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Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

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T.S Quint

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It took me a long time to find a job that I both love and am good at.
I wish I could do it until I retire.
Unfortunately it is a shit-paying job which means I will soon have to give it up, or live on struggle street.
The only way I can see myself staying in the job is if I can end up marrying a woman who earns some good money.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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I was always a lazy worker, but a smart lazy worker. Working the mines was such a crazy technical job that the builders were doing, that if I pushed for an hour I could knock off for the day and take it easy. Always take the less work option, sadly the merkins I was working with didn't see it that way.

I think Bill Gates once said he would give the hardest task to the laziest programmer - and they'd come up with the most simple solution.
 

Dragon2010

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I was about to get my angry pants on.

I work so hard, maybe not always mentally, but physically my job is so draining. I've worked myself into the ground for very little reward. But I'm good at my job. Actually, I'm great at my job.

I know plenty of retail workers who work hard, I know plenty or lazy ones. As there is in nearly every profession.

I've been to the hospital on several occasions to visit family, once where my grandfather was sick after he had a stroke. The doctors there were so lazy I was ready to throw on a gown and do their job. It took them two f*cking days to work out what he had. I worked it out in 5 minutes.

I was always a lazy worker, but a smart lazy worker. Working the mines was such a crazy technical job that the builders were doing, that if I pushed for an hour I could knock off for the day and take it easy. Always take the less work option, sadly the merkins I was working with didn't see it that way.

What are you trained/qualified in, mate?

I'm happy when I'm happy. I've found that working long hours and climbing the ladder (as I've done at any job I've done) doesn't provide me with a great deal of lasting happiness, although I do enjoy the temporary ego boost of being elevated and seeing my work rewarded.

I don't say 'hard work' because I've never gone in for a job that required it. I believe life is meant to be enjoyed, and I wouldn't be able to enjoy myself wearing myself out every day just so I can afford a mortgage, a car, and two weeks a year in a generic resort somewhere.

I'm much happier with my current existence. I may live a lifestyle similar to that I had as a college student, but I'm generally making more money than I'm spending and I'm seeing the world at the same time.

I'd rather do that and die at 40 knowing I've done as much as I could, then live to be rich and 80 without having any real experiences to my name.

I will admit, you live a pretty awesome, enjoyable yet satisfying life. Going off what I know that is. Now, just get yourself an American girl, settle life in a nice US town and you'll be set.
 

afinalsin666

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What are you trained/qualified in, mate?

Nothing, sadly. Dropped out after year 10, worked as a scaffolder for a year or two, got a useless diploma of multimedia, and then the government started charging for courses right when i figured out what i wanted to do. No help for them either, and i'm not throwing money out of pocket on a maybe. So now i'm still on the carer pension for mum.

Going to be saving for security and rsa/rcg tickets.
 

Dragon2010

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I'll start another on up. It's to quiet in here.

The Gaza/Palestine/Israel crisis. What's your stance/understanding on the matter and how do you feel about the current issues happening there?
 

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I'll start another on up. It's to quiet in here.

The Gaza/Palestine/Israel crisis. What's your stance/understanding on the matter and how do you feel about the current issues happening there?

The way I see it, both are as much to blame as each other.

Interesting thing I heard on the radio the other day, both sides of the conflict give civilians warnings that they are about to strike.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-and-leaflet-israeli-attackers-warn-gazans.html?_r=0

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/10/united-nations-most-gaza-casualties-were-warned-by-idf-to-leave-targeted-buildings-in-advance/

This is interesting from the second link.

Hamas, however, has officially urged residents to ignore the Israeli warnings to evacuate prior to Air Force air strikes, and, instead, called on them to serve as human shields.
 

Bazal

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There are no good guys in that conflict. In fact there are no good guys in the middle east.
 

Dragon2010

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What is happening there?

...I guess that's my stance then.

That's my stance, "What is happening there?". It's no skin off my bones. Affects me in no way what so ever.

But I know a fair bit on it considering I studied it for some time and keep up to date with the conflict. I have family in Lebanon too, so I always hear words from them about it.

The way I see it, both are as much to blame as each other.

Interesting thing I heard on the radio the other day, both sides of the conflict give civilians warnings that they are about to strike.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-and-leaflet-israeli-attackers-warn-gazans.html?_r=0

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/10/united-nations-most-gaza-casualties-were-warned-by-idf-to-leave-targeted-buildings-in-advance/

This is interesting from the second link.

I've read many similar things like that before. The fundamentalists take a very extreme view on it.

There's many things that don't get reported about this crisis. Why? It doesn't sell. I'm sure if you read the statistics, you'd see Palestine throwing just as many missiles to Israel, just with less catastrophic success.

There are no good guys in that conflict. In fact there are no good guys in the middle east.

I agree 100%. There is no good guys. The general populace are lead to believe that Gaza/Palestine 100% innocent, when that is simply not the case.

They've spilt blood, they've been violent, they've committed crimes. No ones hands are clean.
 

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Israel are definitely more in the wrong than the Palestinians.

Ultimately the Palestinians are an occupied people and it is understandable that the Palestinian people are aggrieved with their situation. The far-right government of Israel has no intent towards peace because of their own political reality. Conservative governments are much more likely to be elected if they create an 'other' and this is a tactic we see from conservatives around the world, especially in Australia on the asylum seeker issue. In addition, Israel and the United States have looked to obstruct any peaceful attempts by Palestine to reconcile the issue at a UN level.

However, this does not justify the actions of the Palestinian people. I am ultimately a virtual pacifist and I cannot morally justify nor support violence like us against any really oppression, perceived or real. In addition, I am of the view that peaceful movements are ultimately more successful in achieving their aims, especially in modern times. Just look at Martin Luther King, Gandhi and Mandela.

By demonstrating peacefully they can reclaim the moral high ground and if Israel react unfairly against peaceful demonstrations then eventually political pressure will be placed upon Israel for a two-state solution, from Europe.
 
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Misanthrope

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Stupid idea to out them there in the first place. Are we to return ancestral lands to every historic nation? Or just those with the money and power to campaign for it? I don't see the US scrambling to create an Iriquois nation, or us in a hurry to partition land out for the first Australians.

Of course, we might be more on board with such generosity if we were giving away somebody else's land. I'm sure Papua New Guinea won't mind us setting up a Koori nation, and the Iriquois can just have some of Mexico. They're probably not using it, anyway.

If you were going to manufacture a Jewish nation - which was a stupid precedent to set - I'd have thought taking the land from the German aggressors made more sense than dumping them in somebody else's yard for sentimental reasons.

I don't blame either party for their actions these days. Both were out into an impossible situation and are doing what they think necessary to protect lands they both feel they have a claim to.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Don't you live in the meth and murder capital of the United States? :sarcasm:

The murder rate has dropped by almost 50% in the last 15 year though.
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I've heard gunshots from our window now and then, and a kiwi we know walled out his front door last year, saw two people get shot and did a 180. Waited inside for a few minutes.
They were both dead before the ambulance got there.
 

Misanthrope

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The murder rate has dropped by almost 50% in the last 15 year though.
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I've heard gunshots from our window now and then, and a kiwi we know walled out his front door last year, saw two people get shot and did a 180. Waited inside for a few minutes.
They were both dead before the ambulance got there.

Jesus, I'm not sorry I missed a visit to that city beyond the obvious perk of being able to have a beer with you.

I'd maybe trek into town to see a Ravens game.

Maybe.
 

Dragon2010

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By demonstrating peacefully they can reclaim the moral high ground and if Israel react unfairly against peaceful demonstrations then eventually political pressure will be placed upon Israel for a two-state solution, from Europe.

They tried that originally and it failed. For many reasons. It's to late for peace now. They both want blood, they both want revenge, they both want the land - why? They both claim "Original right" to the land (Eretz Israel).

They both claim Jerusalem is theirs due to the symbolical religious ties they both share.

This is the problem with a system that has been failing for years. However, people only start to notice the issue now? Posting it on social media or sending them a few dollars won't save them from being bombed.

Stupid idea to out them there in the first place. Are we to return ancestral lands to every historic nation? Or just those with the money and power to campaign for it? I don't see the US scrambling to create an Iriquois nation, or us in a hurry to partition land out for the first Australians.

Of course, we might be more on board with such generosity if we were giving away somebody else's land. I'm sure Papua New Guinea won't mind us setting up a Koori nation, and the Iriquois can just have some of Mexico. They're probably not using it, anyway.

If you were going to manufacture a Jewish nation - which was a stupid precedent to set - I'd have thought taking the land from the German aggressors made more sense than dumping them in somebody else's yard for sentimental reasons.

I don't blame either party for their actions these days. Both were out into an impossible situation and are doing what they think necessary to protect lands they both feel they have a claim to.

Manufacture a Jewish nation in Palestine, Jews have historical links to the land - that's why it was done. But the way the UN originally planned it was wrong and not practical.

They should've come to a more proper agreement and helped them settle in a way, or area that would've avoided such bloodshed.

Again, they were offered other land but refused it, claiming that land (Eretz Israel) was theirs by right. The Palestinians claims the same. It's a prime example of two kids fighting over a turn of Xbox.

The murder rate has dropped by almost 50% in the last 15 year though.
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I've heard gunshots from our window now and then, and a kiwi we know walled out his front door last year, saw two people get shot and did a 180. Waited inside for a few minutes.
They were both dead before the ambulance got there.

Sounds like Granville. I've seen drive-bys and such. It's scary to be honest.
 

Misanthrope

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Manufacture a Jewish nation in Palestine, Jews have historical links to the land - that's why it was done. But the way the UN originally planned it was wrong and not practical.

Who gives a f**k? Should we hand parts of England to Italy because they have historical claims to it?

We'll hand over the NE US to an Indian nation, set up a new Persian Empire in Greece, and hand parts of India and Egypt to Macedonia while we're at it.
 
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