WA BEARS

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Will a license fee be a requirement of existing clubs when their renewals come up?

To steal a phrase from Balki Bartokomous, "Of course it won't, don't be RIDICULOUS..."

 

[Matt_CBY]

The NRL is saying that because they are trying to give off the impression have options

The NRL has lot more options than Cumins.

I've already said PR and Cummins are friends in RL, of course he's invested

I wasn’t talking you to fake wrestler from yesteryear.

 

[Wb1234]

‘Blindsided’: Inside bombshell Bears call... and what comes next in NRL expansion race

‘Blindsided’: Inside bombshell Bears call... and what comes next in NRL expansion race

www.foxsports.com.au

According to this the Sydney kings guy and Paul kind were added as investors to the bid at a late stage, something that caught the Arlc by surprise given no mention before

 

[Matt_CBY]

I know exactly whats happening and trust mePlan B aint gonna happen.

You’ve said that multiple times before and been wrong multiple times before.

Rest of it TLDR

 

[Kurt Angle]

Without pvl there would be no expansion

I get that. I'm not disputing expansion, there's a lot of goodwill created in the past 2 years and V'Landys has played a role in that

He’s doing no damage to the Perth bid it’s all self inflicted because Cummins is an idiot

I can tell you right now, the Eagles and Dockers commercial managers ringing every major company in Perth right now, leading with "don't waste your time with the NRL,they're a mess and will fail like last time" and already sucking sponsorship dollars away,even if the bid gets up

It would have been better to settle this behind closed doors,then V'Landys take the Bears and all their sponsors to Vegas in 2028, permanently entrenching sponsorship riches into the Bears

 

[BuffaloRules]

‘Blindsided’: Inside bombshell Bears call... and what comes next in NRL expansion race

‘Blindsided’: Inside bombshell Bears call... and what comes next in NRL expansion race

www.foxsports.com.au

According to this the Sydney kings guy and Paul kind were added as investors to the bid at a late stage, something that caught the Arlc by surprise given no mention before

Cumins says in the Fordham interview that they were included in the bid document …

i gotta be honest …I don’t get the problem with this?

 

[Kurt Angle]

The NRL has lot more options than Cumins.

Not in WA they don't

A board based in Cammeray will fail

I wasn’t talking you to fake wrestler from yesteryear.

Ouch

Well, there's no coming back from that

 

[Matt_CBY]

Is that last paragraph actually true ?

They talk like each other and have the same business IQ.

Good at Bullshitting their way through things. No substance.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I get that. I'm not disputing expansion, there's a lot of goodwill created in the past 2 years and V'Landys has played a role in that


I can tell you right now, the Eagles and Dockers commercial managers ringing every major company in Perth right now, leading with "don't waste your time with the NRL,they're a mess and will fail like last time" and already sucking sponsorship dollars away,even if the bid gets up

It would have been better to settle this behind closed doors,then V'Landys take the Bears and all their sponsors to Vegas in 2028, permanently entrenching sponsorship riches into the Bears

I agree with doing this behind closed doors part …

But should they have just agreed to pay the fee after they were told too?

They are acquiring something of value right?

 

[Wb1234]

Cumins says in the Fordham interview that they were included in the bid document …

i gotta be honest …I don’t get the problem with this?

The article I posted says the same

The issue was the arl had never heard about them being involved till they opened up the bid docs

Kind was effectively sacked from the nrl and the other issue was why they couldn’t source any Perth based investors

 

[Matt_CBY]

facts my dear boy, facts. Straight from the horses mouth. Consider yourself privileged, I'm giving you some insider info not many know.

Who is the horse?

Put up or shut up

 

[Perth Red]

‘Blindsided’: Inside bombshell Bears call... and what comes next in NRL expansion race

‘Blindsided’: Inside bombshell Bears call... and what comes next in NRL expansion race

www.foxsports.com.au

According to this the Sydney kings guy and Paul kind were added as investors to the bid at a late stage, something that caught the Arlc by surprise given no mention before

I dont know how, Cumins had been talking about east coast investors for months and they were identified in the bid document.

 

[Wb1234]

I get that. I'm not disputing expansion, there's a lot of goodwill created in the past 2 years and V'Landys has played a role in that


I can tell you right now, the Eagles and Dockers commercial managers ringing every major company in Perth right now, leading with "don't waste your time with the NRL,they're a mess and will fail like last time" and already sucking sponsorship dollars away,even if the bid gets up

It would have been better to settle this behind closed doors,then V'Landys take the Bears and all their sponsors to Vegas in 2028, permanently entrenching sponsorship riches into the Bears

I don’t think the eagles or dockers are struggling with getting investors on board an afl dominated state

This is exactly how pvl negotiated with the Australian govt over png and they fell into line

 

[Matt_CBY]

saddling the club with an unreasonable demand that cripples its financial position from day 1?

If the consortium would have been cripple just because of that, they aren’t the business people we want in our sport.

 

[Wb1234]

I dont know how, Cumins had been talking about east coast investors for months and they were identified in the bid document.

Just tell your mate Cummins to hurry up and pay that 20 million

Bc I guarantee you if an nz bids does pony up the cash they will be next with png

 

[Kurt Angle]

Cumins says in the Fordham interview that they were included in the bid document …

i gotta be honest …I don’t get the problem with this?

It a red herring, to guise as overall failings

The gig is
* You failed due to one point (license fee)

Vs

* You failed due to multiple points (license fee, mystery board members, etc,etc)

The latter makes it look systemic

A solitary point means (settle that one thing and move on, and for God's sake do it in private)

This is V'Landys flaw all over

 

[Perth Red]

I agree with doing this behind closed doors part …

But should they have just agreed to pay the fee after they were told too?

They are acquiring something of value right?

Depends, matter of principle or practicality?
If they've got $30mill to get the club up and running do you want to see 2/3rds of that disappear out the door? that probably makes the start up unviable. 'Just' finding another $20mill is no small thing I wouldnt think?

 

[Perth Red]

Who is the horse?

Put up or shut up

not for you to know. But fair to say it was someone who does know.

 

[Perth Red]

Just tell your mate Cummins to hurry up and pay that 20 million

Bc I guarantee you if an nz bids does pony up the cash they will be next with png

Good on them, if a NZ bid can front up $50mill cash and the NRl doesnt want $450mill WA tax payer investment then go for it.

 

[Kurt Angle]

I don’t think the eagles or dockers are struggling with getting investors on board an afl dominated state

They won't be doing it because they short of a coin

They'll be doing is to harm a competitor

This is exactly how pvl negotiated with the Australian govt over png and they fell into line

I don't think V'Landys flashed dirty laundry in public accusing DFAT or Albo of being skint