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Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

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Dragon2010

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Off to the gym I go, time to punish my self even more. The beauty of your dad's friend being your personal trainer. He can blast the shit out of you, and even your dad takes his side. Need to get in shape though.

If I die, avenge death.

I will give him credit, he makes a very good protein shake. It's actually incredibly delicious.
 

Misanthrope

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I woke up at 1.30pm today. Figure I'll send a few emails, eat lunch, and do some writing.

It's a hard life.
 

Misanthrope

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WHatever happened to your sitcom pilot @Misanthrope

That's a tale of two pilots.

The first, the original one that I probably talked about here, got filmed without me after I opted to spend a month in Thailand rather than spend my holiday in Nanjing filming with a director I hated.

It never got picked up, largely because his changes turned it into HIMYM with less attractive people.

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A production company approached us months later and asked us to put together a treatment for a 20 episode order with new characters but a similar concept. We did that, but it's been in limbo ever since. Doesn't look like it'll get made before I leave :(
 

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Mis, do you have a process when it comes to writing?

I find myself inundated with brilliant ideas for stories (which I have no intention of ever publishing, but I get a kick out of writing creatively), but I just jot down the basic plot and away I go.

It's refreshing, but I just cannot sit down and pre-plan a story, no matter how hard I try.

But by not doing so, the story is left open to gaping plot holes larger than originally creative ideas in James Cameron's head...every time I go back to read through my stories, I am having to edit bits and passages to make them connect more organically.

I've had writers tell me they put down in writing the basic skeleton of their work, and hen flesh it out with time. But I have also had writers tell me they just wing it, finish the story and edit it befor submitting it to the publisher.
 

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Mis, do you have a process when it comes to writing?

I find myself inundated with brilliant ideas for stories (which I have no intention of ever publishing, but I get a kick out of writing creatively), but I just jot down the basic plot and away I go.

It's refreshing, but I just cannot sit down and pre-plan a story, no matter how hard I try.

But by not doing so, the story is left open to gaping plot holes larger than originally creative ideas in James Cameron's head...every time I go back to read through my stories, I am having to edit bits and passages to make them connect more organically.

I've had writers tell me they put down in writing the basic skeleton of their work, and hen flesh it out with time. But I have also had writers tell me they just wing it, finish the story and edit it befor submitting it to the publisher.

No real process. I get ideas and I write. Those ideas, hopefully, inspire me with a further idea.

I literally have no ability whatsoever when it comes to plotting something out in advance. I have snatches of dialogue or characters or scenes I'd like to portray, and I link them up as I write.

I did finish a novel when I was much younger, but it was more of a semi-autobiographical treatise on love and being a young man, so didn't require the kind of planning or scope I'm working on now.
 

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No real process. I get ideas and I write. Those ideas, hopefully, inspire me with a further idea.

I literally have no ability whatsoever when it comes to plotting something out in advance. I have snatches of dialogue or characters or scenes I'd like to portray, and I link them up as I write.

I did finish a novel when I was much younger, but it was more of a semi-autobiographical treatise on love and being a young man, so didn't require the kind of planning or scope I'm working on now.

That's exactly how my "process" pans out, and despite the editing after the fact, it usually turns out to be pretty decent material.

It was impressed upon me that planning is crucial, but I'm just not a structured writer; rather, my creativity flows when I am motivated and inspired, and I find it makes more sense to get that down in writing and go back to edit it later.
 

Misanthrope

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That's exactly how my "process" pans out, and despite the editing after the fact, it usually turns out to be pretty decent material.

It was impressed upon me that planning is crucial, but I'm just not a structured writer; rather, my creativity flows when I am motivated and inspired, and I find it makes more sense to get that down in writing and go back to edit it later.

Hasn't George RR Martin said he hasn't really planned anything beyond a vague idea?
 

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Mis, do you have a process when it comes to writing?

I find myself inundated with brilliant ideas for stories (which I have no intention of ever publishing, but I get a kick out of writing creatively), but I just jot down the basic plot and away I go.

It's refreshing, but I just cannot sit down and pre-plan a story, no matter how hard I try.

But by not doing so, the story is left open to gaping plot holes larger than originally creative ideas in James Cameron's head...every time I go back to read through my stories, I am having to edit bits and passages to make them connect more organically.

I've had writers tell me they put down in writing the basic skeleton of their work, and hen flesh it out with time. But I have also had writers tell me they just wing it, finish the story and edit it befor submitting it to the publisher.

I find planning to be key. You need to know the end of the story to know how to get to it in a way. I know other writers work the other way (the story organically grows then ends just as surprisingly for them as for the reader) but I can usually tell the difference between a novel that is planned and one that is not.

To me, the creative process holds structure within it, rather than structure generating the creative process. The way my mind works is I have an idea and a story 'arc', which I then plan to meet the end chapter. My thought process goes:

* Idea / novel characteristics
* Arc of story
* Ending chapter

I then create the structure to incorporate all of those things.

I've not finished a novel, as I usually get distracted or start a new one, but I think the process isn't the problem; my weak will power is :lol:

That's exactly how my "process" pans out, and despite the editing after the fact, it usually turns out to be pretty decent material.

It was impressed upon me that planning is crucial, but I'm just not a structured writer; rather, my creativity flows when I am motivated and inspired, and I find it makes more sense to get that down in writing and go back to edit it later.

For me, planning is crucial as it involves the pace and flow of the book. You can't have long periods in the book where they are involved in dialogue heavy parts, or long periods where you're slashing and hacking. Its a process of metering out the different aspects to allow progression, character development and story consistency for reader enjoyment.

Hasn't George RR Martin said he hasn't really planned anything beyond a vague idea?

I thought it was the opposite; he knew where he was going, he knew the arc, he knew the ending, it was the in between bit he simply struggled with (much like me).
 

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Hasn't George RR Martin said he hasn't really planned anything beyond a vague idea?

In fact, he has - and I think his little works of literature might turn out selling a few copies.

I say that the idea that we need to formalise the whole concept and record it prior to writing is a load of tripe, but it was curiously mentioned to me as a valid starting point by three separate people, so I assumed it was the most legitimate way to go about the business at hand.
 

Rhino_NQ

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not much of a fiction fan but i'd give it a crack.

Always wanted to write something. Have plenty of good ideas but just never applied it
 

ek999

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I thought it was the opposite; he knew where he was going, he knew the arc, he knew the ending, it was the in between bit he simply struggled with (much like me).

I think that is how most writers are. I know JK Rowling had the ending planned from when she started writing the first Harry Potter book even though it took her 15 or so years to get there.

Personally, even though I read a lot, I suck at writing
 

muzby

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Would anyone here actually read anything written by anyone here?

i'd read my own work.. not sure if others would or not as my writing style generally follows one of two paths - either surrealist/absurdist or really dark.


i should combine the two styles and see what comes out..



and on a side note not related to my writing, sometimes i find it funnier when someone doesn't get one of my jokes than when they do get it..

just sayin :)
 
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