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Tyrone May

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How can you say this? The charges were dropped, ie nothing could be proven. He should have fought the one he pleaded guilty to as well, poorly advised once again.
Ah, so this is why you’ve been defending May so much, you don’t actually think he did anything wrong. Good to know.
 

The_Frog

First Grade
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It seemed the obvious implication, am I wrong?

Why don’t you think he should’ve plead guilty then?
Because he could have demonstrated with a skilled barrister that the victims were not perturbed in the slightest until the material became viral. The recording of it wasn't a problem but the posting online was, otherwise they'd have gone to the cops long before it appeared online.

For a normal average bloke, community service is a good trade off to put something like this into the past. But being an NRL player is different, It didn't put it in the past at all and it's still being rehashed ad nauseum, and now its about to cost him his livelihood. The lawyer advising him should have considered this.

So why did he plead guilty? To protect others who might have been implicated in a trial I would suggest. No idea who those others were and wouldn't even speculate here.
 
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Oh I can go harder, however, you are not worth it. The dragons gave that sub human a second chance, not the Tigers. So that's on the dragons. Nice retort, try coming up with your own next time.
Oh I can go harder. However, you are not worth it. The Dragons gave that sub-human a second chance. Not the Tigers. So that's on the Dragons.

Nice retort. Try coming up with your own next time.

(Fixed your grammatical errors for you. You’re welcome 😉)
 
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No...not quite true unfortunately...it was Ivan's ultimatum to Isaac Moses group of four...Tedesco..Woods...Moses and Brooks stringing the club along ..that they " have to decide if they're on the bus or not" as he wanted a commitment...of course he was right in puting it to them that way, he just didn't mention he wasn't including himself.
No one who saw The Family Man embrace his son after they had won a premiership together doubts he did the right thing.

And before you say it, ‘the Tigers gave him a chance when no one did blah, blah blah’ I am sure he would be reflective and appreciative of the time he spent at the Tigers and the way it went down if Tigpies fans and even their CEO didn’t go on like entitled fools about the whole situation.
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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No one who saw The Family Man embrace his son after they had won a premiership together doubts he did the right thing.

And before you say it, ‘the Tigers gave him a chance when no one did blah, blah blah’ I am sure he would be reflective and appreciative of the time he spent at the Tigers and the way it went down if Tigpies fans and even their CEO didn’t go on like entitled fools about the whole situation.


The scenes between Ivan, Nathan and the rest of the family were just joyous.

Ivan has been honest and open about how messy his leaving W/T, I believe he sees it as his ONLY regret in the whole saga.

The W/T faithful will continue to blame Ivan, the Cleary family, Penrith well fact everyone about their 10 years woes.

Until the W/T organisation and their faithful confront the fact that much of their misery is their own doing, (not others) this will continue.

I've said it before what ails W/T is what looks at them back in the mirror each and every morning.

That along with attempting quick fixes and dodgy deals.
 

Luke Bowden

First Grade
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It really doesn’t. They are bound by legal precedents.

In the first instance he was dealt with by a local court so he was sentenced by a Magistrate, not a judge. Judges preside over higher courts ie District or Supreme Courts depending in the severity of the charges.

Persons with no prior convictions don’t get sentenced to prison terms and nor should they, assuming they are being dealt with in a Local Court.

Whatever your position is on what Tyrone May did, given all the facts, his previous good character, no prior criminal convictions he was not someone who would ever be considered for a full time custodial sentence.
100% correct.
Even the DPP submitted that they did not believe that TMay deserved a custodial sentence.
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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No one is suggesting violence against women doesn’t get much worse than what Tyrone May has done, yours is a total strawman argument.

This is a forum to discuss the Penrith Panthers, that’s why the focus is on May. This isn’t hard to grasp.
I am of the view the actions of Tyrone May do not constitute acts of violence towards women as some have suggested.

There was no violence involved, and suggesting otherwise is wrong. That is the point I was making, although clearly lost on you.
 

Bob

Juniors
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Maybe it’s time for Tyrone to think about playing overseas for a couple of years in the English Super League, competition Is weaker there, he might regain the confidence In his leg that he had before his acl operation, might let him grow up a bit to if he can get a visa
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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Point I was making is filming a woman without consent is far worse than distributing it. The video got out because of him, even if he wasn’t convicted of distribution.
I would have thought the opposite, the distribution or publishing such videos in a public domain is actually worse.

If a person chose to film ones sexual exploits with another, without there consent, but kept the video to themselves only for there own viewing or pleasure how could that possibly be worse. No one other that the person who took the video is aware of its existence.
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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Which is f**king pathetic. I really hope her family sorts the merkin at some point
It’s the law. Legal precedents. Case Law, google it.

Are you suggesting the family of the victim should somehow seek there own retribution? Really.

As I understand she was or is pursuing damages in the civil courts. Hopefully she receives adequate compensation pursuing her case through lawful endeavours.
 

The_Frog

First Grade
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Maybe it’s time for Tyrone to think about playing overseas for a couple of years in the English Super League, competition Is weaker there, he might regain the confidence In his leg that he had before his acl operation, might let him grow up a bit to if he can get a visa
Big if that, but excellent idea. In France best of all, media won't be an issue there if he keeps his head down.
 

The_Frog

First Grade
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It’s the law. Legal precedents. Case Law, google it.

Are you suggesting the family of the victim should somehow seek there own retribution? Really.

As I understand she was or is pursuing damages in the civil courts. Hopefully she receives adequate compensation pursuing her case through lawful endeavours.
Settled for an undisclosed sum some months back. Interestingly this would have left the way open for the other woman, from the north coast, to do likewise but she hasn't bothered, nor has she talked to media.
 

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