WA BEARS

[Colk]

Several times you've reacted negatively to suggestions that RL would be more prosperous if we promoted enjoyment of the game over the simple appeal of winning.

I drew a comparison between a proposed 20-team NRL and the 20-team EPL, pointing out that the latter generates and maintains interest at both ends of the table. Fighting like hell to escape relegation from the EPL is on a different planet from avoiding the NRL wooden spoon.

In a comp without promotion/relegation the inordinate emphasis on winning is a threat to NRL ambition. Can you doubt that if the Dolphins had lost their first two games the media would have gone into Phil Gould dismal overdrive bemoaning a botched expansion?

Wouldn't be true, but it could dampen the enthusiasm for further growth.

The first part is a little obtuse. I don’t know what examples you are referring to?

Is it about my feelings on Leichhardt? If it is, I just don’t think it serves the game well but most particularly the Tigers

Putting aside the quality of the ground and the limited possibility of the government severely pumping money into the ground to make it better, how does playing at Leichhardt help the Tigers? They play at multiple grounds, how does that help their brand/identity? How is the club going to compete with other clubs if they are blanketed by those with modern stadia and better corporate facilities?

Sometimes reality is cold but reality is still reality. Also, the history and tradition of the ground just doesn’t disappear into some sort of void because it is not played in the NRL. Look at Henson Park and NSO, they are popular in NSW Cup for those who want a nostalgia trip.

Also, promotion/relegation won’t work in Australia.

 

[The Great Dane]

Bear's sent this out to members today, thought some might find it interesting-https://mailchi.mp/northsydneybears...ial-orders-game-footage-10115929?e=5ac2f56739

NRL PROPOSE 20 TEAM COMP | WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE BEARS?

With the Dolphins two wins from two games in their inaugural year in the NRL and the start of the AFL season, the NRL found an opportune time last weekend to grab some headlines and propose a 20-team competition. This sparked great interest among the media and rugby league fans, with the big question being asked who will be those teams? It's no secret, the Bears want back in and we want back in badly. As a Club we have approached the bid process slightly differently by bolstering the club financially, working hard to de-risk our bid and working closely with the NRL regarding locality or partnership opportunities to ensure it is an easy choice for the NRL when it comes to decision time.

As Billy Moore has stated many times recently, the club's non-negotiables are important and at the forefront of all our NRL readmission discussions. Those non-negotiables are our red & black colours, our club logo with the Bear head, we play selected games at the home of the Bears North Sydney Oval, and lastly the license sits with the NSDRLFC. These non-negotiables have not and will not change as we progress in discussions.

On Tuesday, our Chairman Daniel Dickson spoke on SEN radio with Matty White to discuss the Bears positioning post the 20-team announcement. Daniel stated that if push comes to shove the club will be ready to kick off back in the NRL for the 2025 season. Lessons learnt from the Dolphins NRL bid was to ensure a great coach is secured, strengthen our player pathways to build our own roster, not just relying on catching a big fish player, and utilise proven successful bid negotiation organisations. Matty White was impressed with the Bears processes around the bid discussions stating, "it seems to me that the North Sydney Bears are doing exactly what the Dolphins did, they are crossing all the t's and dotting all the i's before they get the phone call". He went on to say that he had researched the Bears board of directors and that they are "very experienced businessmen, who have a lot of experience in the world of sport and rugby league itself and in the local area. An incredibly passionate and experienced board".

So, what's next? Our NRL Bid Committee continues to remain front of mind with the NRL, we continue to secure ongoing financial backing, we continue to strive for on-field success in our current teams and we continue our conversations with partner organisations while not locking ourselves into one final direction until the NRL confirms.

Here's Dickson's interview from this morning as well-
They're reaffirming those 'non-negotiables' over and over.

 

[Colk]

Bear's sent this out to members today, thought some might find it interesting-https://mailchi.mp/northsydneybears...ial-orders-game-footage-10115929?e=5ac2f56739


Here's Dickson's interview from this morning as well-
They're reaffirming those 'non-negotiables' over and over.

We should give the next licence to the Newton Jets and relocate them just for laughs.

In all seriousness though, the idea that a team targeting one area should play games in another is ridiculous.

 

[greenBV4]

Bear's sent this out to members today, thought some might find it interesting-https://mailchi.mp/northsydneybears...ial-orders-game-footage-10115929?e=5ac2f56739


Here's Dickson's interview from this morning as well-
They're reaffirming those 'non-negotiables' over and over.

Considering they would be playing a good chunk of their away games in Sydney regardless, and that NSO is barely fit for purpose as an NRL ground it's baffling they are sticking so hard to that non negotiable, and quite telling as to how they would treat the expansion market they would supposedly be representing if they got in

It's annoying because if done right it could work, the brand and colours is strong, and a club properly dedicated to the expansion market could have a partnership and academy with NS in the lower grades, and would also have to ability to sell away memberships to the 5-8 or so away games around Sydney for any old bears fans who decide to jump on board (although I doubt there would be many left and willing)

 

[greenBV4]

Have they stated if they would adopt the new markets location name or would they be a second team representing "the"?

 

[MugaB]

Have they stated if they would adopt the new markets location name or would they be a second team representing "the"?

Knowing the bears, it most probably Norths Bears in christchurch (the most southern town in the region, maybe even the globe actually) lol

 

[Perth Red]

and there’s why no WA consortium should entertain the idea


aAs Billy Moore has stated many times recently, the club's non-negotiables are important and at the forefront of all our NRL readmission discussions. Those non-negotiables are our red & black colours, our club logo with the Bear head, we play selected games at the home of the Bears North Sydney Oval, and lastly the license sits with the NSDRLFC. These non-negotiables have not and will not change as we progress in discussions.

 

[MugaB]

and there’s why no WA consortium should entertain the idea


aAs Billy Moore has stated many times recently, the club's non-negotiables are important and at the forefront of all our NRL readmission discussions. Those non-negotiables are our red & black colours, our club logo with the Bear head, we play selected games at the home of the Bears North Sydney Oval, and lastly the license sits with the NSDRLFC. These non-negotiables have not and will not change as we progress in discussions.

But you know they will deep down like WAAAYYYYY down.... you know it

 

[Pneuma]

An NRL bid by a club that references AFL in its first paragraph of its media release? Frigging idiots. Bears please just go away.

 

[Perth Red]

But you know they will deep down like WAAAYYYYY down.... you know it

I very much doubt it, the last point should not be acceptable to a WA club. As a fan it’s not acceptable to me.

 

[Colk]

Bring the Jets back. F*** the Bears. You bring in the hipsters and Jets is a better logo anyway

 

[greenBV4]

and there’s why no WA consortium should entertain the idea


aAs Billy Moore has stated many times recently, the club's non-negotiables are important and at the forefront of all our NRL readmission discussions. Those non-negotiables are our red & black colours, our club logo with the Bear head, we play selected games at the home of the Bears North Sydney Oval, and lastly the license sits with the NSDRLFC. These non-negotiables have not and will not change as we progress in discussions.

Or the NRL for that matter if they decide they actually want a Perth team

It's clear as day the Bears have no intention to make Perth or any other city their home, and just see it as an opportunity to leech off to regain a license then ditch at the first opportunity

Who do they think would be supporting them in Perth while going around calling NSO the home of the bears

 

[Colk]

Or the NRL for that matter if they decide they actually want a Perth team

It's clear as day the Bears have no intention to make Perth or any other city their home, and just see it as an opportunity to leech off to regain a license then ditch at the first opportunity

Who do they think would be supporting them in Perth while going around calling NSO the home of the bears

1000%. It’s a ridiculous idea.

Put them with the Pacific

 

[Wb1234]

Bear's sent this out to members today, thought some might find it interesting-https://mailchi.mp/northsydneybears...ial-orders-game-footage-10115929?e=5ac2f56739


Here's Dickson's interview from this morning as well-
They're reaffirming those 'non-negotiables' over and over.

God forbid you ever play poker against anyone

 

[Perth Red]

They are coming across as a parasite rather than as a symbiot.

 

[Pneuma]

God forbid you ever play poker against anyone

It would be a very very very very long game.

 

[Wb1234]

Or the NRL for that matter if they decide they actually want a Perth team

It's clear as day the Bears have no intention to make Perth or any other city their home, and just see it as an opportunity to leech off to regain a license then ditch at the first opportunity

Who do they think would be supporting them in Perth while going around calling NSO the home of the bears

Imagine instead of cutting down to four Sydney teams it actually goes up by 0.5

happy days

 

[Perth Red]

“Our” colours
“our” logo
“the home” of the bears

f**k them let them wither away in what will end up the third tier of the sport soon

 

[Wb1234]

It would be a very very very very long game.

The other guy would die of old age as Dane starts off one of his long lectures

 

[greenBV4]

Imagine instead of cutting down to four Sydney teams it actually goes up by 0.5

happy days

Oh how very rugby league