Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

[whall15]

It's much the same as the situation in the US. Left and right have become something of a mish-mash that tends more towards the right than the left.

We need that hard left to keep us honest.

The situation here is much better to be fair. They have a right-wing and a far-right wing.

This is an example of why I support someone like him over a generic Liberal senator. Whilst he may have nutty economic ideas and a borderline sexual obsession with guns according to that article I agree with him wholeheartedly on gay marriage (and indeed, marriage in general), marijuana and euthanasia and assuming he sticks to his principles I probably agree with him on other elements of drug policy, at least some elements of his foreign policy if not all, separation of church and state, privacy stuff and perhaps some other things I can't think of at the moment. That's not too bad.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Was JM actually arguing that owning a gun is a human right?

I really thought he was smarter than that

 

[afinalsin666]

I think it was closer to owning anything is a human right, and governing what a human can or can't own is shit.

 

[whall15]

Was JM actually arguing that owning a gun is a human right?

I really thought he was smarter than that

I'm pretty sure his argument is that everyone has a right to self-defence and that guns are a tool that should be used, in an unrestricted way to carry out that right.

 

[whall15]

I think the gun issue is a distraction from his truly abhorrent view of eradicating any form of social welfare, public education and healthcare.

 

[Misanthrope]

I'm pretty sure his argument is that everyone has a right to self-defence and that guns are a tool that should be used, in an unrestricted way to carry out that right.

I demand the right to own a dirty bomb for my own protection.

I think the gun issue is a distraction from his truly abhorrent view of eradicating any form of social welfare, public education and healthcare.

Ugh, didn't see that. f**k that guy.

 

[Joker's Wild]

If I cant ring my house with Claymores then what is the point of living in a free country I tells ya

 

[Misanthrope]

I just want to rig a dirty bomb to my future daughter's chastity belt. My little girl's purity should be a matter of national security.

 

[Drew-Sta]

They seem to do a pretty bang up job of getting them illegally Drew.

Yeah, I get that; I'm simply saying the numbers

No offence but your post seems a little ignorant. I'm not going to go into detail but it really isn't that hard. Just look at the gun crimes in Sydney for example, do you think they all went and applied for a gun license?

And not every criminal has a gun, who assumes that?

I have no problem with our gun laws. Was just pointing out to Drew that contrary to what seems to be his belief, criminals have easy access to illegal guns.

Shit, they don't even need to get imported ones these days.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/latest_releases?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMzg0OTYuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ%3D%3D

I think I went off a bit half cocked (hurr hurr) due to my shit day, so apologies. I'm simply implying that anyone who wants something will find a way to get it ala criminals with guns.

Gun laws prevent the opportunity for mass shootings. Relaxing those laws to 'allow citizens to arm themselves to defend against armed criminals' is my bone of contention. I just don't think its an issue.

I'm disappointed more people aren't in on my swords > guns argument.

I own two swords. I'm already prepared for this shit.

Duelling swords would be good. Provided the winner is bound by law to clean up after :sarcasm:

I read that article earlier and that's quite a bit over the top Drew. It's one senator for christ's sake and I'd prefer one Libertarian senator than one Liberal senator any day of the week.

Disagree entirely. Its guns now, but how long until health care and social services? This is my point - thin edge of the wedge type of stuff.

I think the gun issue is a distraction from his truly abhorrent view of eradicating any form of social welfare, public education and healthcare.

Agree.

 

[Dragon2010]

Off the subject for a second.. I am getting sick with the travel bug! I watch the planes take off and land from my balcony, and I get that knot in my heart and stomach. I wanna be on one! I love catching a flight at night. Uggh where to go

Get a world map. Throw a dart at said map. Go there.

If I cant ring my house with Claymores then what is the point of living in a free country I tells ya

Just make home made ones.

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I haven't read every comment (Can't be bothered reading every page). But I remember a few months back, when someone released a game on newgrounds about the Sandy Hook shooting, there's three modes to the game. Standard (As per the shooting), Gun Control mode (You use a sword instead of a gun) and Eagle Mode (Every teacher has a gun).

While controversial, and takes aim at a catastrophic, heartbreaking even in which innocent kids were targeted (Sandy hook was not a conspiracy, it was a tragedy. According to some internet morons, it was as a conspiracy).

But it raised an interesting point and aimed to show something. How both ends of the spectrum, gun control and loose laws can affect an outcome.

Of course, it's not a perfect comparison. Just an interesting point. For the record, yes, I played the game. Not to get a kick out of it, but to see what the uproar was about and see what this so called "message" of the game was.

 

[afinalsin666]

Gun laws prevent the opportunity for mass shootings. Relaxing those laws to 'allow citizens to arm themselves to defend against armed criminals' is my bone of contention. I just don't think its an issue.

That's the money shot right there. Criminals will always crim, but young Timmy that get's picked on can't unlock his dads cabinet and go on a rampage, and he also can't go to a supplier and pick one up. Because young Mr Trenchcoat isn't a real criminal, he's just crazy.

 

[afinalsin666]

I haven't read every comment (Can't be bothered reading every page). But I remember a few months back, when someone released a game on newgrounds about the Sandy Hook shooting, there's three modes to the game. Standard (As per the shooting), Gun Control mode (You use a sword instead of a gun) and Eagle Mode (Every teacher has a gun).

While controversial, and takes aim at a catastrophic, heartbreaking even in which innocent kids were targeted (Sandy hook was not a conspiracy, it was a tragedy. According to some internet morons, it was as a conspiracy).

But it raised an interesting point and aimed to show something. How both ends of the spectrum, gun control and loose laws can affect an outcome.

Of course, it's not a perfect comparison. Just an interesting point. For the record, yes, I played the game. Not to get a kick out of it, but to see what the uproar was about and see what this so called "message" of the game was.

Was vidjageems thet wus thu cauzz off et al! Ah sweer et, ruenin thu mahnd of thu youngin keeds!

The media are hilarious. They can stand out front with a bunch of serious faces and report on it, all the while making up completely random bullshit for clicks, but someone from a non traditional media trys to tackle it and everyone blows the f**k up.

 

[RHCP]

Defending your family with a gun is stupid. People do not break into peoples house and shoot them. It just doesn't happen to people who aren't involved in some kind of gangland scenario. The only people who would break into a families home, burglars, want to get in and out with as little fuss.

And thinking a gun can stop government tyranny? Maybe 200 years ago. Warfare is so far beyond that. We can't protect ourselves from a tyrannical government with trained soldiers, tanks, air power, drones and the like even if we all had the best guns money could buy.

 

[Misanthrope]

I haven't read every comment (Can't be bothered reading every page). But I remember a few months back, when someone released a game on newgrounds about the Sandy Hook shooting, there's three modes to the game. Standard (As per the shooting), Gun Control mode (You use a sword instead of a gun) and Eagle Mode (Every teacher has a gun).

While controversial, and takes aim at a catastrophic, heartbreaking even in which innocent kids were targeted (Sandy hook was not a conspiracy, it was a tragedy. According to some internet morons, it was as a conspiracy).

But it raised an interesting point and aimed to show something. How both ends of the spectrum, gun control and loose laws can affect an outcome.

Of course, it's not a perfect comparison. Just an interesting point. For the record, yes, I played the game. Not to get a kick out of it, but to see what the uproar was about and see what this so called "message" of the game was.

I did the same thing with a controversial Japanese game called Rapelay. It was... grim.

 

[Dragon2010]

I did the same thing with a controversial Japanese game called Rapelay. It was... grim.

Oh, THAT game. I've heard that one. That one caused mass controversy, but I'll admit, their defence managed to hold a decent battling position over the whole, "You can murder people in game, murder is a grim crime as well".

 

[Red Bear]

Posted this over on the NRL board

Maybe this is the appropriate thread to just put this up. Feel free to delete mods if it violates rules.

A good mate of mine is cycling from Brisbane to Wollongong at present and is a bit over halfway. He's raising money for Spinal Cure Australia, which seems pretty relevant for this thread, after another mate hurt himself a few years back and has unfortunately been in a wheelchair since. With the Alex McKinnon incident in mind the NRL have donated a signed Kangaroos jersey that'll be going to auction to help raise funds also, which is listed on the facebook page.
https://give.everydayhero.com/au/xander-3
https://www.facebook.com/xandercycle4spinalcure?fref=ts

If anyone has a spare few dollars about it's a great cause to donate to.

Obviously money isn't easy to come by, don't expect anything, just thought i'd put this out there, pretty good effort I reckon and a very good cause

 

[Misanthrope]

Something to get the ball rolling.

If you could only achieve one more goal in your life, what would it be?

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For me, it has and probably always well be, getting a novel published. For as long as I can remember it's been a dream of mine to see my name in print and share my characters and world with other people.

My issue has always been commitment to just getting it done. I have bursts of frenzied activity (like writing around 20,000 words in two weeks last month) but then get distracted by other things.

I'm hoping having 5-6 months in sleepy Ben Lomond with little to do will help me churn through the remainder so I can start either submitting it to publishers or looking into avenues for self publication.

 

[Dani]

Happiness.

 

[Dragon2010]

Something to get the ball rolling.

If you could only achieve one more goal in your life, what would it be?

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For me, it has and probably always well be, getting a novel published. For as long as I can remember it's been a dream of mine to see my name in print and share my characters and world with other people.

My issue has always been commitment to just getting it done. I have bursts of frenzied activity (like writing around 20,000 words in two weeks last month) but then get distracted by other things.

I'm hoping having 5-6 months in sleepy Ben Lomond with little to do will help me churn through the remainder so I can start either submitting it to publishers or looking into avenues for self publication.

Achieve my career goal. Bam. Done.

 

[Scott Gourley's Lovechild]

Find out precisely what I want to do as a career. I enjoy repping, but don't want to still be doing it in 40 years.