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V. Holmes 2014

Inferno

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Well they're certainly putting a shitload of pressure on the young kid.

I like the sentiment, but I don't understand why it's aired publicly.
 

Weaponhead

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He needs to play the rest of the season to get a taste of what he needs to do in the off season. The kid has talent but needs to impose himself on the game to be the player he could be.
 
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Well they're certainly putting a shitload of pressure on the young kid.

I like the sentiment, but I don't understand why it's aired publicly.

because we are the sharks and do the reverse everyone else would.

We are George in Seinfeld where he did the opposite he always did
 

wibble

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I really want Holmes to get a shot too, but right at the moment our backline are performing.

Who would we leave out?

Wright is back to good form, Gagan deserves to stay, Leutele and Feki are building a combination...
 

Madsharkie

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Well they're certainly putting a shitload of pressure on the young kid.

I like the sentiment, but I don't understand why it's aired publicly.

Maybe it's Wade and Gal putting pressure on management to finally re-sign Val?
 

Weaponhead

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I really want Holmes to get a shot too, but right at the moment our backline are performing.

Who would we leave out?

Wright is back to good form, Gagan deserves to stay, Leutele and Feki are building a combination...

The reality is that none of our back line are stars. Holmes could be a star.

None of the backline players have a mortgage on their position so take your pick as to who to drop. I wouldn't lose any sleep over any of them but would drop Wright or Gordon to get Holmes in.
 

wibble

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The reality is that none of our back line are stars. Holmes could be a star.

None of the backline players have a mortgage on their position so take your pick as to who to drop. I wouldn't lose any sleep over any of them but would drop Wright or Gordon to get Holmes in.

He could be. But he might not be. I really liked what I saw of him in the 9s, but that hardly equates to first grade. We definitely do need to see how he goes in first grade.

When we have proven flops, like Ayshford, still in the team, and don't give someone like Holmes a go (they obviously went with Gagan, so deemed him more ready than Holmes), it is a very bad situation. The club can't drop players for a bad game, but for several in a row, then I think it is fair to give a young guy a chance.

But when they are not performing badly, I think you are on shaky team ground to drop a player just to give another non proven performer, a go. As long as we don't revert to protecting poorly performing incumbents at any cost, I am happy to say that players who are playing well (and the backs are all certainly playing well at the moment) should not be dropped for experimenting. Holmes will get a chance (we can't possibly keep the back 5 all injury free for too many games in a row), as long as the Sharks don't try to reinstate Ayshford or move Wright to wing or something stupid, I'm happy with him waiting.
 

Madsharkie

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I thought he was already signed for the next 2 years?

There was some talk during the week that we haven't actually re-signed him, which could be why we haven't seen him in the nrl yet.
Maybe cb4 can clarify if Val's signature is locked-up?
 

shaggs

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Gagan looks like he is physically ready. May not have the silky ball skills or speed of Holmes, but loves the tough stuff and the contact..
 
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I really want Holmes to get a shot too, but right at the moment our backline are performing.

Who would we leave out?

Wright is back to good form, Gagan deserves to stay, Leutele and Feki are building a combination...

Exactly.
At the moment, barring injuries, there is no one to drop, closest would be Flash but I font think that is feesible.

Next year is more the possibility, Gagan could be a handy centre with Flash and Val interchanging between wing and fullback.
 

Qld-Sharkie

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Exactly.
At the moment, barring injuries, there is no one to drop, closest would be Flash but I font think that is feesible.

Next year is more the possibility, Gagan could be a handy centre with Flash and Val interchanging between wing and fullback.

Wright hasnt signed for us so dump him for a few games, give Feki a go at center & Holmes on the wing...maybe let him swap with Gordon during the game the way Mini does for the roosters. The rest of the back line is the clubs future...except Wright.
 

madunit

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Yeah i'd drop wright. He's the one player in the backline not capable of performing much better than he already is.

Feki to centre is a great concept.

Is there another quality winger coming through to move to the wing when Gordon gets the A at the end of his contract & Holmes takes over at fullback?
 

RUBIKS

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Val still concerns me under the high ball.

If we were to fit him in, I agree with the Wright assessment.
 

Special K

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Id love for Feki or Gagan to get a run in the centres given that's where they have spent most of their careers.
 

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