WA BEARS

[BuffaloRules]

I think its fair to say brand matters, kids growing up in that region are probably not dreaming of playing for Storm or Roosters or whoever was NS NRL link up at that time. I guess the idea is to reinvigorate the Bears brand with those younger generations and have them dreaming of one day playing for the 'insert name here' Bears in the NRL.

Thats your opinion I guess … I think many kids are not juniors of the clubs they end up playing for these days and are not necessarily looking to play with the club they supported as a kid .,,

 

[Wb1234]

Thats your opinion I guess … I think many kids are not juniors of the clubs they end up playing for these days and are not necessarily looking to play with the club they supported as a kid .,,

Except for the most successful club in nrl history

The one everyone is trying to copy now and is the benchmark for rugby league excellence

 

[Perth Red]

So you expect to fund more referees, coaches, ground hire to grow that 4k junior base to say 10-20k that it would take to have a decent FG squad of locals.

Run Matts, Ball and Flegg for the amount Penrith spend on their pathways?

That is what you and your tight ass pawnbroker mate don't understand.

The NRL clubs have seperate arms funding junior Leagues in their area.

If you add up what the NSW Clubs spend combined

Do the same for QLD

It is way more than $12m a year.

That is before you get to the Pathway spends

These districts have pools of refs and so on from their history.

Starting up new districts in WA doesn't have that

Which NRL club has 20k jnrs? Canterbury-Bankstown junior rugby league district is home to 3300 registered players, Cronulla 5,500, Parramatta has 5700 participants and Penrith boasts around 9000.

I think our current 4,400 can be realistically increased to 7-8k in 10 years. That would make it around the second biggest club Jnr catchment region in NRL. Add the reinvigorated NS catchment into that and your potentially up challenging Penrith region numbers.

We arent trying to develop players for 10 clubs (NSW) or 4 clubs + Melbourne (Qlnd) lol. We need enough talent coming through for one club!

$6mill a year funding is more than adequate to have WA players coming through for the Western Bears in reasonable numbers.

$4mill for NRLWA from 50/50 WA govt and NRL
$2mill a year for elite pathways funded by the club (same as all clubs)

 

[BuffaloRules]

Except for the most successful club in nrl history

The one everyone is trying to copy now and is the benchmark for rugby league excellence

I’m glad that works for them …

Melbourne have gone down another path and had just as much if not more success .., and the Storm’s path is going to be a lot closer to what the Perth Bears will look like rather than Penriths

 

[Perth Red]

I’m glad that works for them …

Melbourne have gone down another path and had just as much if not more success .., and the Storm’s path is going to be a lot closer to what the Perth Bears will look like rather than Penriths

Id hope we do it differently. Storm and NRLVic have only just started to get serious about producing local talenet and growing Vic participation and its already started bearing fruit.

One of the strengths of the Western Bears bid was its ties with NRLWA and the grassroots game and the commitment to ensure a Bears NRL team had a significant benefit to the local game. It would be a great shame if that was no longer the case.

 

[Iamback]

I’m glad that works for them …

Melbourne have gone down another path and had just as much if not more success .., and the Storm’s path is going to be a lot closer to what the Perth Bears will look like rather than Penriths

Not so sure.

Perth want a team full of locals. That is more like Penrith

 

[Pippen94]

This battle has been raging for days. I'll settle it: Perth red is wrong again!!

 

[BuffaloRules]

Id hope we do it differently. Storm and NRLVic have only just started to get serious about producing local talenet and growing Vic participation and its already started bearing fruit.

One of the strengths of the Western Bears bid was its ties with NRLWA and the grassroots game and the commitment to ensure a Bears NRL team had a significant benefit to the local game. It would be a great shame if that was no longer the case.

Yeah … but if they are successful you will take it any way you can get it right ?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

So a kid growing up in North Sydney is more likely to play NRL because there is a pathway to a Perth club.

You're off your f**king tits. And that mindset from V'landys and co is the biggest flaw in this move to saddle the bears with WA. Little rich Johnny from f**king Asquith isn't sitting there dreaming of making the big time in a club 6000 kms away, he's thinking if that club in Bondi or Belmore or even bloody Brookvale makes me an offer then I'm signing.

Do you know what I've noticed about actual pathways? No merkin will use them if there's a shorter way to the destination.

 

[Pippen94]

I’ve never argued anything like that, what I’m am saying, and is very clear to anyone with an ounce of common sense, is the $300mill+ of govt investment to upgrade hbf park is for the benefit and purpose of the nrl club and makes up a part of the funding the govt is willing to spend to make a nrl club happen. Including building a rugby league a centre and funding a shs program.
No nrl club none of those things happen.


whats hilarious is the hissy fit people on here have when govt’s build stadiums that afl uses who are now saying this stadium build isn’t for nrl lol

You are wrong. All the predictions you make turn out wrong. All the numbers you post are made up.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Not so sure.

Perth want a team full of locals. That is more like Penrith

It’s great to have a goal

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah … but if they are successful you will take it any way you can get it right ?

For sure, no fan cares where someone was born when they are lifting that trophy!
But the hope is new teams coming in can add to the the player pool and create quality depth, not dilute it. I also think in places like WA seeing local kids make it to the top can inspire other kids and gives good publicity for the game locally.

 

[BuffaloRules]

So a kid growing up in North Sydney is more likely to play NRL because there is a pathway to a Perth club.

And don’t forget that the Union kid from North Sydney will now be more inclined to jump ship to the NRL so he can play for a Perth team

 

[Iamback]

It’s great to have a goal

I am sure that will change now they know the cost

 

[Perth Red]

And don’t forget that the Union kid from North Sydney will now be more inclined to jump ship to the NRL so he can play for a Perth team

Potentially, NS Bears would be first to admit they dont have the direct path and investment at the amount needed to entice the best kids to their set up. They dont run a flegg side for example and their SG ball and HM teams generally do very poorly. I am told thats because the good local kids are more likely to sign for Parra or Bulldogs etc where the systems, facilities and pathways are better. The theory goes a WA Bears will change that for NS region. If true or not I guess only time can tell.

 

[Iamback]

Which NRL club has 20k jnrs? Canterbury-Bankstown junior rugby league district is home to 3300 registered players, Cronulla 5,500, Parramatta has 5700 participants and Penrith boasts around 9000.

I think our current 4,400 can be realistically increased to 7-8k in 10 years. That would make it around the second biggest club Jnr catchment region in NRL. Add the reinvigorated NS catchment into that and your potentially up challenging Penrith region numbers.

We arent trying to develop players for 10 clubs (NSW) or 4 clubs + Melbourne (Qlnd) lol. We need enough talent coming through for one club!

$6mill a year funding is more than adequate to have WA players coming through for the Western Bears in reasonable numbers.

$4mill for NRLWA from 50/50 WA govt and NRL
$2mill a year for elite pathways funded by the club (same as all clubs)

Because we are talking about the whole state not just a district and that is the numbers you need to run an NRL team from only that pool of players

 

[Perth Red]

Because we are talking about the whole state not just a district and that is the numbers you need to run an NRL team from only that pool of players

We are talking a population needed to feed ONE NRL club so that it can produce first grade players. Clubs are currently doing that with 4-6000 Jnrs in their region. there is no reason between WA having 7k say and NS that that isnt enough for the club to be producing players. 20k lol.

 

[Canard]

Oh but north Sydney can play out of Perth, but firehawks can't play out of Adelaide (for example) ...please

What??
What language is this?
Where you drunk when you wrote this?

 

[Perth Red]

What??
What language is this?
Where you drunk when you wrote this?

We are back in the world of 'What If' lol

 

[Iamback]

We are talking a population needed to feed ONE NRL club so that it can produce first grade players. Clubs are currently doing that with 4-6000 Jnrs in their region. there is no reason between WA having 7k say and NS that that isnt enough for the club to be producing players. 20k lol.

What club ONLY recruits from their area?