Wake up to yourselves

[Fein]

Can somebody direct me to the Hotdog stand

 

[Adsy]

LOL at the OP telling us to f**k off to China yet in the same rambling statement basically tells us we can't use the right of free speech.

Who gave you the right to tell people what try can or can't do, champ?

I'm a Newcastle fan and I like many other knights fans have been copping variations of 'drug cheats' calls for 12 years now.

I'm sure some Bulldog fans have been copping 'cheat/rapist' calls for 6 years.

StGeorge fans cop 'chokers' jokes all the time.

Point is it's part if life being hassled and to most of us it's water off our backs. However to arrogant Storm fans it's everyone in the rugby league community trying to force them out of the comp. Which coincidently is the same attitude as some of the arrogant Storm players.

That is why a number of people are sick with absolutely everything to do with the club and I'm sorry to say it but it does include those fans with that attitude.

 

[gerg]

I have attended the past 3 grand finals as an fan of rugby league (raiders fan). The behaviour of Storm fans when they got beaten by Manly was the worst I have ever seen. I saw female Manly supporters physically assaulted by Storm fans because they lost. It was the most disgraceful thing I have ever witnessed at a sporting event.

I'd guess that quite a few of the players knew about it. NRL players aren't the brightest bulbs in the box but if you are signing more than one contract, or receiving "gifts" you would have to be suspicious.

 

[Jason_(Is_our_King)_Smith]

It absolutely astounds me that anyone would own up to thinking a club criminally cheating at a sport at the expense of 15 other teams, the game's fans, and five years of honest football is more acceptable than one of many arguable instances of short-sightedness in NRL policy.

And Melbourne didn't cheat because they thought their NRL expansion grant was insufficient.

They did it because they were greedy, and because they had people of very dubious character, formulating and executing policy.

To me, your answer is absolutely ludicrous.

Looking at your own team, I have a long enough memory to remember the Raider's rorts of the late 80s and early 90s, where Bradley Clyde was being paid executive wages to be "greenskeeper" at Parliament House - all rubber-stamped by the then sporting minister if I remember correctly.

Perhaps that is why what the Storm have done is so palatable to you.

You asked a question. You didn't like my answer --- and that's fair enough.

But don't try to verbal me.

 

[KaboobieGarfunkelShazam]

You asked a question. You didn't like my answer --- and that's fair enough.

But don't try to verbal me.

Apologies for the niggle, but I did try to put it as politely as possible.

I was just after what justification (and offering in hindsight, misguided speculation) sees your opinion think that short-sightedness in NRL policy can be equating with instituted cheating of a sport at the expense of the other competitors?

 

[KaboobieGarfunkelShazam]

I had posted the following in the "Storm fat cats dished up the cream" thread in the "Melbourne Storm" sub-forum, but as there are self-confessed Storm fans who avoid that thread for fear of trolling, I offer it here for those very people, with an invitation for rebuttal. I don't consider it trolling - rather a presentation of opinion, backed by what in my opinion is evidence enough to back it.

It is in regards to player refusal in talking to the auditors who have been appointed to getting to the bottom of this mess. This thread title "Wake up to yourselves", also seems somewhat apt for its placement:

I don't think the players are doing themselves any favours by refusing to talk to the auditors.

If they were indeed innocent of knowledge of any impropriety, then why refuse a chance to clear your name and any speculation surrounding them?

For this very reason, I am led to believe that the players involved were neck-deep in knowledge of these rorts.

Sigining three contracts innocently I can live with.

But to deliberately obstruct an effort to look at how and why this happened - which may very well have the benefit of ensuring that it never happens again - for me illustrates that they are in fear of the truth.

It is a very plausible scenario that when given their hidden contracts, the players were briefed exactly on how they were being paid, and what story to present in the event of an individual audit.

It appears, no-one expected a whistle-blower.

If I were an innocent player, the first thing I would be doing would be to start legal proceedings against my agent (and perhaps my club), for unwittingly involving me in this fraudulent activity.

The fact that this hasn't occurred, coupled with the fact that no player will co-operate with the audit interviews, only confirms in my mind that the high-profile players involved are as likely guilty as the club.

 

[philstorm]

Fair point. From what I have heard from the Storm directors, the directors are the ones telling the players to wait until the court case against the NRL is over before fronting the auditors.


It's just one massive sh*t-f**k. Fans are sick of it, players want to just play, Directors want to sue their owners ...

Can't wait for next year ...

I had posted the following in the "Storm fat cats dished up the cream" thread in the "Melbourne Storm" sub-forum, but as there are self-confessed Storm fans who avoid that thread for fear of trolling, I offer it here for those very people, with an invitation for rebuttal. I don't consider it trolling - rather a presentation of opinion, backed by what in my opinion is evidence enough to back it.

It is in regards to player refusal in talking to the auditors who have been appointed to getting to the bottom of this mess. This thread title "Wake up to yourselves", also seems somewhat apt for its placement:

I don't think the players are doing themselves any favours by refusing to talk to the auditors.

If they were indeed innocent of knowledge of any impropriety, then why refuse a chance to clear your name and any speculation surrounding them?

For this very reason, I am led to believe that the players involved were neck-deep in knowledge of these rorts.

Sigining three contracts innocently I can live with.

But to deliberately obstruct an effort to look at how and why this happened - which may very well have the benefit of ensuring that it never happens again - for me illustrates that they are in fear of the truth.

It is a very plausible scenario that when given their hidden contracts, the players were briefed exactly on how they were being paid, and what story to present in the event of an individual audit.

It appears, no-one expected a whistle-blower.

If I were an innocent player, the first thing I would be doing would be to start legal proceedings against my agent (and perhaps my club), for unwittingly involving me in this fraudulent activity.

The fact that this hasn't occurred, coupled with the fact that no player will co-operate with the audit interviews, only confirms in my mind that the high-profile players involved are as likely guilty as the club.

 

[betcats]

f*ck the storm, even before the salary cap scandal i alway thought they were a grubby dirty team, now their cheats aswell f*ck them.

 

[betcats]

I can't get my head around people who want an apology from the Storm players! FMD. Atleast us storm fans know who's in the wrong here, and its definitely not the players. Feel free to prove me wrong though.

f**k off you muppet, Cam Smith had THREE contracts what the f**k did he think was going on, some of these players must of known. Your a team full of cheats and grubs.

 

[Doomednow]

f*ck the storm, even before the salary cap scandal i alway thought they were a grubby dirty team, now their cheats aswell f*ck them.

+1

EDIT: Still, they need to be in the comp. They also needed the smug kicked out of them. Luckily they managed to do that themselves, however they have not managed to cope with it graciously. A bit like the spoilt four-year old throwing a tantrum when they are told to share their shiny toys and play fair.

 

[petetheileet]

I dont want a direct apology from any storm players yet...and i never want to hear one, when it is prooved who knew about it i dont want to see or hear of them ever again....

What i would like from the players and coaches is an acknowledgement. But that is way too classy for them. Acknowledgement to other NRL Players...yes we have been getting paid a lot more more money than you. Yes due to our management cheating we have had a superior team against the laws of the game and therefore you have been robbed of some of your successes and possible representation of your state and nation.

We acknowledge that other fans have also been robbed of their premiership dreams and teams successes

'for these circumstances, to the fans and players of our great game we apologize'

gee that would be nice, and not a lot to ask.

co operating with auditors would also be nice!

victims arent usually ones earning lots of money, winning everything.

TBH there really hasnt been a punishment, the only thing that has happened is that wrongs have been righted.

They should not be playing with a team over the cap this year.

faaark the Storm

 

[simostorm]

I dont want a direct apology from any storm players yet...and i never want to hear one, when it is prooved who knew about it i dont want to see or hear of them ever again....

What i would like from the players and coaches is an acknowledgement. But that is way too classy for them. Acknowledgement to other NRL Players...yes we have been getting paid a lot more more money than you. Yes due to our management cheating we have had a superior team against the laws of the game and therefore you have been robbed of some of your successes and possible representation of your state and nation.

We acknowledge that other fans have also been robbed of their premiership dreams and teams successes

'for these circumstances, to the fans and players of our great game we apologize'

gee that would be nice, and not a lot to ask.

co operating with auditors would also be nice!

victims arent usually ones earning lots of money, winning everything.

TBH there really hasnt been a punishment, the only thing that has happened is that wrongs have been righted.

They should not be playing with a team over the cap this year.

faaark the Storm

Your a nobody :lol::lol:, and the ridiculous rubbish your stateing you want.. you aint gunna get..

Storm are playing the rest of the season, and will play for points next season, and the players wont apoligise nothin to anyone,
and you will see them again..

Swallow it dimwitt.

 

[Non Terminator]

Yes, we'll see them again.
For other clubs.

 

[Slackboy72]

Yes, we'll see them again.
For other clubs.

...like the Essendon Bombers :lol:

 

[STG-Dragon]

I had posted the following in the "Storm fat cats dished up the cream" thread in the "Melbourne Storm" sub-forum, but as there are self-confessed Storm fans who avoid that thread for fear of trolling, I offer it here for those very people, with an invitation for rebuttal. I don't consider it trolling - rather a presentation of opinion, backed by what in my opinion is evidence enough to back it.

It is in regards to player refusal in talking to the auditors who have been appointed to getting to the bottom of this mess. This thread title "Wake up to yourselves", also seems somewhat apt for its placement:

I don't think the players are doing themselves any favours by refusing to talk to the auditors.

If they were indeed innocent of knowledge of any impropriety, then why refuse a chance to clear your name and any speculation surrounding them?

For this very reason, I am led to believe that the players involved were neck-deep in knowledge of these rorts.

Sigining three contracts innocently I can live with.

But to deliberately obstruct an effort to look at how and why this happened - which may very well have the benefit of ensuring that it never happens again - for me illustrates that they are in fear of the truth.

It is a very plausible scenario that when given their hidden contracts, the players were briefed exactly on how they were being paid, and what story to present in the event of an individual audit.

It appears, no-one expected a whistle-blower.

If I were an innocent player, the first thing I would be doing would be to start legal proceedings against my agent (and perhaps my club), for unwittingly involving me in this fraudulent activity.

The fact that this hasn't occurred, coupled with the fact that no player will co-operate with the audit interviews, only confirms in my mind that the high-profile players involved are as likely guilty as the club.

Yep these scumbags are neck deep in it only an idiot would think they didn't know!

 

[STG-Dragon]

Key word here.

Storm have proved anything but "viable", by not only biting and defecating upon the hand that fed them, but by also showing a disrespect that goes far beyond the point of arrogance and common decency, to not only all other clubs and supporters, but also to the game of Rugby League itself.

They are therefore, anything but "viable".

The right thing to do, would be to boot them out, and start a new franchise there, under new management.

And if it takes half a decade. . . so be it.

After all, we only have Melbourne Storm to blame.

Agreed 100%.

 

[Ray Parlour]

If you dont think the players were aware that they were getting loaded with heaps of free sh*t then your are a deadsh*t of the highest order.

Highest order.

The players, officials, board members and everyone affiliated with that club are scum and deserve every bit of abuse they are copping.

 

[Eels Dude]

If you dont think the players were aware that they were getting loaded with heaps of free sh*t then your are a deadsh*t of the highest order.

Highest order.

The players, officials, board members and everyone affiliated with that club are scum and deserve every bit of abuse they are copping.

Yeah they must have known something was up... "Hey Greg... you know that extra 30k we promised you. Well instead of giving it to you in cash we decided to give you a 30k boat instead. nudge nudge wink wink"

 

[StormChaser]

Oh ffs get over it! Change the f**king record, it amazes me how the same people can say the same things, over and over and over and over again in a million different ways yet still think they need to repeat themselves AGAIN.
It's like being in a dementia ward before meds top up time.

 

[chrisD]

Your a nobody :lol::lol:, and the ridiculous rubbish your stateing you want.. you aint gunna get..

Storm are playing the rest of the season, and will play for points next season, and the players wont apoligise nothin to anyone,
and you will see them again..

Swallow it dimwitt.

Of course he won't get what he wants and we won't get what we want, as your club, its players and administration, have about as much class as their fans, that is as much class as you. All we'll do is treat your team accordingly, despite the choked up voices, gnashed teeth and bitter tears of the Scum supporters and players.