WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

If we are being honest every market in Australia or New Zealand is eminently doable or conceivable. The only question is whether the markets etc are worth the effort.

Perth or Adelaide we can’t get more than a good nieche market.

nz we can get a way bigger share of the market

afl has more cash than us whilst we dwarf nzru financially

I camt believe afl don’t look at nz as team 20 with the money they have

 

[The Great Dane]

I’d say their catchment is at least 500k in Sydney imo

And Perth's catchment would be 2.6mil. Adelaide 1.4mil. A second team in Melbourne or a third in Brissy would be over a million as well.

If we want to extended their catchments to their whole states (why not Warriors is all of NZ, and the Broncos used to be treated the same in Qld) then those numbers go up.

Sure it's a single factor analyse that's over simplified, but it's your single factor, and those markets are more appealing than NS (or any market/s available in NSW) in almost all other metrics anyway.

and most aren’t fans of other clubs

I am not arguing for this but if the bears wanted to play most of their games in north Sydney they could build a financially viable team that could compete with the rest of the nrl

2 games at nso will be enough to re engage lost fans and activate the north shore more

the return of the bears is going to be like the return of souths

Again I am an old Bears fan, and at this point that's a tiny group of people in real terms. It'd be under 10k who are/were active supporters, and a good portion of them are in no position to actively support the club anymore.

I have no doubt that the Bears re-entry into the NRL would be a big deal initially, but once the novelty wore off most of that initial fanfare would bleed away very quickly (especially if they weren't based in Sydney full time) and you'd be left with another tiny suburban club that has a lot of people who happily proclaim themselves to be fans of the club, but very few of which actually support the club financially.

Besides, the Bears fanbase is not as unified as many make out, with a not insignificant group of Bears fans whom are anti any relocation, partnership, whatever you want to call it. In other words they won't accept anything but the team playing out of NS oval, or the CC as the case may be, full time.

Also if we must go down the route of allowing the Bears back into the NRL (which should only happen under very strict circumstances that the Bears would never willingly agree to), then under no circumstances should the Bears be allowed to play games at NS Oval. If they're willing to relocate then relocate, none of this finger in each pie BS. That is just a recipe for disaster, which is why they pushing for it frankly, but that's it's own tangent.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Bears updated proposal

Proposal:
Reintroduce the Bears as the 18th commercially viable team and inject 220,000 avid fans and members back into the NRL, whilst also engaging with rural and regional heartland.

Summary:

The Bears national brand have a rich 113-year heritage and heartbeat following of die-hard Rugby League fans. A re-introduction into the NRL will engage the loyal club followers to invest their support back in the NRL after 20 years without a home team. Tribalism runs deep at North Sydney Oval with fans from Mt Isa to Wagga Wagga breathing red and black, with the chance to attract new fans nationwide. With such a strong brand and following, there will be obvious excitement for all Rugby League fans to hear the Bears aim to be in the NRL ranks once again.

This NRL goal has seen the structure of the club change, with the above model and astute group of people ready to deliver the NRL’s greatest story in the last 20 years. All the stakeholders have been considered and the time is now to bring all these passionate, loyal, and absolutely “tribal” fans on the journey.

Proposed on and off field season structure:

1. 24 games – 4-6 at NSO (grass roots tribalism), 12 games away and 6-8 games at regional destinations (Wagga, Tamworth, Dubbo, Coffs Harbour, Central Coast (as examples). The NRL to assist with direction to target large regional areas for Rugby League development.
2. Develop and initiate a clear program for country player pathways.
3. Marketing plan to target 220,000 avid Bears fans to attend games and get involved.
4. Media strategy to reintroduce well-known former playing legends to the Rugby League community.
5. Appointment of key social and cultural leader to shadow and guide players, whilst also having a strong presence in the public and player mentoring.
6. 2-4 players per year/per region to be awarded a scholarship to live in Sydney for 12 months and play football after school to further their Rugby League career.

A New Era, our concept for the NRL - North Sydney Bears

On Thursday 27th October, we released our initial roadmap to readmission to the NRL as the 18th team, this is something we have been working on this year and it's exciting to share this with all of our Members and fans. The first step on this journey was the unveiling of our refreshed Club logo...

www.northsydneybears.com.au

I admire their enthusiasm, but the hyperbole about 220k avid fans makes me wish they would go away. They're not going to have 220k avid fans fighting over season tickets. None of their games will be watched on TV by 220k avid Bears fans.

 

[Pippen94]

And Perth's catchment would be 2.6mil. Adelaide 1.4mil. A second team in Melbourne or a third in Brissy would be over a million as well.

If we want to extended their catchments to their whole states (why not Warriors is all of NZ, and the Broncos used to be treated the same in Qld) then those numbers go up.

Sure it's a single factor analyse that's over simplified, but it's your single factor, and those markets are more appealing than NS (or any market/s available in NSW) in almost all other metrics anyway.

Again I am an old Bears fan, and at this point that's a tiny group of people in real terms. It'd be under 10k who are/were active supporters, and a good portion of them are in no position to actively support the club anymore.

I have no doubt that the Bears re-entry into the NRL would be a big deal initially, but once the novelty wore off most of that initial fanfare would bleed away very quickly (especially if they weren't based in Sydney full time) and you'd be left with another tiny suburban club that has a lot of people who happily proclaim themselves to be fans of the club, but very few of which actually support the club financially.

Besides, the Bears fanbase is not as unified as many make out, with a not insignificant group of Bears fans whom are anti any relocation, partnership, whatever you want to call it. In other words they won't accept anything but the team playing out of NS oval, or the CC as the case may be, full time.

Also if we must go down the route of allowing the Bears back into the NRL (which should only happen under very strict circumstances that the Bears would never willingly agree to), then under no circumstances should the Bears be allowed to play games at NS Oval. If they're willing to relocate then relocate, none of this finger in each pie BS. That is just a recipe for disaster, which is why they pushing for it frankly, but that's it's own tangent.

Best thing bears have going for them is north shore of Sydney. Old mate wants them to be based elsewhere - great

 

[Wb1234]

And Perth's catchment would be 2.6mil. Adelaide 1.4mil. A second team in Melbourne or a third in Brissy would be over a million as well.

If we want to extended their catchments to their whole states (why not Warriors is all of NZ, and the Broncos used to be treated the same in Qld) then those numbers go up.

Sure it's a single factor analyse that's over simplified, but it's your single factor, and those markets are more appealing than NS (or any market/s available in NSW) in almost all other metrics anyway.

Again I am an old Bears fan, and at this point that's a tiny group of people in real terms. It'd be under 10k who are/were active supporters, and a good portion of them are in no position to actively support the club anymore.

I have no doubt that the Bears re-entry into the NRL would be a big deal initially, but once the novelty wore off most of that initial fanfare would bleed away very quickly (especially if they weren't based in Sydney full time) and you'd be left with another tiny suburban club that has a lot of people who happily proclaim themselves to be fans of the club, but very few of which actually support the club financially.

Besides, the Bears fanbase is not as unified as many make out, with a not insignificant group of Bears fans whom are anti any relocation, partnership, whatever you want to call it. In other words they won't accept anything but the team playing out of NS oval, or the CC as the case may be, full time.

Also if we must go down the route of allowing the Bears back into the NRL (which should only happen under very strict circumstances that the Bears would never willingly agree to), then under no circumstances should the Bears be allowed to play games at NS Oval. If they're willing to relocate then relocate, none of this finger in each pie BS. That is just a recipe for disaster, which is why they pushing for it frankly, but that's it's own tangent.

So which tiny suburb do the bears represent ?

mosman ?

chatswood ?

lane cove ?

Asquith ?

balmoral ?

clifton gardens ?

oh look I just literally named the richest suburbs in Sydney with basically unlimited wealth

if I were in your shoes I would dust off my old north Sydney bears heritage jersey and go back to nso for the annual derby vs manly

I bet if reconnects you again

 

[Perth Red]

Everything about that press release is bullshit. The idea or proposal is about a thousand times worse than the mendacious number of fans they came up with. Seriously, who would come up with this nomad arrangement and propose it with a straight face.

Redcliffe?

 

[Perth Red]

Um..you know you overstate fan base in Perth too?!

In your opinion

 

[Pippen94]

In your opinion

Reality

 

[Pippen94]

So which tiny suburb do the bears represent ?

mosman ?

chatswood ?

lane cove ?

Asquith ?

balmoral ?

clifton gardens ?

oh look I just literally named the richest suburbs in Sydney with basically unlimited wealth

if I were in your shoes I would dust off my old north Sydney bears heritage jersey and go back to nso for the annual derby vs manly

I bet if reconnects you again

No. North of parramatta river up to & including central coast

 

[Colk]

So which tiny suburb do the bears represent ?

mosman ?

chatswood ?

lane cove ?

Asquith ?

balmoral ?

clifton gardens ?

oh look I just literally named the richest suburbs in Sydney with basically unlimited wealth

if I were in your shoes I would dust off my old north Sydney bears heritage jersey and go back to nso for the annual derby vs manly

I bet if reconnects you again

No. North of parramatta river up to & including central coast

Yeah too bad there is already 10 sides in NSW and we are over saturated. We’ll just ignore that shall we

 

[Wb1234]

No. North of parramatta river up to & including central coast

Castle hill ? Nah

pawwa

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah too bad there is already 10 sides in NSW and we are over saturated. We’ll just ignore that shall we

How did you get ten ? Did you count newy as one of them

I said above they shouldn’t get a team in Sydney

but if they did it would be stronger than the sharks and manly right away

 

[Colk]

How did you get ten ? Did you count newy as one of them

I said above they shouldn’t get a team in Sydney

but if they did it would be stronger than the sharks and manly right away

Newcastle is in NSW so yes.

We don’t need another team in NSW. It’s last on the list and a completely retrograde step.

 

[Gobsmacked]

WA Bears has to be the dumbest shit I've seen.
Literally all they want is a Bear ?... they need to see a Bears on a logo in the NRL
Perth ? Sure but a Bear right? Yes a Bear

They have to be the dumbest supporters ever.
Bring back the Bears!
South Island Bears?
Fine, so long as it's a Bear

 

[Gobsmacked]

I guess when the Brisbane Bears become Lions, they lost all of their faculties...
No Bears

 

[Wb1234]

Newcastle is in NSW so yes.

We don’t need another team in NSW. It’s last on the list and a completely retrograde step.

Oh you did say nsw my bad

 

[flippikat]

Roosters pull out of Bears partnership leaving NS in no man’s land from 2023.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-set-to-return-to-nsw-cup-in-2023-ending-their-relationship-with-bears/news-story/0321afc4f4df3e5d30f1e3de852f8137

All we need now is an expansion team to bid in red & black (heck, may as well be Christchurch), and they can neatly disband & cede their district to Manly and/or Roosters.

 

[flippikat]

If the people of nz choose to like league more it’s nothing to be ashamed of lol

every other sport has had a crack at league markets why shouldn’t league have a try too In theirs

i don’t think we are much chance against afl in wa or Adelaide but against union in nz … doable

The thing to keep in mind here is that Union & League have a lot more in common than AFL & League.. so it's perfectly reasonable to expect a 2nd NZ NRL team to do alright, because the general public already has a point of reference.

 

[flippikat]

WA Bears has to be the dumbest shit I've seen.
Literally all they want is a Bear ?... they need to see a Bears on a logo in the NRL
Perth ? Sure but a Bear right? Yes a Bear

They have to be the dumbest supporters ever.
Bring back the Bears!
South Island Bears?
Fine, so long as it's a Bear

"They don't care where, so long as it's Bears"

 

[Pippen94]

Castle hill ? Nah

pawwa

Pennant hills was norths. Castle hill parra, so yeah north of parra river