRL was lucky enough to get the cash ahead of the other sports?

yup

 

[El Diablo]

 

[Cactus]

They’ve mastered the art of spin and deliver bullshit in spades

Well, I for one applaud them for delivering bullsh!t in spades. Way better than in doggie bags or god forbid delivered by the handfull.