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Wake up to yourselves

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P.S I call total and utter bullsh*t on you that you would walk away from your club if the shoe was on the other foot. It's plainly obvious that you're a one-eyed, passionate supporter of the Eels, so as if you'd walk away!:roll:

I couldn't see any regular poster on this forum walking away. At all.
 

BDH

Juniors
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After reading the majority of these responses it has become abundantly clear that a significant portion of this forum don't even read the thread they choose to respond in.
 
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After reading all the Parra vs Storm threads which were a result of a great game of football (I am a neutral supporter), I think it's time to say some home truths.

Every single Eels, Dragons or other "fan" who came out last night and said pathetic verbal-diarrhea (e.g. "storm fans look at yourselves you cheats" and other slanders) the time is now for you to WAKE THE f**k UP TO YOURSELVES!

The Storm officials cheated. Not the players (innocent until proven guilty and if you don't like that, f**k off to China), not the coach, AND ESPECIALLY NOT THE FANS.

The Storm fans have been decimated with what is easily the worst possible thing that could have happened to their beloved team.These Storm fans have done nothing more than LOVE THEIR FOOTY CLUB. Something that we all do and something which is the cornerstone of Rugby League.

You pathetic losers, who come on an internet forum, talk sh*t (because we all know the reality is very, very few of you would talk this sh*t face to face with Storm fans) and give it to Storm fans at every opportunity, smack of desperation.

Storm fans are VITAL to the rebuilding of the club, and the club is VITAL to the competition. By all means give people sh*t about how useless their club is, but to constantly bleat about something which has crushed most Storm fans is a dog act. They know their club cheated.....out of all of us NRL fans, they know the most.

Get a new insult.

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People who don't recognise the value of a viable rugby league presence in Melbourne are kidding themselves.
 
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People who don't recognise the value of a viable rugby league presence in Melbourne are kidding themselves.


Key word here.

Storm have proved anything but "viable", by not only biting and defecating upon the hand that fed them, but by also showing a disrespect that goes far beyond the point of arrogance and common decency, to not only all other clubs and supporters, but also to the game of Rugby League itself.

They are therefore, anything but "viable".

The right thing to do, would be to boot them out, and start a new franchise there, under new management.

And if it takes half a decade. . . so be it.

After all, we only have Melbourne Storm to blame.
 

Slackboy72

Coach
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After reading the majority of these responses it has become abundantly clear that a significant portion of this forum don't even read the thread they choose to respond in.
After reading the majority of these responses it has become abundantly clear that a significant portion of this forum don't agree with the original poster and their whiny bullsh*t opinions.
 
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Key word here.

Storm have proved anything but "viable", by not only biting and defecating upon the hand that fed them, but by also showing a disrespect that goes far beyond the point of arrogance and common decency, to not only all other clubs and supporters, but also to the game of Rugby League itself.

They are therefore, anything but "viable".

The right thing to do, would be to boot them out, and start a new franchise there, under new management.

And if it takes half a decade. . . so be it.

After all, we only have Melbourne Storm to blame.

The AFL expansion teams have been given assistance way above anything Melbourne Storm received from the NRL . In fact the AFL expansion teams have received benefits many, many times above the "rorts" the Storm perpetrated on the cap.

Why the disparity in treatment of AFL and NRL expansion teams? Because the AFL recognises the importance of expansion. Rugby league ignores this at its peril.
 
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The AFL expansion teams have been given assistance way above anything Melbourne Storm received from the NRL . In fact the AFL expansion teams have received benefits many, many times above the "rorts" the Storm perpetrated on the cap.

Why the disparity in treatment of AFL and NRL expansion teams? Because the AFL recognises the importance of expansion. Rugby league ignores this at its peril.

This disparity is something for the NRL to consider for the long term as a possible strategy to ensure its code's national survival.

However, it is quite irrelevant to the nature of the criminal fraud the Storm conspired and perpetrated as an organisation.

I therefore, do not see the point in the observation that AFL expansion grants as being larger than what the Storm rorted at the expense of the rest of the clubs in the competition, and the credibility of the game.

And to be honest which is worse?

The NRL not funding new franchises to the tune of the AFL?

Or a club less than ten years old, who did receive assistance from its governing body, embarking upon the largest instance of criminal fraud in the history of the code?
 

Stormsally

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I consider myself a 'reasonable' Melbourne Storm fan and as a result of this:
I don't read the majority of the posts that are just Stormbaiting - what's the point?
I accept that MY club broke the rules - deliberately for the past five years.
Feel that the value of large part of MY life for the past five years was taken away.
Feel let down by the NRL for not protecting my interests, and those of every other NRL supporter.
Accept that the players did not know what was going on (as stated players would have to sign more than one contract - if they are on 3rd party CONTRACTS)
Get extremely frustrated with News Ltd giving information to newspapers that have not been offically released.
Support in principal the legal action, because the NRL did not follow due process (although I do agree with the penalty - the point of the legal action is about due process)
Wish the NRL was a more professional organisation that didn't have to really on wistle blowers to find the fraud (If they were caught in 2005!!)
Still support the club 100% - because they are my team.
Can't wait for the audit to be over so we can start preparing for 2011 and try to get over the horror of this season
Have to say - the Storm players don't act apologetic - because they don't particularly care if the supporters of other teams think them arrogant - they show the same attitude of THEIR fans - feel ripped off for having the past five years of their Rugby League careers wiped out. If I feel devistated for having put so much time effort and cash into following the team - they have 100x more reason to be pissed of.
 

StormChaser

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*stands and applauds* My sentiments exactly Sally. Except I get sucked into the baiting cos it's all I've been reading for weeks and the trolling is doing my head in. Wish I could ignore them too.
 

RockWheel

Bench
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I consider myself a 'reasonable' Melbourne Storm fan and as a result of this:
I don't read the majority of the posts that are just Stormbaiting - what's the point?
I accept that MY club broke the rules - deliberately for the past five years.
Feel that the value of large part of MY life for the past five years was taken away.
Feel let down by the NRL for not protecting my interests, and those of every other NRL supporter.
Accept that the players did not know what was going on (as stated players would have to sign more than one contract - if they are on 3rd party CONTRACTS)
Get extremely frustrated with News Ltd giving information to newspapers that have not been offically released.
Support in principal the legal action, because the NRL did not follow due process (although I do agree with the penalty - the point of the legal action is about due process)
Wish the NRL was a more professional organisation that didn't have to really on wistle blowers to find the fraud (If they were caught in 2005!!)
Still support the club 100% - because they are my team.
Can't wait for the audit to be over so we can start preparing for 2011 and try to get over the horror of this season
Have to say - the Storm players don't act apologetic - because they don't particularly care if the supporters of other teams think them arrogant - they show the same attitude of THEIR fans - feel ripped off for having the past five years of their Rugby League careers wiped out. If I feel devistated for having put so much time effort and cash into following the team - they have 100x more reason to be pissed of.

Perhaps the Storm tried to hide the fact that they were cheating from the NRL? Crazy idea I know. I'd like to think that the good and honest Melbourne Storm contacted the NRL and told them of their systematic rorting, but maybe there's the possibility they didn't want the NRL to know, so they tried to hide it.
 
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This disparity is something for the NRL to consider for the long term as a possible strategy to ensure its code's national survival.

However, it is quite irrelevant to the nature of the criminal fraud the Storm conspired and perpetrated as an organisation.

I therefore, do not see the point in the observation that AFL expansion grants as being larger than what the Storm rorted at the expense of the rest of the clubs in the competition, and the credibility of the game.

And to be honest which is worse?

The NRL not funding new franchises to the tune of the AFL?

Or a club less than ten years old, who did receive assistance from its governing body, embarking upon the largest instance of criminal fraud in the history of the code?

If you're genuinely interested in the future of rugby league, then it's the former, by a country mile...
 

Stormsally

Juniors
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My point is that the NRL should have a more extenstive salary cap staff - or do something similar to the AFL where they offered a collective deal with the players through the players association that allows the AFL to have access to their tax records in return for a serious freeing up of the restrictions of third party deals.
Salary cap is their rule - they should have the teeth and guts to be able to enforce it.
 
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The former, by a country mile...

It absolutely astounds me that anyone would own up to thinking a club criminally cheating at a sport at the expense of 15 other teams, the game's fans, and five years of honest football is more acceptable than one of many arguable instances of short-sightedness in NRL policy.

And Melbourne didn't cheat because they thought their NRL expansion grant was insufficient.

They did it because they were greedy, and because they had people of very dubious character, formulating and executing policy.

To me, your answer is absolutely ludicrous.

Looking at your own team, I have a long enough memory to remember the Raider's rorts of the late 80s and early 90s, where Bradley Clyde was being paid executive wages to be "greenskeeper" at Parliament House - all rubber-stamped by the then sporting minister if I remember correctly.

Perhaps that is why what the Storm have done is so palatable to you.
 
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innsaneink

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My point is that the NRL should have a more extenstive salary cap staff - or do something similar to the AFL where they offered a collective deal with the players through the players association that allows the AFL to have access to their tax records in return for a serious freeing up of the restrictions of third party deals.
Salary cap is their rule - they should have the teeth and guts to be able to enforce it.
You'd think clubs could simply play by the rules.
You are like many, still apportioning much of the blame elsewhere...you have your head in the sand, youre playing the victim and in denial.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

Coach
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My point is that the NRL should have a more extenstive salary cap staff - or do something similar to the AFL where they offered a collective deal with the players through the players association that allows the AFL to have access to their tax records in return for a serious freeing up of the restrictions of third party deals.
Salary cap is their rule - they should have the teeth and guts to be able to enforce it.

Thats certainly an interesting idea.

Should the NRL look into doing that?
 

Scarves

Juniors
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This whole terrible situation we as a code now find ourselves in is more the fault of a short sighted NRL as a "disorganisation" than the fans of the Melbourne Storm.

I find it difficult to be critical of Storm fans, no matter what their individual thoughts are on the multi tentacled matter.

Storm fans were always going to form opinions that were generally diifferent to the negative consenus, but blaming them for this current mess that is beginning to have a concerning domino effect on our game is very closed minded and selfish.

Selfishness is what drove this rubbish in the first place, The Brian Waldron's and Johnny Ribot de Bresac's of this world are part of the refuse. We as a code and as fans should pull together, support the Storm fans, and become a stronger code for this painful experience.

Look at what you give.
 

chrisD

Coach
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I consider myself a 'reasonable' Melbourne Storm fan and as a result of this:
I don't read the majority of the posts that are just Stormbaiting - what's the point?
I accept that MY club broke the rules - deliberately for the past five years.
Feel that the value of large part of MY life for the past five years was taken away.
Feel let down by the NRL for not protecting my interests, and those of every other NRL supporter.
Accept that the players did not know what was going on (as stated players would have to sign more than one contract - if they are on 3rd party CONTRACTS)
Get extremely frustrated with News Ltd giving information to newspapers that have not been offically released.
Support in principal the legal action, because the NRL did not follow due process (although I do agree with the penalty - the point of the legal action is about due process)
Wish the NRL was a more professional organisation that didn't have to really on wistle blowers to find the fraud (If they were caught in 2005!!)
Still support the club 100% - because they are my team.
Can't wait for the audit to be over so we can start preparing for 2011 and try to get over the horror of this season
Have to say - the Storm players don't act apologetic - because they don't particularly care if the supporters of other teams think them arrogant - they show the same attitude of THEIR fans - feel ripped off for having the past five years of their Rugby League careers wiped out. If I feel devistated for having put so much time effort and cash into following the team - they have 100x more reason to be pissed of.

Yeah, like your team, you're a disgrace.
 

Ulysseus

Bench
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I have spent a few hours pondering this complex issue, and after much careful consideration I have come to the following conclusion;

The Storm can suck my hairy brown balls.

:lol:
RING THE BELL!!


We have a f**king knockout response right there!

NO ONE will refute that response!
 

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