Wallabies Team Vs. Ireland

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

Mortlock was good leader for the Brumbies, thought it would have carried through to the Wallabies.

Are they putting too much pressure on him??

He is carrying the team from the back at the moment and
Kicking the goals and Captaining the squad.

 

[skeepe]

Giteau is obviously not the answer...not yet anyway. We're just weakening one of our strengths (inside centre) to strengthen a weakness (backup half behind the King).

I said I had grave fears for this tour, how sad it is that I was proven right. Jones should never have been sacked. He was building to something... now, we're worse off than we were last year.

 

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

Giteau is not a No. 12, he can't take a crash-ball, which is the primary funtion of an Inside Centre.

Bring back Morgan Turinui.

 

[willvillain]

Turinui isn't a crash-ball runner either. I don't think that's an inside-centre role, I think that is an outside-centre role to be honest.

The Kiwis have shown the way recently by having a 12 who has the skills to move one spot closer to the action.

Some of Giteau's running in the Ireland game showed why he's a good 12. Same with the Wales game - when he was moved back out to the centres he still carved up and set up a try with one excellent run.

 

[aussies1st]

Giteau goes missing at inside centre, at least at halfback he can unleash at any time.
Turinui oh God no, hes average at best nothing special at all. 12s try Gerrard maybe, SNK or Larkham. Barnes should be 10.

 

[lockyno1]

Barnes at 10, Giteau at 9, try Staniforth at 12, Mortlock at 13, Shephard and Tuquiri on the wings and Latham at fullback. Rathbone on the bench, just becuase I think Shephard adds that unpredicatbility to the backline.

 

[willvillain]

Barnes?!?! Any Aussie backline without Larkham is wrong by the way.

 

[Sanchez]

12s these days need to be a second receiver

 

[aussies1st]

Barnes has real talent as we know and he was awesome for those pathetic Reds. He'll also be in his second year so he'll have an experience.

 

[aqua_duck]

Does anyone else agree that Tuqiri is not a centre?

 

[Twizzle]

Does anyone else agree that Tuqiri is not a centre?

yeah, I think most of us do

Fox are reporting tonight that Rogers is gonna play stand off against Scotland A

must be his turn, they seem to be loking hard for the right forumla

not sure if this is the answer

 

[willvillain]

The fact that he is playing the mid-week game means that they have finally acknowledged that he is not the answer. He has been given the low-priority game, which means at best he'll be on the bench for the big game next weekend.

 

[lockyno1]

Barnes?!?! Any Aussie backline without Larkham is wrong by the way.

No, in his current form any team WITH Larkham is wrong! I hate picking sides on reputation and as good as Larkham has been in the past he hasn't played well for a good 6-8 months. Barnes is the best no10 we have IMO.

 

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

Turinui isn't a crash-ball runner either. I don't think that's an inside-centre role, I think that is an outside-centre role to be honest.
The Kiwis have shown the way recently by having a 12 who has the skills to move one spot closer to the action.
Some of Giteau's running in the Ireland game showed why he's a good 12. Same with the Wales game - when he was moved back out to the centres he still carved up and set up a try with one excellent run.

That's exactly what you want out of a No. 12, I played inside centre for years and that's the first thing you learn. It’s a way to recycle the ball quick and stretch the defence. But hey, who wants to play multiple phase rugby anymore and used the entire field, no we’ll just pick and drive and pass the ball back on the inside into the ruck area.

And to put it simply, WE DO NOT HAVE THE SKILLS THAT THE KIWI'S DO.
So trying to copy their formula is just silly, we can even follow our own script at the moment.

Barnes at 10

Has the entire Australian supports core gone barking f**king mad.....??

One of the reasons that the Reds didn't win many games; they had no direction from their inexperienced fly-half. And your saying put in a Wallabies jersey??
See if he can dominate a state level, sorry even make his side completive at state level - then and only then should he even be considered.

 

[skeepe]

No, in his current form any team WITH Larkham is wrong! I hate picking sides on reputation and as good as Larkham has been in the past he hasn't played well for a good 6-8 months. Barnes is the best no10 we have IMO.

f**k me dead you're a dribbler. Larkham was brilliant in the Wales game, and has been for the majority of the year.

Just like with your obscene fascination with Nathan Hauritz just because he's a Queenslander, you are ignoring the fact that Larkham is still the best flyhalf in the world because you want your little Queensland mate Berrick Barnes in the team.

Locky, if you were coach of Australia we'd have trouble beating Samoa. f**k me dead you're ignorant.

Anyway, looks like I was right once again... the papers this morning are reporting that Knuckles will revert to a backline of Latham, Rathbone, Mortlock, Giteau, Tuqiri, Larkham and Gregan next year. Suck it, f**ker.

 

[willvillain]

No, in his current form any team WITH Larkham is wrong! I hate picking sides on reputation and as good as Larkham has been in the past he hasn't played well for a good 6-8 months. Barnes is the best no10 we have IMO.

Haha, that'll do me. You genuinly have no idea about what you post. Sometimes I think you could well be John Connelly.

Larkham has been a shining light in a spluttering backline this whole tour. Of the two GOOD tries that Australia has scored this tour one was a display of amazing individual brilliance (Latham vs Wales) and the other was a simple touch of class that actually looked like a nicely constructed try and gave the illusion that we had a coherent backline (Rogers vs Italy, off the back of Larkham's incisive run and pass).

You say his form hasn't been good for 6-8 months? I take it you are including the time he spent injured during the Super 14? The injury which derailed the Brumbies season? Before that happened he was in nice touch, and it was a bugger of an injury becuase as you know (re: Watson) hamstring injuries are touch nuts to crack!

 

[lockyno1]

Well watch Ireland win the World Cup if Gregan is halfback and if Barnes is not in the side. He has something about him that is special. The reason the Reds were awful was becuase the other players are crap. Take out Latham and Barnes and Coordingly, they rest are rubbish. Australia needs a fly half that will run the ball and try things. Barnes is that person.

 

[skeepe]

Barnes better than Larkham? :crazy:

 

[The Camden Leisure Pirate]

Well watch Ireland win the World Cup if Gregan is halfback and if Barnes is not in the side. He has something about him that is special. The reason the Reds were awful was becuase the other players are crap. Take out Latham and Barnes and Coordingly, they rest are rubbish. Australia needs a fly half that will run the ball and try things. Barnes is that person.

Do you know how many games QLD won last year??? 4

Berrick Barnes in not a fly-half's a$$hole and it will be proved again next year in the Super 14.

Kurtly Beale and Josh Valentine are the future.

 

[skeepe]

Somewhat agree, although my bias also sees Luke Burgess in with a chance at the halfback role. Why Laurie Fisher thinks Patrick Phibbs is better than Burgess I'll never know.