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vs Broncos Rd 2

sup42

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Our attack looks terrible without Tomkin's.

Our defence at the back looks the same without Tomkin's.

RTS is better I'm sure.....just not seen how yet.....where Tomkin's slipped over RTS flat out misses one on one tackles.....so they are even there, let's see RTS chime in from the back like the pom then hey ,,? Or does great kick return meters supercede orchestrating Try's in an NRL team ?
 
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ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Surely McFadden has a rule about no backing up or supporting your team mates...because f**k me they were unenthusiastic.
Like Phil was saying, Johnson playing by himself can be part of the reason for no one around to trap Oates for the repeat set. Basically the chase didn't know where he's gonna kick and it didn't look like he talked to others as well. However the forwards did seem tired tonight.
 

ANTiLAG

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Hoffman had a shocker.

Robson only seems to be good at gathering grubbers and loose ball against the run of play.

Lolohea had butter hands, and those two Broncos running out of their own in goal were both massive plays that Boyd gambled by passing to Corey Oates on and paid big dividends for his winger and the Broncos.

Unfortunate injuries for the Warriors.

Gavet looks good rag dolling the opposition.

I question Luke's value to be honest, not being a typical 80 minute hooker.
 

ANTiLAG

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Like Phil was saying, Johnson playing by himself can be part of the reason for no one around to trap Oates for the repeat set. Basically the chase didn't know where he's gonna kick and it didn't look like he talked to others as well. However the forwards did seem tired tonight.

Not how I saw it. Defence focussed on Boyd, especially the first one.

Boyd gambled to Oates, and Oates paid off, both times. He is a big alert unit for a winger.

Those two avoided repeat sets were massive in influencing the result.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Our attack looks terrible without Tomkin's.

Our defence at the back looks the same without Tomkin's.

RTS is better I'm sure.....just not seen how yet.....where Tomkin's slipped over RTS flat out misses one on one tackles.....so they are even there, let's see RTS chime in from the back like the pom then hey ,,? Or don't s kick return meters supercede orchestrating Try's in an NRL team ?
Tompkins would've gone good for us at 6 I reckon but he's gone.

Full backs shouldn't be tackling anyway. In the NRL especially, if a full back makes a tackle outside the try line, the attacking team still gets some sort of result. Not excusing his miss tackles cos that's crap but it's a sign of a unstable Frontline.
 

Mr Angry

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NRL stats, cranky boy..
1 run for 8 metres....

Pretty sure that is not coach instruction.

Mutiny I tell yell.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Not how I saw it. Defence focussed on Boyd, especially the first one.

Boyd gambled to Oates, and Oates paid off, both times. He is a big alert unit for a winger.

Those two avoided repeat sets were massive in influencing the result.

We definitely needed the repeat set to gain and build some momentum.

I was referring to Matulino and the middles (8, 9, 10) and why they got there late. You'll notice Johnson is the 1st one to arrive and front the chip taker, no one's there cos I don't think the players are always aware of where he's chipping it.
 

ANTiLAG

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We definitely needed the repeat set to gain and build some momentum.

I was referring to Matulino and the middles (8, 9, 10) and why they got there late. You'll notice Johnson is the 1st one to arrive and front the chip taker, no one's there cos I don't think the players are always aware of where he's chipping it.

Even if Boyd bumped off Johnson, he was not getting past Matulino & co. I reckon Brandy got that slur on SJ wrong. Boyd rolled the dice and Oates came good. They were both really good Bronco's plays. I do not blame the Warriors too much for that. One day - that pass gets fumbled and it is try time.

Reckon if RTS tried that with Lolohea tonight, Lolohea would drop it. He dropped everything else.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Lolohea not a winger.

Back to the repeat set thing..we got the Storm next week...the Storm normally bat any in goAL chip or bomb dead but after tonight, they might fancy passing it to Taumoepeau to run it out..or even worse, Koroibete!
 
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Not how I saw it. Defence focussed on Boyd, especially the first one.

Boyd gambled to Oates, and Oates paid off, both times. He is a big alert unit for a winger.

Those two avoided repeat sets were massive in influencing the result.

It's how the back line is set up for the play, which I assume Johnson should be setting up or calling.
If the backline is deep you are looking at a running play not a kick through the line, if it's not on and not the last tackle pass and reset for next play, draw men left and go back right, try to create something.
The kick through is not a bad option if everyone is onboard for it.

We seem to have very little football brains out there running the show.
 

ANTiLAG

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It's how the back line is set up for the play, which I assume Johnson should be setting up or calling.
If the backline is deep you are looking at a running play not a kick through the line, if it's not on and not the last tackle pass and reset for next play, draw men left and go back right, try to create something.
The kick through is not a bad option if everyone is onboard for it.

We seem to have very little football brains out there running the show.

Maybe. I might rewind the tape later, (it may have been a 4th tackle opportunity that SJ saw) but even then, but even more likely if it was a 5th tackle option for now I'll opine that the new rules speeding the game up and reducing the interchange are possibly to blame for only 3 or 4 kick chasers than SJ not calling his play in advance.

Either way, both times the fullback was not getting out of the in goal - Boyd gambled, Oates was very strong and alert.
 
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ANTiLAG

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Lolohea not a winger.

Back to the repeat set thing..we got the Storm next week...the Storm normally bat any in goAL chip or bomb dead but after tonight, they might fancy passing it to Taumoepeau to run it out..or even worse, Koroibete!

Passing in the in goal may become a little bit more common accross the board the next few weeks as teams adjust to the fatigue causing rule changes.

What do you see Lolohea as? His future is not fullback - and he looked terrible for the Kiwis in the halves last year.

Do you actually see him in the halves?
 
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Maybe. I might rewind the tape later, (it may have been a 4th tackle opportunity that SJ saw) but even then, but more likely if it was a 5th tackle option for now I'll opine that the new rules speeding the game up and reducing the interchange are possibly to blame for only 3 or 4 kick chasers than SJ not calling his play in advance.

Either way, both times the fullback was not getting out of the in goal - Boyd gambled, Oates was very strong and alert.

Oates did well multiple times, even leaving SJ kick go dead with air swing.
Boyd could gamble because middle was lazy not chasing up.
Not sure if Boyd saw that or got lucky?
 

Skinner

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I have theory Young Shaun has cracked the shytes as they took the 7 off him ( whilst you all think it means nothing if f**king does) and played accordingly. This should be of great concern, why did he not run? It is the best part of his game...

He wants Cappy gone for doing it and will not play as runner until then. Young men can bring old men down when they consider to be to an injustice...he will not run until Cappy is gorn IMO....Somebodt tell Wally Lewis is an Immortal.

Gen Y sooks, FMD.

Always respect your views MrA, but I hope to hell you are wrong on this one.
 

Meth

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The spine is taking some time to click. Hopefully it will.

Prior to concussion, Ayshford was fine, but hardly looked likely to break the line.

I was surprised that the Broncos didn't direct their play to Kata's side when he was marking Roberts.

Hoffman had a shocker. Thompson on the other hand was sensational imo- apart from his effort in the Reed try. Really took care of Milford.

Losing two players in 2016 is pretty hard to come back from. I wish we capitalised more on our period of dominance in the first half. We should have been ahead at HT really.
 

Fast Eddie

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Love me some RTS, but he is already 0/2 on one on one try savers. Kind of stuff Tomkins got killed for.
 

Meth

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Also, bloody hell, get Lolohea off the wing. Absolutely wasted there!!
 

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