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[ANTiLAG]

Why would I be bothered by Australia's close relationship with Indian cricket ? There is money to be made in Australia and India. Cricket Australia needs some decent odis after the bath we are going to take on shitty NZ and the WI.

You seriously lack comprehension. There is money to be made in having India tour ANY away nation. The money comes from the winning Indian broadcaster to the HOST nation.

Indian broadcast rights don't care if the games are close or wide losses. NZ comfortably beat India 4-0 in 2014 in the pjyama matches at home. Makes no difference win or lose, its just having them tour and play limited overs more so and less so test cricket. $$$

 

[Pete Cash]

Australia's revenue during the last ashes series at home was 300 million dollars. How did that odi series with India in nz compare lol

 

[ANTiLAG]

Australia's revenue during the last ashes series at home was 300 million dollars. How did that odi series with India in nz compare lol

Put it this way,

Nine’s cricket revenue already ‘close to surpassing that of entire 2013/14 Ashes series’ Revenue secured by Channel Nine before the start of the opening test match between Australia and India nearly outstripped that generated throughout last year’s entire Ashes series, the network has said. Group sales and marketing director Peter Wiltshire said it came “very close” to beating the revenue from the five-match clash with England “before a ball had been bowled” in this week’s first test in Adelaide.

http://mumbrella.com.au/nines-cricket-revenue-already-close-surpassing-entire-201314-ashes-series-267086

And thats just the host broadcaster doing the camera work and commentary selling advertising opportunities- not the home board.

You really should read around the subject if you want to be wise as to what you're arguing about.

 

[Pete Cash]

Uhh for one that's nine not cricket Australia. Secondly if cricket Australia was making 300 million on ashes and Indian series then happy days for Australian cricket. How many years would it take for NZ cricket to match a good Australian summer....a 100 ?

 

[ANTiLAG]

Uhh for one that's nine not cricket Australia. Secondly if cricket Australia was making 300 million on ashes and Indian series then happy days for Australian cricket. How many years would it take for NZ cricket to match a good Australian summer....a 100 ?

Stop arguing from ignorance and think about it. Who does nine buy the cricket from and what sets the value of the massive price $500-590 million dollar price it pays for 4 years of cricket rights? The Ashes? No.

Nine Network

The Nine Network has partnered with Cricket Australia since 1977 to broadcast all Australian home international cricket matches. Its backbone is three television stations in Australia’s major metropolitan cities; Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane and most recently Nine has added NWS Adelaide to its portfolio.

In addition to the television broadcast the Nine Network has partnered with Cricket Australia in a joint venture incorporating digital rights to home international cricket matches.

http://www.cricketaustralia.com.au/about/partners/broadcast

The money comes from India touring.

India far outweighs the Ashes for broadcast rights value. The stadiums could be empty or full. It makes no difference. You're living off the Star Sports rupee and the Channel nine generated Indian rupee.

 

[Pete Cash]

With a world cup cricket australias revenue last year was 380 million. So a world cup and an Indian series brought cricket Australia 80 million more than an ashes year.

The facts are cricket Australia makes plenty of money out of India but is not completely reliant on it.

We are also a high profile touring team. Yes for Indian TV money but again who cares. Why would any Australian mind. India has a billion cricket mad people. The more money that comes into the game from India will transfer to England and Australia too. Everyone wins....so long as they are India, England or Australia.

 

[El Diablo]

NZ should be thankful we bothered playing them at all

 

[Pete Cash]

They honestly no joke should. It's going to hurt cricket australias revenue to have such z grade tours.

 

[ANTiLAG]

With a world cup cricket australias revenue last year was 380 million. So a world cup and an Indian series brought cricket Australia 80 million more than an ashes year.

The facts are cricket Australia makes plenty of money out of India but is not completely reliant on it.

We are also a high profile touring team. Yes for Indian TV money but again who cares. Why would any Australian mind. India has a billion cricket mad people. The more money that comes into the game from India will transfer to England and Australia too. Everyone wins....so long as they are India, England or Australia.

No.

You are making critical errors in assumption. Cricket Australia sells its cricket to Channel 9 and co in a multi year cycle. That money can be paid out in whatever terms for each years revenue.

The 2013/14 - 2016/7 cycle will net Cricket Australia about 1.22 billion. If your 200 million 2013/14 Ashes stat is accurate (wherever you got it from) you need to appreciate that the next BILLION dollars is not coming from poor New Zealand, South Africa, West Indies, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe or Pakistan. You've had your 200 million from England - that Billion is coming in great majority from Indian rupees.

This is why the USA and its Indian ex-pat population is so important as a market for cricket.

A home board can sell everything to say Sony, who will bid in terms of how many matches involving India they are getting. And the World Cup 380 million - that is mostly generated by Indian rupees too.

 

[Pete Cash]

300 million you illiterate clown

 

[ANTiLAG]

300 million you illiterate clown

200 - 300 million - makes no difference, 900 million or a billion - its still mostly being made up by Indian rupees. I'm pretty sure India would have bought and broadcast your Ashes series as well in 2013/14 .

 

[Pete Cash]

Again that's because Australia is a desirable cricket nation. People all over the world want to watch the ashes. Nobody wants to watch NZ play Sri Lanka over and over again..

We make the vast majority of our revenue out of India and home ashes series. Why would I care.

 

[Twatface Magee]

Mustn't be much to do in NZ on a Sunday night.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Again that's because Australia is a desirable cricket nation. People all over the world want to watch the ashes. Nobody wants to watch NZ play Sri Lanka over and over again..

We make the vast majority of our revenue out of India and home ashes series. Why would I care.

You make the vast majority of your revenue out of India, directly or indirectly, its rupees.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Mustn't be much to do in NZ on a Sunday night.

Is that where you and Pete Cash are residing presently?

 

[Pete Cash]

To use the feudal system

King = India
Lords of the realm = Australia and England
Peasants = rest of the cricketing world
An especially poor peasant = NZ

 

[Pete Cash]

You make the vast majority of your revenue out of India.

Why doesn't NZ make the same amount of money out of India ?

 

[ANTiLAG]

To use the feudal system

King = India
Lords of the realm = Australia and England
Peasants = rest of the cricketing world
An especially poor peasant = NZ

To use Monarchy System

King = India.

Everyone else = not King.

 

[Pete Cash]

If you think Australian cricket is on the same level as NZ cricket all I can say is lol

 

[ANTiLAG]

Why doesn't NZ make the same amount of money out of India ?

We don't have Channel 9 people doing the bargaining.

I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly NZ Cricket sells everything to Sony or some other comglomerate for peanuts or whoever who then sells to Indian broadcasters (or uses its own distributors) in a 4 or 5 year cycle, who basically pays for India tours as the product that they have bought. Try selling Pakistan or Sri Lanka touring anywhere that isn't India. There is no money in it. So NZC plays it safe by selling everything underprice to Sony or whoever as a means of insurance and keeping the revenue flowing.

Indian tours pay all the bills on projections. NZ and all other test nations just live in Indian tour cycles. Aussie touring NZ does not pay the bills, and the NZ players are not even paid that much. BMac 400K (200K plus match fees) as the highest earner.

EDIT - NZ sells to one conglomerate on a 8 year cycle which includes 2 India tours. It is Pitch International who then sells it to Sony in India. So when Australia tours NZ, your broadcast will be bought from them, not NZ Cricket. Pitch International is "middle manning".