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Big Sam

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He's the perfect player for Pep's style. Plus BVB brought in Reus last offseason because they knew they were gonna lose Gotze eventually.
 

Jimbo

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The manager merry-go-round is almost as interesting as the player market at the moment

The latest line of rumours is that Wenger is going to replace Ancelotti at PSG, who is going to replace Mourinho at Real Madrid, who is going to replace Benitez at Chelsea...
 

whall15

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Wenger going to PSG would be interesting considering that the replacement is rumoured to be from the J-League, Dragan Stojkovic. Apparently he's Wenger's protege.

That could easily blow up in Arsenal's faces.
 

Big Sam

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The latest line of rumours is that Wenger is going to replace Ancelotti at PSG, who is going to replace Mourinho at Real Madrid, who is going to replace Benitez at Chelsea...

First two thirds of that are very likely but no way will Jose be coaching under Abramovich.

I reckon Mourinho could go to City or coach Portugal to the WC while he waits for SAF to retire.

Another interesting coaching situation is 'Arry. Said he'd stay with QPR even in the Championship but I very much doubt that. So where will he end up?
 

Jimbo

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First two thirds of that are very likely but no way will Jose be coaching under Abramovich.

I reckon Mourinho could go to City or coach Portugal to the WC while he waits for SAF to retire.

The Mourinho part is the only bit which is being reported as a done deal

Another interesting coaching situation is 'Arry. Said he'd stay with QPR even in the Championship but I very much doubt that. So where will he end up?

Don't know, but he belongs in the PL

If he stays at QPR, back them to win the Championship next year
 

whall15

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Disagree on both counts there Jimmy, Redknapp's the most overrated manager in a long time, if you look at his record it's not very flash at all.
 

Big Sam

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Disagree on both counts there Jimmy, Redknapp's the most overrated manager in a long time, if you look at his record it's not very flash at all.

To be fair, he's won an FA Cup and taken a side to the quarters of the European Cup putting him in an elite class.

For you Chelsea two, do you think Mourinho will properly clean out the squad? Or will he succumb to player power?
 

whall15

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Bournemouth for 9 years, wins League 2 and the Johnston's Paint Trophy (both equivalents)

West Ham, did reasonably well particularly when it came to promoting youth.

Portsmouth first time, did okay, got them promoted and kept them up.

Southampton, got them relegated, kept them down.

Portsmouth two, won the FA Cup but at a horrendous cost, his ridiculous spending condemned them to seasons of relegations and administrations, to the Championship, to League One and then to League Two, this was his nadir. This was the George W. Bush of football management.

Spurs, did quite well.

QPR, spent recklessly, sent them down.

Hardly a brilliant record.
 

whall15

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To be fair, he's won an FA Cup and taken a side to the quarters of the European Cup putting him in an elite class.

For you Chelsea two, do you think Mourinho will properly clean out the squad? Or will he succumb to player power?

For point number one, Roberto Di Matteo won a FA Cup and won a Champions League.

On your second point I don't really think that's an issue, we have already gone through that transition, only three of the old guard remain, Petr Cech, John Terry and Frank Lampard.

From what I've read Lampard will get one more year under Jose, I suspect after a couple of years Cech will leave to be replaced by Courtois and then you're left with one in John Terry.

Realistically, if anyone succumbs to anyone it will be the players to Jose Mourinho.
 

Jimbo

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For you Chelsea two, do you think Mourinho will properly clean out the squad? Or will he succumb to player power?

You refer to "player power" like it's a bad thing

The core group of Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Cole and Cech were the foundation of ten major trophies in the Abramovich era, despite the apparent chaos that managerial instability was supposed to have caused

It was these players who got the team to Moscow despite Grant's management, and they were also largely responsible for pulling the team together last year and going all the way

And they are a group that Mourinho put together
 

Big Sam

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Realistically, if anyone succumbs to anyone it will be the players to Jose Mourinho.
Maybe in the past but given what happened this season with Casillas and co. his man management skills possibly need sharpening.

You refer to "player power" like it's a bad thing

For Chelsea in 2013, it is. Clearly it worked in the past but now this standing/stature within the club of the likes of Cole, Terry etc. makes it harder for them to be dropped or moved on.

They all strike me as the type of players who will be selfish enough to not leave. Look at the example of Carragher with us - realised that he was holding the side back so decided to call it quits.
 

whall15

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It is interesting to draw parallels with Real Madrid.

Mourinho's man-management style has been largely on the siege mentality, that is incredibly hard to engineer with a club at Real Madrid, who have won nine European Cups, have the entire league virtually engineering around them and Barca and they have a players who have won the World Cup in Casillas like you said.

Now I don't really think the two points I raised are particularly relevant to Chelsea but the third might, it's been a while since Jose's been at Chelsea and since then we have won the Champions League, which was something that Jose failed to do.

Despite saying this I still think there are differences here, at Real Madrid the Spanish World Cup winning contingent lead by the likes of Iker Casillas won two Euros and a World Cup under the stable reign of Luis Aragones and Vicente del Bosque playing a distinct style of play, so in this example they have an example who they can look to where they achieved this success in a very different way to how Jose plays, at Chelsea you don't really have this issue to deal with because of the instability, since Jose Mourinho we have had two successful periods, the first was under Carlo Ancelotti, who despite winning the double did not better anything that Jose Mourinho had done before him, the second was under Roberto di Matteo, now firstly Roberto di Matteo not only was in charge for a pretty short spell but he has also left so he doesn't have to directly succeed him (although truth be told with a figure like Mourinho I think this would be largely irrelevant anyway). Also, di Matteo won the Champions League in a pretty pragmatic way that doesn't really contradict Mourinho at all.

Finally, I think Mourinho is still held in such a special way at Chelsea that the playing group would still be largely in awe of him.

Sorry for being so long-winded.
 

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I heard Harry is wanted by Villa but dont know if he will go, they desperately need a new manager.
 

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