Ice777 said:
In all fairness which i know you have trouble with, but it was either the Sth Melbourne and Fitzroy relocated/merged or they wouldn't exist as any entity today and it has absolutely nothing to do with AFL moving away from tradition.
So, nailing two foundation clubs isn't dispensing with tradition?
Of course it has to do with ignoring tradition.
Ice777 said:
Now this might be just me, but if my team was going to fold and the only way they could survive was to relocate or merge, i'd take one of those options in a heartbeat.
You might, if given the choice.
The Swans fans weren't given a choice.
Ice777 said:
You're a Tigers supporter aren't you? Would you rather a merged team or one that doesn't exist at all? No need to answer i know it already.
No you don't, you wouldn't have a clue.
Ice777 said:
Bottom line is i'm sure the NRL didn't want to break with tradition and merge these sides just as the AFL didn't want to either, but both leagues and the teams involved had no choice and as mentioned getting away from tradition had jack sh*t to do with it.
So, which is it?
The AFL had to break with tradition or it didn't by making South Melbourne move, like you said in paragraph 1.
I bolded the 2 statements for you.
Ice777 said:
As for you saying the AFL again moved away from tradition by not playing at suburban grounds, can i ask you this? What choice did they have but to do so? To stick with tradition should they have kept playing at the grounds and deny the people to see their own footy teams? I highly doubt even you think they should've done that. As much as i loved nothing better going to the footy at Victoria Park, Princes Park, Windy Hill to name a few the fact is the AFL simply outgrew these suburban grounds and they could no longer sustain the crowds. Victoria Park only held 30 odd thousand, what do the Pies aveerage to home games now? About 60K? It's not just them it's every team but they're a prime example.
I didn't say it was wrong, I said it lacked respect for tradition. And that's poignant given your argument that "AFL don't want to break with tradition by moving the GF".
They don't give a sh*t about tradition. They'll use it when they can make money from it and they'll dispense with it if it costs them.
Ice777 said:
So again that has nothing to do with the AFL eagerly and readily ignoring tradition, again it was a necesessity. The name of the game is to grow it and not stifle it which is exactly what they would've done if they hadn't have made the move away from suburban grounds.
That is a load of bollocks.
The AFL will carve tradition in a minute if it suits them.
As it did with the Swans, Lions, State of Origin, suburban grounds....
State of Origin, there's a good discussion point.
What did the AFL do to that?
Tried to turn it into a provincial competition and when it didn't work what did it do then?
It dumped it with no regard for the tradition involved. And don't even try to bullsh*t that there wasn't tradition involved with the "Big V"....
If the AFL felt there would be an advantage to going to Sunday nights, it'd be there already.
A question for you;
What time of day were the AFL preliminary finals held in 2006?
