WA BEARS

[MugaB]

Doesn’t work as well with you

if he posted it then sure

I have my own buttons... go find your own to push

 

[MugaB]

Ok it took 67 years to be a semi decent rugby league team after news ltd pumped tens of millions into them, the nswrl bailed them out a few times and they sold their development land for a fraction of its worth lol

People say that about the storm too... what does the NRL have to show for it?? And I'm talking about junior participation, not some media Metro market BS, the ARLC sets the rules, and creates the agenda to keep the game on an upward swing for profitability, Player depth, and club sustainability, for all their BRANDS, we pump out juniors in NSW and QLD and NZ and feed them to unviable clubs that wouldn't be able to survive if the game still had its catchment rules... not that im advocating for it... but what that does is it projects how well the club is growing from a participation point of view... clubs go well, generally they had the best players living in their surrounding area... St.george mighty 11 year streak.. Parramattas 4 premierships, Penriths recent 3 GFs
All had a tight knit group of local talent, with a sprinkle of outsiders... what are we getting from Melbourne? Sunshine Coast Storm, why not just promote the Falcons and be done with it...
Don't get me wrong, i am 100% behind keeping the storm, i know they are valuable, but the player pool is not growing because they exist...

Now to the point.... what are we getting back from Cronulla..... 7k of juniors... thats absurd, for a semi decent rugby league club.... the area is full of sporty rich families, think of Penrith and its boasted juniors, BUT rich... Penrith comps are full kids from the streets, and the county towns... the shire is ALL disposable income families... anyone who thinks sharks aren't useful needs to get a head assessment asap

 

[Wb1234]

People say that about the storm too... what does the NRL have to show for it?? And I'm talking about junior participation, not some media Metro market BS, the ARLC sets the rules, and creates the agenda to keep the game on an upward swing for profitability, Player depth, and club sustainability, for all their BRANDS, we pump out juniors in NSW and QLD and NZ and feed them to unviable clubs that wouldn't be able to survive if the game still had its catchment rules... not that im advocating for it... but what that does is it projects how well the club is growing from a participation point of view... clubs go well, generally they had the best players living in their surrounding area... St.george mighty 11 year streak.. Parramattas 4 premierships, Penriths recent 3 GFs
All had a tight knit group of local talent, with a sprinkle of outsiders... what are we getting from Melbourne? Sunshine Coast Storm, why not just promote the Falcons and be done with it...
Don't get me wrong, i am 100% behind keeping the storm, i know they are valuable, but the player pool is not growing because they exist...

Now to the point.... what are we getting back from Cronulla..... 7k of juniors... thats absurd, for a semi decent rugby league club.... the area is full of sporty rich families, think of Penrith and its boasted juniors, BUT rich... Penrith comps are full kids from the streets, and the county towns... the shire is ALL disposable income families... anyone who thinks sharks aren't useful needs to get a head assessment asap

The storm weren’t chosen by the arl

indeed keeping Perth instead of them may have been a better option

but in terms of juniors produced the storm are a waste of time

it’s no coincidence that the decline of the qld nrl sides came at a time when the storm got stronger

and I think the local catchment thing should be brought back in some fashion

so at least 3 players from your nrl top 17 each week have to be from your catchment

rugby league was built on local teams played by local players

 

[MugaB]

The storm weren’t chosen by the arl

indeed keeping Perth instead of them may have been a better option

but in terms of juniors produced the storm are a waste of time

it’s no coincidence that the decline of the qld nrl sides came at a time when the storm got stronger

That's not very true.... it might seem like a co incidence, but every team has Queenslanders playing in their squad, broncos were too dumb to see cameron smiths potential, billy slater and greg inglis played for norths devils, and got a contract under bellamy... hell greg inglis is from Kempsey, that is NOT in Qld... even if we all sing a song to say it is...
Glen Lazarus played for Canberra, Brisbane and Melbourne, but he aint no Queenslander...
As much i want to believe storm are the issue with titans, cows and bronx being inept.. its basically because they were inept... imagine letting go of jamal foggerty and proven halfback to play in ACT and then see him screaming to the finals as soon as he returns from injury for the raiders... but litterally the season before Titans were 2 seconds away from progressing to the semi finals after a narrow loss to the roosters... inept roster management is the cause of not only the Queensland sides, any sides that are coming from the bottom 6 in the comp... titans should have made finals last year.. who trades a halfback these days... they are as rare as three breasted women

 

[Wb1234]

That's not very true.... it might seem like a co incidence, but every team has Queenslanders playing in their squad, broncos were too dumb to see cameron smiths potential, billy slater and greg inglis played for norths devils, and got a contract under bellamy... hell greg inglis is from Kempsey, that is NOT in Qld... even if we all sing a song to say it is...
Glen Lazarus played for Canberra, Brisbane and Melbourne, but he aint no Queenslander...
As much i want to believe storm are the issue with titans, cows and bronx being inept.. its basically because they were inept... imagine letting go of jamal foggerty and proven halfback to play in ACT and then see him screaming to the finals as soon as he returns from injury for the raiders... but litterally the season before Titans were 2 seconds away from progressing to the semi finals after a narrow loss to the roosters... inept roster management is the cause of not only the Queensland sides, any sides that are coming from the bottom 6 in the comp

Smith was on a contract at the broncos but his path to first grade was blocked by someone

broncos might not have got them all but guys like smith cronk slater sure would’ve made the broncs a premiership side

 

[MugaB]

Smith was on a contract at the broncos but his path to first grade was blocked by someone

broncos might not have got them all but guys like smith cronk slater sure would’ve made the broncs a premiership side

Not sure who, although luke priddis did win in 2000, penrith picked him up for 2003, where he also won a premiership, so it cannot be him... either way ineptness from the broncos, now that we are looking back at it... same as folding Perth Reds, same as merging the bears... lottsa regrets really, inept, inept, inept

 

[Wb1234]

Not sure who, although luke priddis did win in 2000, penrith picked him up for 2003, where he also won a premiership, so it cannot be him... either way ineptness from the broncos, now that we are looking back at it... same as folding Perth Reds, same as merging the bears... lottsa regrets really, inept, inept, inept

Broncos are useless

seaplod handed Sam Walker to the roosters

now they’ve given Walters a 2 year extension when it’s clear he’s a dud

 

[MugaB]

Broncos are useless

seaplod handed Sam Walker to the roosters

now they’ve given Walters a 2 year extension when it’s clear he’s a dud

Who this guy.......noooooooo

 

[Wb1234]

Who this guy.......nooooooooView attachment 70359

Broncos have their version of Alex Ferguson and they kicked him out twice

and just like utd they are in the wildness without him

 

[MugaB]

Is there a line on the TAB, for the next coach that get arsed/rissoled

 

[MugaB]

Broncos have their version of Alex Ferguson and they kicked him out twice

and just like utd they are in the wildness without him

Who?
Sorry i only speak NRL

 

[Wb1234]

Is there a line on the TAB, for the next coach that get arsed/rissoled

You would have to think

1. griffen
2. O’Brien
3. Hollbrook

 

[Perth Red]

People say that about the storm too... what does the NRL have to show for it?? And I'm talking about junior participation, not some media Metro market BS, the ARLC sets the rules, and creates the agenda to keep the game on an upward swing for profitability, Player depth, and club sustainability, for all their BRANDS, we pump out juniors in NSW and QLD and NZ and feed them to unviable clubs that wouldn't be able to survive if the game still had its catchment rules... not that im advocating for it... but what that does is it projects how well the club is growing from a participation point of view... clubs go well, generally they had the best players living in their surrounding area... St.george mighty 11 year streak.. Parramattas 4 premierships, Penriths recent 3 GFs
All had a tight knit group of local talent, with a sprinkle of outsiders... what are we getting from Melbourne? Sunshine Coast Storm, why not just promote the Falcons and be done with it...
Don't get me wrong, i am 100% behind keeping the storm, i know they are valuable, but the player pool is not growing because they exist...

Now to the point.... what are we getting back from Cronulla..... 7k of juniors... thats absurd, for a semi decent rugby league club.... the area is full of sporty rich families, think of Penrith and its boasted juniors, BUT rich... Penrith comps are full kids from the streets, and the county towns... the shire is ALL disposable income families... anyone who thinks sharks aren't useful needs to get a head assessment asap

Storm are not there to increase the player pool, they are there to earn the NRL money, and they do that very well. The likes of Cronulla, Manly, Penrith et al that add little money wise to the NRL are in to provide the player pool. Different clubs have different areas of value to the NRL.

 

[Perth Red]

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The storm weren’t chosen by the arl

indeed keeping Perth instead of them may have been a better option

but in terms of juniors produced the storm are a waste of time

it’s no coincidence that the decline of the qld nrl sides came at a time when the storm got stronger

and I think the local catchment thing should be brought back in some fashion

so at least 3 players from your nrl top 17 each week have to be from your catchment

rugby league was built on local teams played by local players

Its not the 70's anymore lol. All sport was built on local players (except American ones with drafts). Reality is professional sport has changed and players now get paid big money and will sign with team they think offers them best chance of winning and best $'s.
Just another reason why Jnr RL participation responsibility needs to sit with the state bodies, not with LC/NRL clubs beyond the 16+ elite pathway programs.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Again with the exaggerations. No one has said perth will be the savior of the NRL, or that the NRL even needs saving!

What is being said by most is that if the game wants to expand beyond its traditional heartlands then Perth is the obvious choice as club 18. It is a large wealthy city with a very supportive Govt, proven interest in rugby league, interested backers, gives a good tv time slot and adds to the tv metro reach which has proven to be valuable in tv negotiations.

Beyond that the rest is just fantasy made up by you and Pippen.

If the game remains stagnant while its competitors grow then it will become a second tier sport. The big TV deals will dry up.

 

[Perth Red]

If the game remains stagnant while its competitors grow then it will become a second tier sport. The big TV deals will dry up.

We literally just saw Fox and ch9 low ball NRL in order to have the funds to bid big for AFL. You'd be pretty stupid not to understand where this is heading unless NRL grows.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

We literally just saw Fox and ch9 low ball NRL in order to have the funds to bid big for AFL. You'd be pretty stupid not to understand where this is heading unless NRL grows.

Fumbleball will be able to raise their salary cap in 2025 and will have academies all over Logan. The future doesn't look bright for rugby league.

 

[The Great Dane]

People say that about the storm too...

Storm are not there to increase the player pool, they are there to earn the NRL money, and they do that very well. The likes of Cronulla, Manly, Penrith et al that add little money wise to the NRL are in to provide the player pool. Different clubs have different areas of value to the NRL.

It isn't, or rather shouldn't be, either or.

Under the current system it should be the responsibility of all clubs to both make money and develop players. Now you can argue that the system is stupid, outdated, and desperately needs modernising in many regards, and I'd agree with you, but that doesn't change the fact that the system is what it is.

In the case of the Storm, the only reason they haven't developed more local talent, or junior numbers in Melbourne/Victoria, is because they didn't start making serious attempts to do so until within roughly the last half decade. They would have developed many more Victorian players by now had they started seriously investing in junior development in 1998 instead of 2018, but instead decided to go the easy route of focusing on poaching and developing players mainly from Qld, and who can blame them considering the success it's brought them.

Moneyball (and systematic salary cap cheating lol) works. Don't hate the player, don't even hate the game, work to change the game for a better outcome for everybody.

On the other hand, it's very difficult to justify the persistent financial failure or underachievement of many of the clubs, both in Sydney and outside of it. It's also hard to justify the NRL, and it's predecessors, not doing more about that persistent failure and underachievement, but that is a tangent that I'm not really interested in discussing at the moment.

 

[MugaB]

You would have to think

1. griffen
2. O’Brien
3. Hollbrook

Who the f**k is no.2

 

[MugaB]

Storm are not there to increase the player pool, they are there to earn the NRL money, and they do that very well. The likes of Cronulla, Manly, Penrith et al that add little money wise to the NRL are in to provide the player pool. Different clubs have different areas of value to the NRL.

Absolute Bullshìt... every team should be and will be developing players or the likes of Melbourne/Perth/Adelaide/Roosters won't have any players to poach from... this is not upto Penrith to solve this equation or Cronulla or only one area.. this is why i keep telling you the other clubs will not vote in a bid from perth, if its not an already established club that they'll be able to pick the eyes out of