WA BEARS

[Pippen94]

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing is stopping the people who live in that area from supporting the roosters.

Except north shore is not eastern suburbs.

 

[The Great Dane]

Yes they would be stronger than Perth or Adelaide

and they would have zero issues getting corporates

indeed they would attract corporates who have largely shunned they game

eg Citibank as sponsor

There's no helping you if you honestly believe this stuff.

I mean you're a level of delusional that I can't even comprehend if you seriously think Citibank's (and/or other similar multinationals) marketing department is boycotting the NRL, or something similar, because the Bears aren't in first grade anymore...

and Sydney doesn’t have too many teams that’s just lazy thinking

It has teams in the wrong areas an leaving other parts neglected

Fixing that problem doesn't require adding more teams to the mix. In fact, if anything adding more teams would only make fixing that problem more complex.

All that needs to happen is the current clubs need to be rearranged into a more sensible layout, and there are clubs perfectly placed to takeover NS without the reintroduction of the Bears.

But again, this is a whole other debate.

 

[Colk]

Except north shore is not eastern suburbs.

You make it seem like people can’t follow a side from an area which they don’t live in. That is by the way complete nonsense

 

[The Great Dane]

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing is stopping the people who live in that area from supporting the roosters.

He means in an official sense.

The Bears still run their own juniors and have actively sought to prevent other teams from growing and marketing themselves within their catchment in the past. They've even gone through official channels within the NRL and NSWRL to get them to step in and tell other clubs to piss off on occasion.

That can't be allowed to continue if any other team is going to grow their support base within Northern Sydney in a targeted manner.

 

[Pippen94]

Apparently too hard to travel 10km to watch nrl for people in NS lol. The sooner the nrl puts the bears out of their misery and hand the area to the roosters the better for the game in Sydney.

You make it seem like people can’t follow a side from an area which they don’t live in. That is by the way complete nonsense

It's less likely for reasons already stated many times in this thread

 

[Gobsmacked]

Melbourne is massive but the areas the sides are located are tiny in comparison. Carlton, Richmond North Melbourne, Collingwood ect .
You think only people in Richmond follow Richmond?
You don't need to be from an area to support a club, maybe 100 years ago but not today.
Hopefully you live within a commute to see your chosen club play...
North Sydney is within commute to 6 clubs off the top of my head
But North Sydney demands a team

Cowboys supporters travel 400km ffs

If you're only interested in following league when it's on your front door, then you're not a supporter we will miss.

 

[MugaB]

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing is stopping the people who live in that area from supporting the roosters.

Other than they are scum... like i said before, its like asking your neighbors to follow manly, or the eels, when you know they are a different breed, im guessing your a tigers supporter... lets say hypothetically tigers are no more, thru their own demise, your friend says thats all good, gonna start following the bulldogs now, come along...

 

[Wb1234]

There's no helping you if you honestly believe this stuff.

I mean you're a level of delusional that I can't even comprehend if you seriously think Citibank's (and/or other similar multinationals) marketing department is boycotting the NRL, or something similar, because the Bears aren't in first grade anymore...

Fixing that problem doesn't require adding more teams to the mix. In fact, if anything adding more teams would only make fixing that problem more complex.

All that needs to happen is the current clubs need to be rearranged into a more sensible layout, and there are clubs perfectly placed to takeover NS without the reintroduction of the Bears.

But again, this is a whole other debate.

Nobody said sponsors like Citibank are avoiding the nrl now

I said having a club like the bears will help attract them

you’ve pretty agreed with all the points I’ve made about the bears value and standing as a club

all the more reason why their addition to Perth will be a benefit and not a disaster as you d claimed

 

[Wb1234]

Melbourne is massive but the areas the sides are located are tiny in comparison. Carlton, Richmond North Melbourne, Collingwood ect .
You think only people in Richmond follow Richmond?
You don't need to be from an area to support a club, maybe 100 years ago but not today.
Hopefully you live within a commute to see your chosen club play...
North Sydney is within commute to 6 clubs off the top of my head
But North Sydney demands a team

Cowboys supporters travel 400km ffs

If you're only interested in following league when it's on your front door, then you're not a supporter we will miss.

Just cut and paste south’s for norths and post this in early 2000

and then see how it turned out

 

[Wb1234]

He means in an official sense.

The Bears still run their own juniors and have actively sought to prevent other teams from growing and marketing themselves within their catchment in the past. They've even gone through official channels within the NRL and NSWRL to get them to step in and tell other clubs to piss off on occasion.

That can't be allowed to continue if any other team is going to grow their support base within Northern Sydney in a targeted manner.

It’s so good the bears did that

that’s tribalism

 

[Perth Red]

Another struggling Sydney club avg’ing 12k, that‘ll get us a $600million tv deal lol

 

[The Great Dane]

Nobody said sponsors like Citibank are avoiding the nrl now

I said having a club like the bears will help attract them

What exactly is it that the Bears have that makes you think that there're more attractive to Citibank than any of the NRL sides?

Is it just that Citibank sponsored them back in the 90s? If so I'll just laugh in your face.

you’ve pretty agreed with all the points I’ve made about the bears value and standing as a club

No I haven't...

all the more reason why their addition to Perth will be a benefit and not a disaster as you d claimed

What's all the more reason? That in your head Citibank, and a bunch of other multinationals, are just shaking with anticipation to throw millions of dollars at the Bears?

You've created a fantasy mate.

It’s so good the bears did that

that’s tribalism

That's not tribalism, that's undermining the future potential of the sport not only in Northern Sydney, but nationally, out of spite, delusions of grandeur, and entitlement.

Not only has it hurt the prospects of the sport as a whole, but at times it's hurt the prospects of juniors from the region on an individual basis by making the pathway for them to the NRL significantly harder than the average junior from other parts of Sydney. The Bears have literally done unimaginable damage to the sport they proclaim to love, in the region they proclaim to love, out of an attitude of "if we can't have it then nobody can", and that's disgraceful.

Thankfully, the club isn't currently as bad in those aspects has it has been in the past.

 

[The Great Dane]

Just cut and paste south’s for norths and post this in early 2000

and then see how it turned out

What do you reckon the odds are of an A list actor and his rich mates coming in to bail the Bears out? What do think are the odds that the Bears would allow themselves to be sold to said actor even if he did appear?

People with hindsight like to make out that keeping the Rabbitohs around was the obvious choice, but that's the thing about hindsight, it's 20/20, and nobody at the time could have predicted that Russel Crowe would come in and turn the club into the entity it is today. Nor could they have predicted, after years of defying substantive change, that the club would have accepted the change necessary to become what they are today.

 

[flippikat]

Except north shore is not eastern suburbs.

Ahh, but the top tier team is branded & marketed as the SYDNEY Roosters.

A re-allocation of Norths territory to them doesn't conflict with that - and it's the top tier team that's their shop front.

You could still concievably have the odd game played by the Roosters at North Sydney Oval, in an old Norths jersey (maybe one of their trials?).

 

[flippikat]

What do you reckon the odds are of an A list actor and his rich mates coming in to bail the Bears out? What do think are the odds that the Bears would allow themselves to be sold to said actor even if he did appear?

People with hindsight like to make out that keeping the Rabbitohs around was the obvious choice, but that's the thing about hindsight, it's 20/20, and nobody at the time could have predicted that Russel Crowe would come in and turn the club into the entity it is today. Nor could they have predicted, after years of defying substantive change, that the club would have accepted the change necessary to become what they are today.

Exactly. Some people here forget how woeful Souths were once they were re-admitted - and without the massive capital injection from Crowe & Holmes a Court (and substantial modernizing of their business model) they would likely have stayed a very average club.

 

[flippikat]

It’s so good the bears did that

that’s tribalism

Keeping their district as a developmental "dead end" because they cling onto the hope that someday they'll get a spot again at the big table?

Nah, that's just selfish.

 

[Perth Red]

It's less likely for reasons already stated many times in this thread

Carlton has a population of 6,800 and 81k members! The idea you can only atract fans from your Immediate area is nonsense.

 

[Wb1234]

What exactly is it that the Bears have that makes you think that there're more attractive to Citibank than any of the NRL sides?

Is it just that Citibank sponsored them back in the 90s? If so I'll just laugh in your face.

No I haven't...

What's all the more reason? That in your head Citibank, and a bunch of other multinationals, are just shaking with anticipation to throw millions of dollars at the Bears?

You've created a fantasy mate.

That's not tribalism, that's undermining the future potential of the sport not only in Northern Sydney, but nationally, out of spite, delusions of grandeur, and entitlement.

Not only has it hurt the prospects of the sport as a whole, but at times it's hurt the prospects of juniors from the region on an individual basis by making the pathway for them to the NRL significantly harder than the average junior from other parts of Sydney. The Bears have literally done unimaginable damage to the sport they proclaim to love, in the region they proclaim to love, out of an attitude of "if we can't have it then nobody can", and that's disgraceful.

Thankfully, the club isn't currently as bad in those aspects has it has been in the past.

Because ns is currently the second cbd in Sydney

because they got Citibank before when other clubs were getting the local chemist

why are you ignoring the areas they represent. They come from probably the wealthiest areas in Australia

 

[Wb1234]

What do you reckon the odds are of an A list actor and his rich mates coming in to bail the Bears out? What do think are the odds that the Bears would allow themselves to be sold to said actor even if he did appear?

People with hindsight like to make out that keeping the Rabbitohs around was the obvious choice, but that's the thing about hindsight, it's 20/20, and nobody at the time could have predicted that Russel Crowe would come in and turn the club into the entity it is today. Nor could they have predicted, after years of defying substantive change, that the club would have accepted the change necessary to become what they are today.

How Jim Jefferies and Brad Pitt could resurrect North Sydney Bears NRL

Aussie stand-up comedian Jim Jefferies is a household name in the United States and now he aims to use his profile, cash and Hollywood contacts to bring back the North Sydney Bears

www.dailymail.co.uk

Pretty good odds I’d say

funnily enough he doesn’t look 70 either

 

[Wb1234]

Keeping their district as a developmental "dead end" because they cling onto the hope that someday they'll get a spot again at the big table?

Nah, that's just selfish.

Odds are they are about to get the next nrl license

dolphins did similar stopping the titans using their branding because they wanted it for an nrl spot

and here we are

and roosters and manly aren’t exactly clubs you would want trying to develop juniors least of all in areas that were never theirs