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Tottenham Hotspur: "To Dare Is To Do" II

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training run, JD with another brace, holtby dominant (in the bits i watched anyway)
 

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we just keep going atm

9 games, 20 goals, 8 clean sheets and still only 1 goal conceded

tbf that wasn't Villa's best team but wasn't our strongest either, nice to see Chiriches get his first run and he looked good once he settled

Holtby just keeps getting better and better and better
 

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and we cant forget this

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Helmet Man

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I dont think there was a "quick board meeting" to sort out Bale. There was a reason why Bale was so quiet in the media. Like right now he has been pretty open in the media.

He said he wanted to always come to Madrid. It was just a lengthy process for Levy to go through as he had to weigh up the pros and cons and decide where the money should be spent.
 

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lol

you know how our club works do you ?

there must be a majority decision before a player of Bale's value can be sold, thats how Sours work

the reason he was quiet was that while he was still contracted to Spurs he was not available to speak to the press while negotiations were in progress
 

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lol

you know how our club works do you ?

there must be a majority decision before a player of Bale's value can be sold, thats how Sours work

the reason he was quiet was that while he was still contracted to Spurs he was not available to speak to the press while negotiations were in progress

Didn't you and Boxhead argue the fact that Bale wouldn't leave?

Look how that turned out. :lol:

So i guess i know how your club works better than you do.

Being contracted to a club doesn't mean you can't say anything in the media abt your future. Do you remember the comments Suarez made about wanting to play for Real Madrid?
 

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Didn't you and Boxhead argue the fact that Bale wouldn't leave?

I dont recall anyone saying he wouldn't leave,

what I said was that there was no offer at the time from RM and there wasn't till 7days before the window shut


Look how that turned out. :lol:

yeh, exactly as I described it before the news broke, and I mean the real news, not the gutter journalism that make shit up

I suggest you read back and check the transfer rumours thread, its all there

So i guess i know how your club works better than you do.

in your dreams princess

Being contracted to a club doesn't mean you can't say anything in the media abt your future. Do you remember the comments Suarez made about wanting to play for Real Madrid?

I dont recall that scum ever playing for Spurs and dont compare him to Bale who was a consummate professional through all this.

Whether you like it or not or whether you agree or not, the fact is he was gagged by the club and he honoured that
 

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Didn't you and Boxhead argue the fact that Bale wouldn't leave?

Look how that turned out. :lol:

So i guess i know how your club works better than you do.

Being contracted to a club doesn't mean you can't say anything in the media abt your future. Do you remember the comments Suarez made about wanting to play for Real Madrid?

And at the time, he wasn't going to leave, because Madrid had yet to make a decent offer and the club didn't want to sell. So no, Twiz and I were right all along.
 

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Yes you and Twizz were right the whole time and I was wrong the whole time.

f**k logic.

Says the guy who wants to play Gareth Bale at striker :lol:

Accept it. You believed the media bullsh*t that Bale was unhappy and kept working yourself up about it, and Twiz and I kept informing you that the media never had it right to start with. You claimed to know how Spurs were working and what was going on Bale's mind, but you never had a clue. That was why I enjoyed all that time trolling your a** off.
 

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Says the guy who wants to play Gareth Bale at striker :lol:

Accept it. You believed the media bullsh*t that Bale was unhappy and kept working yourself up about it, and Twiz and I kept informing you that the media never had it right to start with. You claimed to know how Spurs were working and what was going on Bale's mind, but you never had a clue. That was why I enjoyed all that time trolling your a** off.

So you think my suggestion of playing Bale as striker is a dumb one? I guess i'm not the only one thinking its a stupid idea.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bale-most-effective-striker-says-150800358--sow.html

Ur saying I believed the media bullshit abt Bale being unhappy? Well i didn't say he was 'unhappy'. I've said he wanted to play for Real Madrid the whole time but Levy/AVB didn't want him to let go.

You said Bale didn't want to leave because of the upgrade in his wages and some other stuff about how his family had settled down. You also said the Gareth Bale transfer just simply could not happen because he is on the cover of FIFA14 in a Spurs jersey. :lol:

And btw the media 'bullshit' you are refering to was right the whole time. Funny how you are saying the media had it wrong the whole time because Bale always wanted to play for Madrid when he was a kid. Bale confirmed this himself.

Its funny how you were totally wrong from the start yet you are trying to make me think that you were right from the start.

It is a great dream for me to play for Real Madrid

It’s been difficult, but I’m here now. It’s been a very nervous situation, but it’s a dream come true

I would have come here for a penny. I just wanted to be here and in a white shirt

It’s as much pressure as I put on myself. I wanted to come here and play the best football and I’m going to give 100 per cent and try to help the team to win things

I’ve always followed Spanish football, it’s an amazing league. I had the [Madrid] shirt when I was nine years old

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/english/gareth-bale-i-d-have-come-to-madrid-for-a-penny-1-3072493

AVB also said he was pressured into selling Bale as Bale really did want to leave for Madrid.

Obviously it was Bale's dream to play for Madrid. When did i ever say Bale was "unhappy" at Tottenham? Don't feel me bullshit that i have never said.

This is what you said.

What the hell are you smoking? Bale isn't leaving.

This is what i said initially about Bale.

Look Bale has not uttered a single word about his future or where he wants to go. If he thinks or at least wanted to stay at Tottenham then he would have least said it pubicly at least once. All i can say is actions speak louder than words. AVB is desperate to keep Bale but Bale wants to play in the Champion League. He wants to play for Real Madrid. Marca can make as many false quotes as they like but they have been right in the past about reporting Modric to Madrid and also about Kaka leaving A.C Milan for Madrid.

When did i say Bale was unhappy? :?

When did i ever say i knew how the Spurs worked? Make stop making bullshit up on the spot.

This is what you said.

Let's see, people who have actually been confirmed to either work for the club or know people who do work for the club, anyone with common sense, or anyone with half a brain, as well as the man himself. He has repeatedly told the club, his family and even publicly said (in articles buried by the media, of course) he wants to stay on another year at the very least.

Good one bro.

There is no pattern to Bale, as he has said he doesn't want to leave. Are you incapable of understanding this? No, of course not

Except he doesn't want to leave, as it would seriously unsettle his family, he already earns a sh*t load from his upgraded contract, as well as several major sponsorship deals he has just earned. I don't remember the details, but people who do know the ins and outs explained it very well; the reality is, Madrid can offer him as much as they want, but he is still probably earning more at Spurs than he would in Spain. Why? He's the new face of the Barclays Premier League. Let that sink in for a moment. There are clauses and crap written into his new contract that basically mean he will earn shed loads so long as he stays in the Premier League. Heck, he is playing for a top club in the highest rated/watched league in the world. He's loyal to the club and wants to achieve UCL qualification with them. The reasons for him wanting to stay far outweigh those for wanting to leave, and you have only proven that you don't know jack sh*t by ignoring them.

It doesn't appeal to him obviously, because he is about to sign a contract extension. If Madrid's offer was so appealing, why hasn't he publicly said he is considering it, and has told private sources that he wants to stay? Why did he sign a lucrative contract offer? Bale might be interested in Real Madrid, but he wants to stay here, particularly as he is already satisfied money wise and, as has been repeatedly stated by both himself, the club and people that know either him or directors in the club, he wants to stay in England because of his family. Surprise, no English club wants to buy him because of his insane price tag. He is the new face of the EPL; do you really think he would leave now? No.

AVB is fearing the worst, when he just publicly came out and told the press he is confident Bale is about to sign a contract extension. You absolute idiot.

You aren't being realistic. You are being a moron.
By the way, did you ever realize that even if Bale wanted to leave - which again, he doesn't, as you would know if you knew anything about Spurs - Levy won't let him leave this season because AVB doesn't want him gone? Yeah, good luck with that.


It seemed then that you were an insider at the club or something. And all that abuse you were showing me saying im a moronic idiot for thinking Bale would leave. How wonderful. I feel the love.

LOL you also said this...

You don't know jack sh*t. He's more than likely going to announce a contract extension in a week or two.

:lol: @ thinking Madrid actually offered 100 million

Pretty much. Journos the world over are preaching about how either he will be sold - the clueless Marca have said he will be sold by tomorrow morning - or how he will cause a fuss due to Levy "denying him an exit". Even though common sense tells you otherwise....Even if Bale genuinely wants to leave, he isn't going to go up in arms about it if we deny him a move. Not only that, but could you imagine the backlash after he signed all those advertising bits with EA Sports and the like that have him in a Spurs shirt for image rights?

yeah massive backlash over a video game. :crazy:

I said this.

I don't think its RM's power over the media. They only have Marca to control. Other news outlets are reporting him not playing in the friendly against Monaco. It is also being reported that he is fit enough to play, but he still isn't going to play. The only conclusion that can be derived is that Bale is negotiating with RM so that's why he isn't going to play.

Marca may have triggered other news outlets to report what they said but i don't think RM have huge power over the world media.

You had ur take on the situation. I had my take on the situation.

Bale hasn't been saying anything to the media so it has been difficult to get proper info about what's going on. Bale is obviously thinking about the Spurs supporters (i.e. Boxhead) and doesn't wan't to tarnish the relationship he has with them.

That is why he hasn't said anything to the media regarding contract negotiations with RM. On the other hand Bale cannot refuse such a huge offer to play for a big club like RM.

It has been reported that Ronaldo will meet with Man Utd officials to talk about going back to Old Trafford. As a RM supporter i would be heartbroken to see Ronaldo leave but then again it would explain why RM are throwing big money at Bale. Bale could possibly be bought by RM to cover the loss of Ronaldo.

I don't know how on earth you think u were right the whole time. Frankly i dont give a shit but whatever floats your boat.
 

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So you think my suggestion of playing Bale as striker is a dumb one? I guess i'm not the only one thinking its a stupid idea.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bale-most-effective-striker-says-150800358--sow.html

Ur saying I believed the media bullshit abt Bale being unhappy? Well i didn't say he was 'unhappy'. I've said he wanted to play for Real Madrid the whole time but Levy/AVB didn't want him to let go.

You said Bale didn't want to leave because of the upgrade in his wages and some other stuff about how his family had settled down. You also said the Gareth Bale transfer just simply could not happen because he is on the cover of FIFA14 in a Spurs jersey. :lol:

And btw the media 'bullshit' you are refering to was right the whole time. Funny how you are saying the media had it wrong the whole time because Bale always wanted to play for Madrid when he was a kid. Bale confirmed this himself.

Its funny how you were totally wrong from the start yet you are trying to make me think that you were right from the start.











http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/english/gareth-bale-i-d-have-come-to-madrid-for-a-penny-1-3072493

AVB also said he was pressured into selling Bale as Bale really did want to leave for Madrid.

Obviously it was Bale's dream to play for Madrid. When did i ever say Bale was "unhappy" at Tottenham? Don't feel me bullshit that i have never said.

This is what you said.



This is what i said initially about Bale.



When did i say Bale was unhappy? :?

When did i ever say i knew how the Spurs worked? Make stop making bullshit up on the spot.

This is what you said.



Good one bro.






It seemed then that you were an insider at the club or something. And all that abuse you were showing me saying im a moronic idiot for thinking Bale would leave. How wonderful. I feel the love.

LOL you also said this...





yeah massive backlash over a video game. :crazy:

I said this.



You had ur take on the situation. I had my take on the situation.



I don't know how on earth you think u were right the whole time. Frankly i dont give a shit but whatever floats your boat.

I think you are missing something...

That was why I enjoyed all that time trolling your a** off.

I don't what is more hilarious, that you fell for the bait all this time, or that you actually spent over an hour quoting and writing all of that.

:lol::lol:

Excuse me while I enjoy my best laugh in years!
 

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You missed my whole f**king point.

You just said i claimed to have said to "know how Spurs were working and what was going on Bale's mind, but I never had a clue" which is all bullshit. And now your claiming to have enjoyed trolling my a** off. So you are piling shit on top of bullshit.

I never claimed to know any of that bullshit you just stated. The thing i claimed is that Bale wanted to leave due to the money factor and that he wanted to play in the champions league. You being a Spurs supporter denied this.

You were never trolling in the first place. You were writing essays to make your point. U were adamant that Bale wouldn't leave. And you were evidently abusing me for thinking otherwise. Twizz also agreed on things you said. And i can guarantee Twizz wasn't trolling. You are only saying that "i was trolling" to hide the fact that you were blatantly wrong in the first place.

Your blatantly lying and making shit up about things that i said which in fact i never did. Please stop posting about the Bale situation to make yourself not look like an idiot. People can be wrong sometimes. I get things wrong and i admit it. But even though you were blatantly wrong in the first and now lying abt it, and also accusing me of saying things which i never did, it just goes to show that you are the type of person to not admit mistakes but instead want to make other people seem like they were wrong.

I couldn't care less if you were wrong. But now you are clearly lying about it.
 
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You missed my whole f**king point.

You just said i claimed to have said to "know how Spurs were working and what was going on Bale's mind, but I never had a clue" which is all bullshit. And now your claiming to have enjoyed trolling my a** off. So you are piling shit on top of bullshit.

I never claimed to know any of that bullshit you just stated. The thing i claimed is that Bale wanted to leave due to the money factor and that he wanted to play in the champions league. You being a Spurs supporter denied this.

You were never trolling in the first place. You were writing essays to make your point. U were adamant that Bale wouldn't leave. And you were evidently abusing me for thinking otherwise. Twizz also agreed on things you said. And i can guarantee Twizz wasn't trolling. You are only saying that "i was trolling" to hide the fact that you were blatantly wrong in the first place.

Your blatantly lying and making shit up about things that i said which in fact i never did. Please stop posting about the Bale situation to make yourself not look like an idiot. People can be wrong sometimes. I get things wrong and i admit it. But even though you were blatantly wrong in the first and now lying abt it, and also accusing me of saying things which i never did, it just goes to show that you are the type of person to not admit mistakes but instead want to make other people seem like they were wrong.

I couldn't care less if you were wrong. But now you are clearly lying about it.

:lol:
Missed the point?

First paragraph;

"I dont think there was a "quick board meeting" to sort out Bale. There was a reason why Bale was so quiet in the media. Like right now he has been pretty open in the media."

Twiz responded and told you that wasn't the case, you responded with;

"So i guess i know how your club works better than you do."

The simple fact of the matter is that Bale was gagged by the media, not because he was itching to leave and making tumult at the club. The club didn't believe Bale was leaving at any point because up until that last week Madrid had not made a good offer. Ergo, you don't know what was actually happening there. Ergo, you are the one bullsh*tting about me bullsh*tting.

"If he thinks or at least wanted to stay at Tottenham then he would have least said it pubicly at least once."

And you were trying to tell me you weren't claiming to know what was happening with Bale?

Trolling a Real Madrid fan who blindly believed the crap Marca and AS were spewing? Believing all those articles when not one of them had any substance to them?

"It is also being reported that he is fit enough to play, but he still isn't going to play. The only conclusion that can be derived is that Bale is negotiating with RM so that's why he isn't going to play."

Wrong again. Bale was injured, hence the reason he didn't play for Wales. Lots of broad assumptions there. Hence why I was trolling you.

"Bale hasn't been saying anything to the media so it has been difficult to get proper info about what's going on. Bale is obviously thinking about the Spurs supporters (i.e. Boxhead) and doesn't wan't to tarnish the relationship he has with them. That is why he hasn't said anything to the media regarding contract negotiations with RM."

I'm sorry, you just said earlier that I was bullsh*tting about you implying what Bale was thinking. Try again, moron. You then responded to Twizzle, who disproved your assertions, with this;

"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...Tottenham.html
At least i can back up whatever i say unlike Boxhead."

Blindly believing media outlets. How was I not backing up what I was saying? The only information you ever had were the lies in the media. Twiz and I had seen information from trusted sources inside the club, all of whom were saying the same thing; "unless Madrid make a big offer, which they can't seem to fund regardless, Bale will stay". See a theme here? More assumptions;

"Why would a player who is heavily linked to a spanish club (out of all countries in the world) go to Spain to "stay away from the press"?"

Again, I still don't see anything but assumptions that you knew what was going on with Bale.

Now, on to your second paragraph.

Wait a minute, you just stated that you weren't claiming to know what was going on in Bale's mind, and then you immediately follow it up with;
"The thing i claimed is that Bale wanted to leave due to the money factor and that he wanted to play in the champions league."

What? How is this not assuming you knew what was going on in Bale's mind? We didn't deny that Bale would inevitably be lured at some point, what Twiz and I pointed out was that Bale would have liked to stay as well due to his family.

Third paragraph. Clearly you don't know me. My average typing speed is about 120 words per minute. I write those "essays" in a few minutes. Ergo, I was trolling you, you just can't accept it. The reality was, you were believing the crap the papers were putting out, when they were wrong, wrong, wrong. Every paper put out "Bale done deal announced soon" articles in a frenzy over the entire window. The only time that any of them were right, as in, Madrid had actually made an offer and we had accepted, was in the last week of the window. How hard is this to understand? We were dog-piling the articles you were quoting because none of them had any idea what was really going on.

I was adamant that Bale wouldn't leave unless Madrid made a tangible offer. No-one, I repeat, no-one who actually knew what they were talking about believed Madrid would actually have the finances to fund a Bale transfer because of all the debt and bank issues they have been having. They are still trying to pay us for Modric. Our information was coming from club insiders who didn't think it was even possible for Bale to leave. Personally, I expected him to go though as I guessed Madrid would sell someone to fund the transfer. I just didn't think they would be stupid enough to sell Ozil.

Abusing? I think you mean "trolling". :lol:

Twiz agreed with me because we actually knew what was going on, and you didn't. The "trolling" was making fun of the fact that you thought you knew what was going on - and don't try and deny it, as I proved above - when you had NFI.

I'm not saying "I was trolling" to hide the fact I was wrong. How was I wrong again? Do I need to add "at this point in time" to each one of my posts, or is that too obvious? Logic. Look it up. Twiz and I weren't wrong because at the time, Madrid weren't even close to coming anywhere near our valuation, and I don't think even Madrid themselves thought they could fund the transfer. So no, we weren't wrong, because our information was spot on and the argument at hand was that the media were bullsh*tting, which they were as has been proven countless times.

Fourth paragraph. Oh lol!!

"Your blatantly lying and making shit up about things that i said which in fact i never did."

I could get about ten more quotes from you that say otherwise, hypocrite, but ok, enjoy your little fantasy.

"But even though you were blatantly wrong in the first and now lying abt it, and also accusing me of saying things which i never did, it just goes to show that you are the type of person to not admit mistakes but instead want to make other people seem like they were wrong."

I wasn't blatantly wrong in the first place. I was right because at that point in time he wasn't leaving. Things change. Facts become outdated. That does not make one "wrong", that merely means that their thoughts/opinions/statements must be adapted to changing conditions. I'm not lying about anything, and again you are merely proving you are being hypocritical. I'm accusing you of things which you *did* do, so stop lying.

Hahahaha! Oh LOLLLL! Classic internet schoolboy mentality; "if you are a d*ckhead in cyberspace, you are a d*ckhead in realspace". The reality is that the anonymity of internet forums allows people to express themselves with less restraint and fear of backlash. If you met with me in person, you would find that I am the first one in any argument to admit to a mistake. Judging character on the internet is a hilarious waste of time.

This is hilarious. Keep 'em coming boy. I'll take another five minutes of my sweet precious article-writing time to give you a bone.
 

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I really fkn ceebs to reply to all that shit. I made those 'assumptions' from media outlets. All im gonna say is that Bale kept emphasising his dream to play for Madrid. Dreams dont start 7 days before the end of the transfer period.
 

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I really fkn ceebs to reply to all that shit. I made those 'assumptions' from media outlets. All im gonna say is that Bale kept emphasising his dream to play for Madrid. Dreams dont start 7 days before the end of the transfer period.

This is the thing mate (and I'm being serious now), the assumptions you made were based on media outlets who were either being fed lies, or making the lies up themselves. The simple truth of the matter is that until that last week, Spurs were adamant Bale would not be sold, and nor had Madrid made a serious offer. Bale was told by the club to stay out of the media and keep to himself across the window, regardless of the outcome, so that he could have a clear head whether he left or stayed.

The media was being drip fed bullsh*t by Madrid, or making it up, so as to turn his head and obviously get lots of hits. It was by far the biggest football story of the transfer window. You could probably theorize that Spurs stoked the fires as well to generate a lot of interest. As far as him wanting to go there, from what we actually know, he would have been fine with staying another year. As we know (and Spurs fans know best) he is a true professional and he doesn't have the ego people make him out to have. He's always wanted to play for Madrid and/or Manchester United, but that didn't mean he actively wanted to leave Spurs. He behaved himself a lot better than Modric did under similar scrutiny, which speaks volumes to his character.

I'm sorry for being a d*ckhead, but really, the truth is that the facts were misconstrued by the media.
 

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