University Thread

[Cliffhanger]

I do not always react like this when there's a question in the exam that baffled me, this is the first time in six semesters of university I have reacted like this. I know how hard I worked and I know what I deserve. If I hadn't put the effort in, I wouldn't be reacting like this, but I did put the effort in.

I attended every lecture and every tutorial, read every stupid repetitive reading, bought and read the textbook and worked hard, I literally started work on my group presentation two months before it was due. Not fighting would be stupid, I have nothing to lose on this and a lot to gain, he's a reasonable person, but I am not going to let the fact that I respect him stand in the way of me getting the mark I deserve.

If you do not use all the resources you have to achieve what you want, then you just are not as ambitious as you ought to be.

 

[Mr Fourex]

:lol: I knew people at Uni who always reacted like that.

Good luck navigating life ;-).

:lol:

 

[Mr Fourex]

Feel like I might get kicked out of uni for this email to my lecturer

I hope this reaches you well.

The reason for my email is that I wanted to address with you a few concerns the other students and I had about the Aging Exam. I am aware that all the questions would have been carefully constructed and that it is your belief that upon completion of the weekly activities and readings we would be well equipped to complete the exam. However, after speaking to a lot of the students, I realised I was in the majority who felt completely ambushed by questions 31 and 32.

Had I not prepared for this exam, I would not be emailing you today, but that it is not the case. In fact, my preparation included revising all the readings during the study break and still, I was at a loss to complete those two questions. When I read a reading I take notes on the key points relating the weekly objectives. If information does not relate to the weekly objectives then I do not take it down in order to avoid information overload during revision, remembering the specific issues addressed in each article on osteoporosis- when there were several- is a big ask and the wise decision appeared to be to focus on the objectives which asked us to identify the causes, risk factors, diagnosis and role of exercise. The information we were asked to provide did not centre around this.

Further, none of the objectives said we had to learn the model showing the relationship between Muscle and CVD, this model is quite complex and memorising every aspect of it when we had not been warned to pay special attention to it is fairly difficult.

These final two questions were worth 10 marks each and account for 40 per cent of our mark for the exam and do not feel being able to answer these questions is a fair reflection on my understanding of the module.

Also, none of the options for question 12 were correct. It asked what would be a T score indicating osteoporosis and there was no less than -2.5 option.

In light of the issues I have addressed above, I ask that you consider altering the number of marks awarded for questions 31 and 32, if not excluding them from our final grade entirely and that question 12 be omitted from the exam mark.

I look forward to hearing from you and thank you for all your work this semester. I thoroughly enjoyed this subject and feel I have learned a lot.

:lol:.......I'm guessing your lecturer got about as far as here before he hit the delete button

which is a lot further than I would have.

 

[Monk]

This shit is gold :lol:

 

[Cliffhanger]

He's taught me for a semester, I know the type of person he is, he will take my email seriously.

I worked as journo for two years and conference producer for one and while the benefits are kind of negated due to the fact you forget how to write normally, and I have wasted most of my savings, those two jobs provided me with one thing and that is the ability to convince people to do things for me which are of little if any benefit to them. That email is tailored specifically tug at the right strings for him, based on his goals as a course coordinator and his personality style.

 

[bartman]

I know how hard I worked and I know what I deserve. If I hadn't put the effort in, I wouldn't be reacting like this, but I did put the effort in.

But in your post #77 you admit that one of the questions you're whinging about was based on one of the two readings for week 5 that you chose not to read. Reading 5 out of the 7 readings doesn't mean you deserve marks for an exam question that was based on one of the readings you skipped.

And the other question asked you to reproduce a complex model from another article, which presumably was another piece of work you chose not to focus your revision on? Them's the breaks - if you had a hard exam, they'll probably scale the marks as a whole.

I attended every lecture and every tutorial, read every stupid repetitive reading, bought and read the textbook and worked hard, I literally started work on my group presentation two months before it was due.

But in post #77 you said that you didn't read all of the articles?

Not fighting would be stupid,

Au contrere... you're talking yourself into forgetting that you skipped over the articles in question and got caught out.

I have nothing to lose on this and a lot to gain, he's a reasonable person, but I am not going to let the fact that I respect him stand in the way of me getting the mark I deserve.

You'll deserve whatever you get - that's how it works. If the exam results are low, they'll likely scale the course marks up to a bell curve - it's not in their interest to have the majority of the course fail - but to allow them to statistically engineer the grades it is in their interest to set a hard exam and catch people out.

If you do not use all the resources you have to achieve what you want, then you just are not as ambitious as you ought to be.

Or if you whinge about fair exam questions and marks you think you deserve, then perhaps you're more narcissistic than you ought to be?

 

[Cliffhanger]

I didn't read it again during revision, but I read it the week we were supposed to read it, the question wasn't based on the objectives, it was him trying to make sure we read every one of the reading, they didn't test our understanding.

The model is one of over 100 we came across, there's several different elements, he didn't tell us to describe it so he could ensure we understood the jist of it, he asked us to draw the whole thing. He provided us with no exam tips and no revision. All we got told was that if we could answer the unit objectives we'd do well in the exam. He also told us the final two questions would be worth five marks each and not ten. Therefore he mislead us on two counts.

It's not about being narcissistic, everybody I spoke to felt the same, there was no difference between the people who worked really hard and the bludgers, they all felt ambushed by that question and didn't even attempt it. It was not just about me.

 

[T.T]

why don't you at least wait until you see what mark you get before complaining.. you might be pleasantly surprised. most subjects do alot of scaling

 

[Twizzle]

I will keep fighting, I have pull with the chancellor of the university, f**k I will go straight to the Arch Bishop if I have, I don't care, I will burn bridges, I will f**k off people, in the end I would sell my soul for a distinction if I have to, I don't care.

He also told us the last two questions will be worth five marks each before the study break, they were worth ten each. He cannot say one thing and then change it without warning us. He f**ked up.

wow, is that you Spartacus ?

 

[Cliffhanger]

Nope, just an aggressive go getter who struggles to come to terms with things not going to plan.

 

[beave]

My old man was in the army, was living in Sydney and cruising along decently with school (grade 7-10). Old boy gets posted to Albury much to my disgust and protest ( i think i said something along the lines of 'f**k you and your stupid military bullshit, I hate you and your f**king job!!!!!!, very Dawson Creek-esque) my plans were to do a music or sound engineering degree or something along those lines.

The new school I went to Albury had no music program and I couldn't go to any other school so I basically just cruised through year 11 without really giving a shit, I had to do food technology instead of music FFS!!!!!!!. At the start of grade 12 I was just bumbling along and tbh, there is f**k all in the way of job prospects down that way, so quite ironically, after a year earlier and abusing my old boy about his job, went into the defence recruiting office down in melbourne and joined the RAAF as a bright eyed and highly nieve 17 year old. I have no regrets at all, I just wish I completed my HSC so I can commission. I don't really want to be a throwing spanners at planes for the rest of my life!!!!!!!! I looked into doing grade 12 up here but the only school that does it requires 11 and 12 to be done in the one year. Massive hours and with a 1 year old boy in my life, I want to enjoy the time with him and not be studying all weekend and 4 nights a week after work at school.

 

[dogslife]

Fourex comments about university... Didn't finish primary school

The lols this one brings

 

[Twizzle]

Nope, just an aggressive go getter who struggles to come to terms with things not going to plan.

then go get ém and dont listen to these softcocks

 

[T.T]

keep us posted on the reply, regardless if it backfires

 

[Mr Fourex]

He's taught me for a semester, I know the type of person he is, he will take my email seriously.

I worked as journo for two years and conference producer for one and while the benefits are kind of negated due to the fact you forget how to write normally, and I have wasted most of my savings, those two jobs provided me with one thing and that is the ability to convince people to do things for me which are of little if any benefit to them. That email is tailored specifically tug at the right strings for him, based on his goals as a course coordinator and his personality style.

If he does an about face, it would be IMO a sad indictment on the current crop of uni lecturers and indeed the system

All of your reasons are invalid

and I mean that honestly and with no malice intended.

You simply can't pick and choose what information to keep and to discard. It is not up to you to decide if it's applicable to the exam or not.......and for that matter, what marks the question/s are actually worth, score wise.

If your hanging your "education" on these types of issues, you really should be focussing more on what's in front of you rather than behind.

 

[Hooch]

Yeah I'm loving the melodrama. Uni exams are normally such boring, staid affairs.

Perhaps they'll make a movie of this one day?

 

[HowHigh]

why don't you at least wait until you see what mark you get before complaining.. you might be pleasantly surprised. most subjects do alot of scaling

Probably better to do it now so it doesn't look like she's just whinging about a bad mark.

Don't like the chances though.

 

[Cliffhanger]

No, it's up to him to decide and he decides this when he puts together the unit objectives. At the end of each week the goal is to be able to answer the objectives, it's that simple, neither of those questions were covered by the unit objectives.

Maybe I am being naive, but whenever I don't go as well as I expected at something I ask myself the question what can I do better next time? Looking back at that exam and my preparation, spending a lot of time focusing on that would have been bad time management. Focusing around the unit objectives is what makes sense, it's what our lecturers tell us to do when we study.

As I said, this is the first time I have ever contested one of my marks or argued against one of my tutors and I've gone from being on a HD to getting a credit in subjects before based on one assessment. I am fighting this because I genuinely believe he wronged us.

I am not going to think about it beyond this weekend, I have a month until my next two exams, so really tackling this problem will do me no harm. What's the worst that can happen? He gets offended? He shows it to the rest of the staff and they all mock me? Let's say he does get offended and wants me punished for it, he won't be able to, he's aware of my mental disorder, I have to regularly visit the university councillor, there is not going to disciplinary action against me, especially given what happened earlier in the week.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Let's say he does get offended and wants me punished for it, he won't be able to, he's aware of my mental disorder, I have to regularly visit the university councillor, there is not going to disciplinary action against me, especially given what happened earlier in the week.

So you're saying you're beyond reproach...because of your mental disorder?

What exactly is your "mental disorder"?

I may have missed you announcing this condition earlier. I have my ideas what it may be, although I'd only be guessing.

Still, are you really suggesting you're given special treatment....?

 

[Cliffhanger]

I have bipolar. No I am not saying I should get extra marks because of it, I am for some reason he believes I need disciplinary action for emailing him about the exam then it's going to be pretty hard for them to punish me.