WA- did we miss the boat ?

[The Great Dane]

Don't tell me what I do and don't know.

How long has the NRL and ARLC been towing bid teams along?
How many new administrators have come into the NRL/ARLC touting that they'll investigate the possibility of expansion only to back track?
When was the last feasibility study into expansion of the NRL?
When was the last time they publicly released an expansion plan?
When was the last time that the NRL actually accepted an application for a license in an expanded NRL?

Do you know any of that? Cause you are talking about subjects connected to these issues as if you do when obviously you don't, cause if you did you'd realise that what you said was pretty bloody stupid considering that the NRL hasn't even looked at any bids "case for expansion" and has consistently refused to do so since about 05 when they last went though the process to actually expand the NRL and granted the Titans a license!

Yeah, economic downturns happen. Who would have thought? It's the height of financial irresponsibility to expect the good times to go on forever.

To think otherwise is pie in the sky stuff. But, that's what you dreamers do, I guess.

Are you serious?!

We're not talking about just any economic downturn, we're talking about the biggest economic crash since the great depression and the Titans weren't even a year old when it hit!

Any new business would be severely affected by that, especially one like the Titans that was heavily investing in property to sustain the football operations at the time that the GFC hit, overnight that went tits up for reasons completely outside of their control and they were forced to completely restructure their business before they had even got of the ground.

Who would have thought that the mining boom would end? Lucky we didn't put a team out there if it was going to be built on mining money. That is a show of good management, I'd say. The biggest hole in the west could have been the NRL money pit for this unwarranted expansion project.

Except that the club wasn't going to be reliant on mining money, the boom was just the perfect set of circumstances for a start up, particularly a star up in the entertainment business...

Where are all the juniors they are producing? How many of them come over? They don't really have much going for them in Rugby League terms at the moment. Hardly anyone there cares. If they did love Rugby League they'd already have so much more in place. The shocking truth is that they don't.

How do you expect any area to produce large amounts of juniors without a direct pathway to professionalism?
BTW despite the fact that they effectively don't have a direct pathway to professionalism they've still produced the most juniors of the affiliated states, ever heard of Waqa Blake, Curtis Rona, Cory Paterson, Bryson Goodwin, etc, all WARL juniors...

Also, how do you expect them to develop a taste for the game if by and large they effectively have no access to it?!
To give you an analogy using your logic McDonald's shouldn't open new restaurants in markets new to McDonald's cause the people in those new markets don't buy enough McDonald's or even necessarily know what McDonald's is... You have to introduce a product and have it available before people can buy it...

How about they do some work for themselves rather than hoping the NRL (ie Sydney) help them? Maybe try turning some heads.

You're a Cronulla fan aren't you?

The NRL don't open the biding because they know there isn't an economically sensible expansion out there at the moment.

The sad truth is, they aren't ready for the big league.

But keep on reaching for the stars champion.Maybe in 5 years or so they will be ready.

They've never done the feasibility studies to know that!

They've refused to actually investigate expansion at all since the Titans were let in in 07, yet despite that they have consistently used it as a carrot to tow bids and fans of those bids along since about 09!

 

[Perth Red]

How long has the NRL and ARLC been towing bid teams along?
How many new administrators have come into the NRL/ARLC touting that they'll investigate the possibility of expansion only to back track?
When was the last feasibility study into expansion of the NRL?
When was the last time they publicly released an expansion plan?
When was the last time that the NRL actually accepted an application for a license in an expanded NRL?

Do you know any of that? Cause you are talking about subjects connected to these issues as if you do when obviously you don't, cause if you did you'd realise that what you said was pretty bloody stupid considering that the NRL hasn't even looked at any bids "case for expansion" since about 05 when they last went though the process to actually expand the NRL and granted the Titans a license and have consistently refused to do so!



Are you serious?!

We're not talking about just any economic downturn, we're talking about the biggest economic crash since the great depression and the Titans weren't even a year old when it hit!

Any new business would be severely affected by that, especially one like the Titans that was heavily investing in property to sustain the football operations at the time that the GFC, overnight that went tits up for reasons completely outside of their control and they were forced to completely restructure their business before they had even got of the ground.



Except that the club wasn't going to be built on or rather reliant on mining money, the boom was just the perfect set of circumstances for a start up, particularly a star up in the entertainment bussiness...



How do you expect any area to produce large amounts of juniors without a direct pathway to professionalism?
BTW despite the fact that they effectively don't have a direct pathway to professionalism they've still produced the most juniors of the affiliated states, ever heard of Waqa Blake, Curtis Rona, Cory Paterson, Bryson Goodwin, etc, all WARL juniors...

How do you expect them to develop a taste for the game if by and large they effectively have no access to it?!
To give you an analogy using your logic McDonald's shouldn't open new restaurants in markets new to McDonald's cause the people in those new markets don't buy enough McDonalds or even nessacrily know what McDonalds is... You have to introduce a product and have it available before people can buy it...



You're a Cronulla fan aren't you?



They've never done the feasibility studies to know that!

They've refused to actually investigate expansion at all since the Titans were let in in 07, yet despite that they have consistently used it a carrot to tow bids and fans of those bids along since about 09!

Dont waste your time, he iis clearly clueless about the realities of both the game in WA and the nrl’s lack of balls when it comes to expansion.

 

[KokoRugbyLeague]

Dont waste your time, he iis clearly clueless about the realities of both the game in WA and the nrl’s lack of balls when it comes to expansion.

Why does Perth need the NRL. Would you not be more sustainable going at it alone and growing organically with your WA premiership and slowly expanding into South Aussie and regional Victoria. Just two cents fellow Rugby League fanatic.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Of course we did, because if this code is good at anything at all, it's squandering golden opportunities that literally fall into its lap

 

[Perth Red]

Why does Perth need the NRL. Would you not be more sustainable going at it alone and growing organically with your WA premiership and slowly expanding into South Aussie and regional Victoria. Just two cents fellow Rugby League fanatic.

Twiggy has already decided to set up his own comp, he just chose the wrong code to do it in sadly lol

A key reason would be the nrl owns the nrlwa now so they are effectively on charge of everything that happens here and in the other states.

 

[KokoRugbyLeague]

If this is indeed true NRL need to give WA there rights in governing their own football premiership.

 

[Perth Red]

If this is indeed true NRL need to give WA there rights in governing their own football premiership.

We did have, for 50 years! The independent board and ceo were strong armed into acceptimg an nrl takeover a 5 years ago with threat of funding withdrawal.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/rugby-league/leagues-mass-walkout-ng-ya-362343

 

[j5o6hn]

Unfortunately some on here think the NRL should still be the NSWRL & never left Sydney, also given the number of clubs being propped up by the NRL who should be let die or given the ultimatum fix up your finances, 3 yrs to get their crowds up to a decent level or your out on your ear or shift to another state
The NRL has the forward thinking of a gnat

 

[ThingFish]

Now with 17hr direct flights to uk, Isn’t there talk of possible billionaire franchise opportunity in the ESL, Toronto style. That would be a big up yours to the NRL.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/12/perth-may-have-more-chance-of-joining-super-league-than-the-nrl/

 

[Perth Red]

Now with 17hr direct flights to uk, Isn’t there talk of possible billionaire franchise opportunity in the ESL, Toronto style. That would be a big up yours to the NRL.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/12/perth-may-have-more-chance-of-joining-super-league-than-the-nrl/

Pie in the sky, there isnt the money in the English game to make it work. However if I won euro lotto Id do it just to poke the NRL in the eye for sitting on their hands and stringing us along for the last 8 years!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The ARLC needs to provide the funds required for the NRLWA/West Coast Pirates to field teams in NSW U16, U18, U21 and NSW Cup competitions. The Victoria Thunderbolts are doing this. It will be money well spent.

 

[greenBV4]

The ARLC needs to provide the funds required for the NRLWA/West Coast Pirates to field teams in NSW U16, U18, U21 and NSW Cup competitions. The Victoria Thunderbolts are doing this. It will be money well spent.

Is there any plans for the Thunderbolts to eventually join the NSW Cup? I hope there is as it will help the Storm to divest in qld (maybe replace easts? so they'd have SC and Thunderbolts)

I like the what the future looks like the the 2 cups - especially the Q cup. NSW still needs to replace a few "2nd grade version" NRL teams, add some CRL clubs, and then Perth and Vic along with Fiji who are incoming and we will have 2 solid 2nd grade comps.

Qcup already has a good state wide spread, PNG, the Pacific team incoming, and I'd like to see a team from the NT and eventually (a long way down the line) an Asian team

I'd then like to see them ditch the NSW/QLD names, officially become conferences, and make the playoff they already do bigger. An idea I had for names would be naming them after a NSW and QLD great to keep that state-link, but also appeal as a national/international 2nd division

Oh and throw in Wellington and/or Christchurch to one of them (or try set up a 3rd NZ-based conference if the NZRL ever gets their shit together - and ARLC takeover could help here)

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Is there any plans for the Thunderbolts to eventually join the NSW Cup? I hope there is as it will help the Storm to divest in qld (maybe replace easts? so they'd have SC and Thunderbolts)

I like the what the future looks like the the 2 cups - especially the Q cup. NSW still needs to replace a few "2nd grade version" NRL teams, add some CRL clubs, and then Perth and Vic along with Fiji who are incoming and we will have 2 solid 2nd grade comps.

Qcup already has a good state wide spread, PNG, the Pacific team incoming, and I'd like to see a team from the NT and eventually (a long way down the line) an Asian team

I'd then like to see them ditch the NSW/QLD names, officially become conferences, and make the playoff they already do bigger. An idea I had for names would be naming them after a NSW and QLD great to keep that state-link, but also appeal as a national/international 2nd division

Oh and throw in Wellington and/or Christchurch to one of them (or try set up a 3rd NZ-based conference if the NZRL ever gets their shit together - and ARLC takeover could help here)

As a Queenslander I would love to see the Queensland Cup admit teams from Perth and Adelaide. It would make the competition far more interesting.

 

[Quicksilver]

Are you serious?!

We're not talking about just any economic downturn, we're talking about the biggest economic crash since the great depression and the Titans weren't even a year old when it hit!

Any new business would be severely affected by that, especially one like the Titans that was heavily investing in property to sustain the football operations at the time that the GFC hit, overnight that went tits up for reasons completely outside of their control and they were forced to completely restructure their business before they had even got of the ground.

Oh look!

Another economic downturn!

This time even bigger than the last one that no one could have foreseen!!!

 

[Pippen94]

League doesn't need Perth or Adelaide. Will cost lots of money & bring very little fans. NRL finally understand this - pity some fans here don't

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

League doesn't need Perth or Adelaide. Will cost lots of money & bring very little fans. NRL finally understand this - pity some fans here don't

I wouldn't mind seeing them in the Queensland Cup and under age competitions. It will revitalise the local game and give kids in WA and SA a reason to take up the game. I worry about the sustainability of SA/WA teams at NRL level.

If a Sydney club were to be squeezed out of that market then Adelaide and Perth would be a good destination for them.

 

[Perth Red]

League doesn't need Perth or Adelaide. Will cost lots of money & bring very little fans. NRL finally understand this - pity some fans here don't

Given Leagues lack of ambition to be the number one footy code in the country you are quite right, it doesn't. We seem very content to be little brother to AFL.

 

[Pippen94]

Given Leagues lack of ambition to be the number one footy code in the country you are quite right, it doesn't. We seem very content to be little brother to AFL.

League no.1 sport in states with over 50% of population - will be 2/3 in future. Afl under pressure to grow hence money thrown at northern expansion. Nrl doesn't need to do this & would be stupid to replicate

 

[The Great Dane]

Oh look!

Another economic downturn!

This time even bigger than the last one that no one could have foreseen!!!

So what, we shouldn't expand because there might be an economic downturn right at the time we expand, and that economic downturn could negatively effect the expansion clubs in particular. . .

Okaaay, whatever you say mate.

 

[greenBV4]

So what, we shouldn't expand because there might be an economic downturn right at the time we expand, and that economic downturn could negatively effect the expansion clubs in particular. . .

Okaaay, whatever you say mate.

nah nah NRL HQ knew coronavirus was coming, they have a crystal ball

or maybe they watch the simpsons