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Todd Greenberg has got to go!

Are you happy with Greenberg's performance as CEO?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 5.9%
  • No

    Votes: 86 85.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 9 8.9%

  • Total voters
    101

Vee

First Grade
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wtf do Todd and Smith have to do with this?

especially Smith
Presumably, the work was done by one of Todd's subordinates while he was CEO. The position of NRL Head of Government and Community Relations was created by Smith while he was in charge. Before that, NRL government lobbying was on a very ad-hoc basis.
 

Tiger5150

Bench
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I get that shitting on the current CEO is sport for people on this forum but try to think critically for even half a second. Your point was proven at all because you obviously did no research.

Because I have to spell it out, here is the chronology of Todd's experience dating back to the 90's that I was able to locate fairly easily via a google search:

93-98: Event & Promotions Manager @ CNSW
98-01: Operations & Events Manager @ Bulldogs
01-08: General Manager @ Stadium Australia
08-13: Bulldogs CEO
13-16: NRL Head of Football
16-now: NRL CEO

I could be wrong, but between 2001 and 2008 while he was GM, Stadium Australia hosted a number of fairly memorable events (RWC 2003, Socceroos WCQ 2005 instantly come to mind, not to mention the 2004 GF of course), signed two naming rights deals, bought the Bulldogs back as a home team after a short-term move to the Showground, had Souths relocate from the SFS to the venue under a long-term deal, and even had the Wests Tigers as a home team for a few years there as well.

His work as Bulldogs CEO in the first couple of years generally goes unquestioned - the club was a shambles, had just lost most of the '04 premiership squad, Folkes as coach, finished with the spoon in 2008 and were losing sponsors left, right & centre. His early tenure saw that turn around almost immediately with a 2nd place finish in 2009, a whole bunch of sponsors coming on board and some astute signings.

I don't understand where you got "cushy job at Stadium Aus because of his Bulldogs ties then straight into running the NRL" when he was Bulldogs CEO and NRL Head of Football prior to becoming the NRL CEO. Two roles and eight years separate those two items.

Despite all that I'm actually not sure he's the best man for the job, but to suggest he doesn't have experience in running large organisations effectively is laughable.

Please point out to me where in that history of employment prior to CEO of NRL is ANY experience in running a large organisation effectively.

For an example, the guy he replaced David Smith was head of Bank of Scotland Treasury Australia (later part of Lloyds International Pty Ltd.[2] He was Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of Lloyds International Pty Ltd. (formerly known as HBOS Australia Pty Ltd), a subsidiary of Lloyds Banking Group from March 2009 to November 2012.[2] As CEO, Smith had responsibility for 10 countries, 1500 staff and managing assets of $A50 billion.
 

madunit

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Please point out to me where in that history of employment prior to CEO of NRL is ANY experience in running a large organisation effectively.

For an example, the guy he replaced David Smith was head of Bank of Scotland Treasury Australia (later part of Lloyds International Pty Ltd.[2] He was Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of Lloyds International Pty Ltd. (formerly known as HBOS Australia Pty Ltd), a subsidiary of Lloyds Banking Group from March 2009 to November 2012.[2] As CEO, Smith had responsibility for 10 countries, 1500 staff and managing assets of $A50 billion.
Since when is prior CEO experience a prerequisite?

How much CEO work had Ken Arthurson had prior to running the NSWRL?

Some people are blindly lead about by whatever Buzz and co whinge about and take their agenda driven bullshit as gospel.

Greenberg isn't perfect but he's better than that News Limited hack we had that's now running the Soccer.
 

Tiger5150

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Since when is prior CEO experience a prerequisite?

How much CEO work had Ken Arthurson had prior to running the NSWRL?

Some people are blindly lead about by whatever Buzz and co whinge about and take their agenda driven bullshit as gospel.

Greenberg isn't perfect but he's better than that News Limited hack we had that's now running the Soccer.

Are you serious Madunit?

Since when, when we are investigating possible candidates for the top job for the NRL should we make sufficient experience in the role a pre-requisite? I would have thought that would have been the first box needed to be ticked. When considering someone for the role, surely the most important way to find out if someone is up to the job is if they have done the job before and done it well?

For this is the problem with Greenberg. When the CEO role became available, the NRL for some reason (you can guess the reasons) didnt go to the marketplace to find the best candidate, they went internally and appointed the guy with insufficient experience and credentials. As a result his performance will always be under scrutiny and for mine he doesnt measure up. For mine he is all talk. The NRL is not in a healthy place.
 

Valheru

Coach
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Are you serious Madunit?

Since when, when we are investigating possible candidates for the top job for the NRL should we make sufficient experience in the role a pre-requisite? I would have thought that would have been the first box needed to be ticked. When considering someone for the role, surely the most important way to find out if someone is up to the job is if they have done the job before and done it well?

For this is the problem with Greenberg. When the CEO role became available, the NRL for some reason (you can guess the reasons) didnt go to the marketplace to find the best candidate, they went internally and appointed the guy with insufficient experience and credentials. As a result his performance will always be under scrutiny and for mine he doesnt measure up. For mine he is all talk. The NRL is not in a healthy place.

I'm no greenberg defender but every CEO has to have a first role as CEO at some point.
 

madunit

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Are you serious Madunit?

Since when, when we are investigating possible candidates for the top job for the NRL should we make sufficient experience in the role a pre-requisite? I would have thought that would have been the first box needed to be ticked. When considering someone for the role, surely the most important way to find out if someone is up to the job is if they have done the job before and done it well?

For this is the problem with Greenberg. When the CEO role became available, the NRL for some reason (you can guess the reasons) didnt go to the marketplace to find the best candidate, they went internally and appointed the guy with insufficient experience and credentials. As a result his performance will always be under scrutiny and for mine he doesnt measure up. For mine he is all talk. The NRL is not in a healthy place.
Who do you hire as a CEO when all the experienced CEO's have died out, given they are the only ones who you believe deserve to be appointed.

Your response proves, undoubtedly, that you have zero idea about how business is run, therefore, having any further debate with you on this matter would be like trying to teach algebra to a blind and tone deaf house brick.
 

Perth Red

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I'm no greenberg defender but every CEO has to have a first role as CEO at some point.

True but it’s not usually as the head of a $400mill a year very complex public organisation with huge conflicting stakeholders. Running nrl, or afl for that matter, must be one of the most challenging ceo positions in the country! Not the sort of place to cut your teeth I wouldnt
have thought.
 

Spot On

Coach
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AFL bosses don't seem to have too much trouble growing their game.

Meanwhile ... rent a crowd at most NRL grounds.

Todd, with his experience as CEO of the puppy dogs will fix it soon.

That experience as an Events and Promotions manager has certainly made for a 'better game day experience' for fans.

How bout swallowing the RLPA's 'Partners in the game' spin - hook, line and sinker -only to have to turn the news on to see another partner in the game up on charges this off season.

Well played CEO.
 
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Timmah

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True but it’s not usually as the head of a $400mill a year very complex public organisation with huge conflicting stakeholders. Running nrl, or afl for that matter, must be one of the most challenging ceo positions in the country! Not the sort of place to cut your teeth I wouldnt
have thought.
He was literally the CEO of one of the biggest clubs in the game for six years, then spent three years in a senior position.

Exactly how was he cutting his teeth? Have people wiped their memories or something?
 

Timmah

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AFL bosses don't seem to have too much trouble growing their game.

Meanwhile ... rent a crowd at most NRL grounds.

Todd, with his experience as CEO of the puppy dogs will fix it soon.

That experience as an Events and Promotions manager has certainly made for a 'better game day experience' for fans.

How bout swallowing the RLPA's 'Partners in the game' spin - hook, line and sinker -only to have to turn the news on to see another partner in the game up on charges this off season.

Well played CEO.
Copy and paste for the last 5 and the next 10 CEO's #snore
 

madunit

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True but it’s not usually as the head of a $400mill a year very complex public organisation with huge conflicting stakeholders. Running nrl, or afl for that matter, must be one of the most challenging ceo positions in the country! Not the sort of place to cut your teeth I wouldnt
have thought.
It was okay for Arko for over a decade.
 

Spot On

Coach
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Nah, just a handful of people like perpetual outrage and clowns in the media are more than happy to stoke that.

... true RL people are not influenced by that dribble and have already formed an opinion on Greenburg mate ... long ago.

That little tale has grown old.

Surely you can come up with something better than that to defend Todd now.

Snore.
 

Timmah

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... true RL people are not influenced by that dribble and have already formed an opinion on Greenburg mate ... long ago.

That little tale has grown old.

Surely you can come up with something better than that to defend Todd now.

Snore.
Its not about defending Todd or not, he's made plenty of mistakes like every other CEO of every major sporting organisation has.

Just a bit over the same old bullshit of attacking the current CEO. Whittaker Moffat Gallop Smith now Greenberg, it's the same shit every time. No informed debate, just crusades against the bloke in charge every time.

So yes, snore.
 

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