WA BEARS

[Perth Red]

Oh ye of little faith Fantastic news. It's a fait accompli now and I will get a membership, all the way from the real South Wales, for Christmas if they're available.

What I think scuppered the '10/10' bid was how much the PNG secured and it opened the NRL's eyes to whether they are selling themselves short with the other bids.

Is there a categorical list of extras which has been attained by holding out from accepting the original bid?

Not really though todays media would suggest it is:
the money for the interim training facilities (the WB bid was going to cover that now govt)
The offer to match any grassroots funding nrl puts in to nrlwa
paying for some development officers
free stadium use for undisclosed period

the rest; stadium, cofe, schools program had already been committed according to previous reports.

the western bears bid had committed to fund 4 snr positions in NS pathways programs, don’t know if nrl is now picking up that cost or bears have lost out on that?

 

[T to the T]

Not really though todays media would suggest it is:
the money for the interim training facilities (the WB bid was going to cover that now govt)
The offer to match any grassroots funding nrl puts in to nrlwa
paying for some development officers
free stadium use for undisclosed period

the rest; stadium, cofe, schools program had already been committed according to previous reports.

the western bears bid had committed to fund 4 snr positions in NS pathways programs, don’t know if nrl is now picking up that cost or bears have lost out on that?

Appreciate some of the costs WA Gov is now picking up you state would have been paid by the consortium but weren't there questions around how liquid they really were? Was the stadium also going to be 27k? Also was RL scheduled to be on the high school curriculum? That seems to be a big get which you can't place a value on.

I think overall, the negotiations will do both the NRL and RL in WA better off. I found it rather unedifying PvL ridiculing the original bid, it set some people off too (understandable as I appreciate how invested you are in this) but you could see this was the opening gambit in a bigger picture. Once again, I think once PvL realised what he could get out of governments through the PNG bid, then the game slightly changed for WA and NZ2 also. This is the way PvL operates and gets results, which will hopefully also bode well for NZ2 and the next set of TV rights.

 

[Gobsmacked]

WA is the whole state tho, and they can represent it all, by calling it Western or west coast, by calling it Perth, it will alienate those on the outskirts or in places like Broome etc

I'd rather WA too but in all seriousness.. Panthers are followed by people out of Penrith, all Victorians would say Storm is their team and you certainly don't have to live in Saint George or Illawarra to follow Dragons.
It won't really make any difference.

 

[bad boy bubby]

A club based in Perth being set up and backed financially by the NRL and WA Govt means one thing,
There's a guarantee that it will not fail. This team will be there for the duration.
The best outcome possible for Rugby League fans in WA. Great news.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

WA is the whole state tho, and they can represent it all, by calling it Western or west coast, by calling it Perth, it will alienate those on the outskirts or in places like Broome etc

If you call it west coast you alienate all those people who don't live on the coast like Kalgoorlie etc. And what about the good people of Esperance who technically live on the south coast of Australia.

The West East North South Bears has a great ring to it. Although I would call them the Super Bears just so you're not alienating the kids.

 

[Matt_CBY]

Funnily enough PVL fanboys have long laughed at this situation for Aussie Rules in Western Sydney, but will now want to tongue punch Pete's fartbox about copying the model.

And who are these fanboys exactly?

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Not really though todays media would suggest it is:
the money for the interim training facilities (the WB bid was going to cover that now govt)
The offer to match any grassroots funding nrl puts in to nrlwa
paying for some development officers
free stadium use for undisclosed period

the rest; stadium, cofe, schools program had already been committed according to previous reports.

the western bears bid had committed to fund 4 snr positions in NS pathways programs, don’t know if nrl is now picking up that cost or bears have lost out on that?

Hi red you sound a bit down on it. is it because cashies are confirmed to definitely not be involved?

however the set up ends up being does it really matter? You get a perth team and that should be number 1 thing right?

 

[SirPies&Beers]

And who are these fanboys exactly?

I’m a fanboy, vlandys successfully negotiated with 3 different governments (2 state and 1 federal) in the last 18 months.

 

[bad boy bubby]

PVL will be forever remembered as the Chairman who got a team from WA back in the NRL.
All the false hopes of the ghosts of admin past, Gallop, Grant etc, blown out the window.

This may take time to sink in for some.

 

[Wb1234]

So where’s all the twats that said expansion was off the agenda and also that the bears would never return in the nrl

Same people also said pvl was a poor leader for the nrl

 

[Canard]

AFL funds teams in expansion areas - LU "Disaster! Worst idea ever! Money sink!"

NRL funds team "Form a queue, I'm giving Pete a Rusty Trombone!"

 

[Canard]

This model(fully NRL funded), was and is the best idea and avoids shonks and financial instability.

It only took those on this thread about 12 months to come around.

NZ2 should be the same, as all their bids so far look to be scams or completely devoid of money.

 

[Canard]

The best thing about this model is that the Bears are "in name only" and have no say in the operation of the team.

Quite frankly the future owners can just re-brand if this scenario doesn't work either.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

The best thing about this model is that the Bears are "in name only" and have no say in the operation of the team.

Quite frankly the future owners can just re-brand if this scenario doesn't work either.

Says who exactly - on both fronts?

 

[Canard]

Says who exactly - on both fronts?

It will be eventually sold to new owners.

Unless the NRL don't want any return on investment, you wouldn't saddle the team with obligations to Norths (as it would devalue the team)

 

[Red&BlackBear]

NRLWA is the NRL so they cant own it. Sadly when we lost the independent WARL we lost that opportunity.

yes very pleased with that, after decades of NRL neglecting grass roots funding to WA I'm glad the WA govt is going to hold them accountable and expect a partnership approach to grassroots funding.

Set up costs were estimated by the Western Bears bid to be in the region of $10-15mill before season kick off.

Just had a text from my inside source and still a few hurdles to overcome but the meeting was very positive and both parties are very comfortable with where it has landed. The Premier has insisted the club be WA based, WA run and will eventually look to go to a membership owned model once established. NRL will be hands off other than oversight and appointing the initial board and providing the start up grant funding.

Sounds like we ended up with a win-win and the Rugby league over here is going to benefit enormously. Fingers crossed there's no last minute glitches.

Yeah nice, you could have beaten your insider to the punch considering what he shared was you know shared on here weeks ago.

 

[Wb1234]

Someone got triggered the bears are back

lol

 

[Red&BlackBear]

It will be eventually sold to new owners.

Unless the NRL don't want any return on investment, you wouldn't saddle the team with obligations to Norths (as it would devalue the team)

I see dumbos like you are still strutting your delusions as factual opinions. Good to see, I expect days worth of posts like yours.

Could they change brand? I mean they could change the brand just like every other change of brand that’s happened since the game settled right?

I’m sure NRL don’t value club branding or it isn’t a legal obligation to maintain brand value as it forms an overall integral part of the games value - all club brands that is.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I'm just happy that those poor little rich kids in Mosman now have a team they can call their own. In Perth.

 

[Wb1234]

So salty