Trent Merrin on Anthony Griffin

[franklin2323]

If Cleary does go. We will have $1m+ to go after another half hardly a terrible thing. Sure keeping him is best

 

[OldPanther]

The 1 rep player who wants to stay looks like getting pushed out. Poor Sauce

Did you forget about the man who is both beauty and beast RCG!

I love Mansour. But as a winger he is more expendable than losing our halfback. We can build around Cleary and he should have ~10 years ahead of him. More possibly.

We cant lose him. Thats the last 7 years of Gus being here wasted.

We would have lost every singled spine player bought and/or developed. The only way to be regularly successful is to keep those players.

Completely agree.

 

[OldPanther]

If Cleary does go. We will have $1m+ to go after another half hardly a terrible thing. Sure keeping him is best

It is bad for a development club to lose all the halves they develop.

 

[mxlegend99]

If Cleary does go. We will have $1m+ to go after another half hardly a terrible thing. Sure keeping him is best

Lose the best young half in the game... its all good we'll have lots of money. Unless we can use his money to buy a player we can build longterm success around it is terrible.

It would mean we will be starting from scratch again with a brand new 6, 7 and 9 in the next 2 or 3 years. Which would mean we have built towards nothing. Cleary and Edwards need to be the guys we build around. Egan eventually. A high quality spine with around a decade together in them. That will deliver us a premiership eventually.

 

[OldPanther]

Lose the best young half in the game... its all good we'll have lots of money. Unless we can use his money to buy a player we can build longterm success around it is terrible.

It would mean we will be starting from scratch again with a brand new 6, 7 and 9 in the next 2 or 3 years. Which would mean we have built towards nothing. Cleary and Edwards need to be the guys we build around. Egan eventually. A high quality spine with around a decade together in them. That will deliver us a premiership eventually.

Yep.

1. Edwards
6. Luai???
7. Cleary
9. Egan

Sounds promising with game time. Luai is the only one I'm not sure about.

 

[hindy111]

Honestly you would be selfish to talk your son into going to the tigers.
Worse run club in NRL.

 

[franklin2323]

Lose the best young half in the game... its all good we'll have lots of money. Unless we can use his money to buy a player we can build longterm success around it is terrible.

It would mean we will be starting from scratch again with a brand new 6, 7 and 9 in the next 2 or 3 years. Which would mean we have built towards nothing. Cleary and Edwards need to be the guys we build around. Egan eventually. A high quality spine with around a decade together in them. That will deliver us a premiership eventually.

How do you stop him going to play with his dad?

We have the better roster.
He has all his friends here. Better options for rep jerseys
If the money matches and he goes. How do we stop it? That is my point

 

[umina panther]

How do you stop him going to play with his dad?

We have the better roster.
He has all his friends here. Better options for rep jerseys
If the money matches and he goes. How do we stop it? That is my point

Gus shat all over his dad. I highly doubt matching other offers will be enough

 

[mxlegend99]

How do you stop him going to play with his dad?

We have the better roster.
He has all his friends here. Better options for rep jerseys
If the money matches and he goes. How do we stop it? That is my point

You throw overs at him to stay. This is a case where it can be justified. Tell him he can go down in history as the greatest Panthers player ever. Atleast as the one holding the most records.

Most games ever played. Most points scored etc. Hes in a unique pisition to be a record holder here.

Cleary is worth more to this club than any other player here. Between his age, position he plays and maturity he is the most important player at the club. These types of players dont come along very often. We cant lose him because Gus sacked his dad or because we paid overs to front rowers. We need to do whatever it takes.

We lose him and its terrible.

 

[Royce is King]

Umina.... you have got to get over Phil Gould..... How did he shit on Ivan Cleary?.... He sacked him right?....... only 2 types of NRL coaches.... those that have been sacked....or those that are waiting to be sacked. Nathan has signed 2 contracts with Penrith since his dad got sacked.... so really that means nothing and anybody who aspires to be a coach knows that job security is nil.

Ivan's record here in taking the team to the finals was 25%
The bloke who took his job is currently sitting on 100%

If Griffin missed the finals the last 2 yrs he would be unemployed as well...... thats the job.

So you honestly believe the Cleary family have this massive grudge against the club? ..... Grow up.

 

[umina panther]

Sacked him which is all part of the job.

Then he went and told the media all this shit about Ivan being "Tired and needing a break from coaching". Unprofessional bullshit. What a merkin of a bloke

 

[OldPanther]

Umina.... you have got to get over Phil Gould..... How did he shit on Ivan Cleary?.... He sacked him right?....... only 2 types of NRL coaches.... those that have been sacked....or those that are waiting to be sacked. Nathan has signed 2 contracts with Penrith since his dad got sacked.... so really that means nothing and anybody who aspires to be a coach knows that job security is nil.

Ivan's record here in taking the team to the finals was 25%
The bloke who took his job is currently sitting on 100%

If Griffin missed the finals the last 2 yrs he would be unemployed as well...... thats the job.

So you honestly believe the Cleary family have this massive grudge against the club? ..... Grow up.

You do realise Ivan wasn't coaching between being sacked and this year so how could Nathan follow him? Unless it's out of the game. I don't believe there is a big conspiracy though.

 

[franklin2323]

Gus shat all over his dad. I highly doubt matching other offers will be enough

so my point still stands. We'd have $1m plus for another half

 

[OldPanther]

so my point still stands. We'd have $1m plus for another half

While true it's definitely not an ideal outcome.

 

[franklin2323]

You throw overs at him to stay. This is a case where it can be justified. Tell him he can go down in history as the greatest Panthers player ever. Atleast as the one holding the most records.

Most games ever played. Most points scored etc. Hes in a unique pisition to be a record holder here.

Cleary is worth more to this club than any other player here. Between his age, position he plays and maturity he is the most important player at the club. These types of players dont come along very often. We cant lose him because Gus sacked his dad or because we paid overs to front rowers. We need to do whatever it takes.

We lose him and its terrible.

I get all that but if he wants to go to Family then not much we can do to stop him. He isn't going because we don't have cap space so the silver lining is we have that cap space to get another half

 

[umina panther]

so my point still stands. We'd have $1m plus for another half

and the revolving door at Penrith keeps on spinning. We are deadset like a mid table EPL side.

I've said my opinion on this more than enough times so I'll shut up about it

 

[franklin2323]

While true it's definitely not an ideal outcome.

Far from it but we'd be able to buy any half in the comp. Not a bad fallback plan

 

[franklin2323]

and the revolving door at Penrith keeps on spinning. We are deadset like a mid table EPL side.

I've said my opinion on this more than enough times so I'll shut up about it

How do you stop it though? across the NRL tells a similar story players always going elsewhere.

The Sharks team that runs out in 2018 will barely look like the one that won the comp. Broncs and Roosters have had huge overhauls too so it is hardly a Penrith only issue

 

[PANTHERMIKE]

Will Nathan want to play for the Tigers, who really have no chance of making the finals any time soon - No

Will he want to stay and build with his mates he has played with for years - I'd think so.

Will he want the massive money on offer from Penrith - I'd think so,

Will Ivan still be at the tigers in 2 years - Not if they are not winning. History shows that.

Will he want to remain in a squad he has help build to win, who hopefully have played finals in all 4 of his seasons - I'd think so.

Is Ivan doing his best by pushing the father son agenda, to drive Nathans price up - Yes.

If Nath was so dirty on the Panthers when his dad was punted, wouldn't he had gone to ANY of the other clubs that would have signed him up for the 20's and beyond - Yes.

 

[OldPanther]

Will Nathan want to play for the Tigers, who really have no chance of making the finals any time soon - No

Will he want to stay and build with his mates he has played with for years - I'd think so.

Will he want the massive money on offer from Penrith - I'd think so,

Will Ivan still be at the tigers in 2 years - Not if they are not winning. History shows that.

Will he want to remain in a squad he has help build to win, who hopefully have played finals in all 4 of his seasons - I'd think so.

Is Ivan doing his best by pushing the father son agenda, to drive Nathans price up - Yes.

If Nath was so dirty on the Panthers when his dad was punted, wouldn't he had gone to ANY of the other clubs that would have signed him up for the 20's and beyond - Yes.

This sounds reasonable. I guess we won't know until his contract is up.