Warriors Trial Matchday Thread

[bartman]

As for the result and reports so far... as others have said, as long as there are no injuries and everyone got a chance to dust some cobwebs, then the trial scoreboard is pretty irrelevant (and would have been even if we'd "won" the result).

 

[Stagger eel]

Geez, overreaction much? All Spartan said was that the official trial report would just have all the usual cliches you get after a loss. No different to how everyone here regularly bemoaned Hagan's famous line about not being far from where we want to be... but yeah, let's put sh*t on one poster because we're too precious/paranoid about any realism/criticism bursting our personal 2011 bubble.

well this came from the same poster..

We have the worst ceo in the competition. How we are gonna have to pay him out after all this falls on osbournes shoulders only. He wanted him he should pay him out of his pocket

it's obvious this bloke has major chip with guns loaded even before a ball was kicked..

now, let's talk about overeaction shall we??

 

[bartman]

Is it from the same thread (ie this one) Staggs? I didn't see it in this thread this morning... but perhaps I might have missed it?

Or (if I didn't miss it in this thread) is this a case of you bringing across old grudges and issues from the past or other threads, just to single out an individual member? That's what I call an overreaction, and it's no wonder imo that he had a go back given your moderator status...

It's going to be a long year on here if a bunch of people overreact to people on here with different opinions to theirs, by carrying chips on their shoulder and bagging them off in unrelated threads. :crazy:

 

[Stagger eel]

Is it from the same thread (ie this one) Staggs? I didn't see it in this thread this morning... but perhaps I might have missed it?

Or (if I didn't miss it in this thread) is this a case of you bringing across old grudges and issues from the past or other threads, just to single out an individual member? That's what I call an overreaction, and it's no wonder imo that he had a go back given your moderator status...

It's going to be a long year on here if a bunch of people overreact to people on here with different opinions to theirs, by carrying chips on their shoulder and bagging them off in unrelated threads. :crazy:

yep whatever Bartman..

if people have a problem with me being moderator I'm more than happy to hand back my privlidges..

 

[forestfan]

I went to the game yesterday

saw shacks first hit up....he impressed me..really strong in his runs and defence

Mortimer looks a bit bigger..but he didnt do a lot right in the first 20 minutes on the 5th tackle two kicks went astray either in the warriors in goal on the full..or over the sidline on the full..

indeed the tactic appeared to be on the 5th..bomb...so whats changed since DA

I suppose since Mateo, Inu and the absence of Hayne there wasnt much razzle dazzle..the offloading wasnt really there..and I thought we looked very ordinary

Im not sure what it was really either we played crap or the warriors are a team that'll do alright this season

Murray looked alright to me I suppose..didnt do anything special

Horo made a couple of good runs

Walker..Whatuira just a run-of-the -mill performances

and Burt..can I say he looks 'past it'..like he never broke the line and some dreadful kciks when he ended up with the ball on the 5th

oh yeah and Loko played wing (5) and he DID look good..except under the high ball..Inu scored on his wing


Im pretty 100% certain the eels will win at Eden park..and if your asking why? its cos for all the hard-training I hear the eels have but putting in...it didnt show yesterday..and I think they held back a hell of a lot


why play all your cards in a trial game anyway

 

[Ant]

Trials are simply that trials.
You should never be concerned by the result, because you can't be certain how each team has prepared and is treating the trial. The only goal is to come through with no injuries, and hopefully not get flogged by 50 (anything under that can be ok, depending on the circumstances).

Some teams may be testing out specific parternships, new patterns, it could be anything. Some teams come into the game fresh, others could be under intense fitness training.

The type of training leading up to the game has a major impact. League sides can't be at their peak all year. Any sports training schedule is designed around peaking at various points in the season. They could run in 4, 5 even up to 10 week blocks. And obviously around september they will try and sustain that physical peak with very specific training methods.

But some teams may go into trials under intense fitness training, and the trial will simply form part of it. The coaching staff will be trying to improve players fitness and also seeing how they go under extreme fatigue. I have known sides who have done full length triathalons the day before the game, or have just come out of boot camp, or teams that that split the day of the game into two sessions, 2 - 3 hours fitness in the morning, game in the afternoon. As you would imagine if one side is extremely fatigued in a trial and the other side is not, at NRL level the fresh side should always win comfortably. During the season while there are still peaks, teams would never be so far away from each other in terms of preparation.

Trials provide fun banter between supporters and something for journalists to write about.
Coaches will be trying to learn something with each trial, just for the average fan you never know what that is.

So enjoy the banter, but worry about results in round 1 not now.

 

[bartman]

yep whatever Bartman..

if people have a problem with me being moderator I'm more than happy to hand back my privlidges..

It was you yourself who commented (in this thread) that you didn't know what being a moderator had to do with Spartan's comment back to you about it - I'm just trying to explain my guess at it (and hopefully point out the pitfalls of carrying grudges between threads, and playing the man instead of the ball).

That aside, you didn't answer the question Staggs.... Did you drag that quote from Spartan out from some other thread, as attempted justification for why you overreacted to his comments in this thread about official match reports?

If so, why? I'd hate to see more people in these parts catching what I tend to call the El D syndrome... :crazy:

 

[yy_cheng]

I'd very much hope that this is our starting backrow - I struggle to think of any other options tbh?

This would make me drool though

13. Smith
12. FFMM
11. Hindy
10. Poore
9. Mitchell
8. Mannah

15. Shack
16. Horo
17. Webb


So our hitups would be Mannah then Poore then FFMM...

Poore and Mannah to play a little bit more than 20mins, throw on Horo at the 20min mark

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Im pretty 100% certain the eels will win at Eden park..and if your asking why? its cos for all the hard-training I hear the eels have but putting in...it didnt show yesterday..and I think they held back a hell of a lot


why play all your cards in a trial game anyway

Sure keep thinking that :roll:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Trials are simply that trials.
You should never be concerned by the result, because you can't be certain how each team has prepared and is treating the trial. The only goal is to come through with no injuries, and hopefully not get flogged by 50 (anything under that can be ok, depending on the circumstances).

Some teams may be testing out specific parternships, new patterns, it could be anything. Some teams come into the game fresh, others could be under intense fitness training.

The type of training leading up to the game has a major impact. League sides can't be at their peak all year. Any sports training schedule is designed around peaking at various points in the season. They could run in 4, 5 even up to 10 week blocks. And obviously around september they will try and sustain that physical peak with very specific training methods.

But some teams may go into trials under intense fitness training, and the trial will simply form part of it. The coaching staff will be trying to improve players fitness and also seeing how they go under extreme fatigue. I have known sides who have done full length triathalons the day before the game, or have just come out of boot camp, or teams that that split the day of the game into two sessions, 2 - 3 hours fitness in the morning, game in the afternoon. As you would imagine if one side is extremely fatigued in a trial and the other side is not, at NRL level the fresh side should always win comfortably. During the season while there are still peaks, teams would never be so far away from each other in terms of preparation.

Trials provide fun banter between supporters and something for journalists to write about.
Coaches will be trying to learn something with each trial, just for the average fan you never know what that is.

So enjoy the banter, but worry about results in round 1 not now.

It's not every day you learn something new so this was a great post. Thanks.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That aside, you didn't answer the question Staggs.... Did you drag that quote from Spartan out from some other thread, as attempted justification for why you overreacted to his comments in this thread about official match reports?

That post he 'dragged out' was fair enough.

The forum has rules about political posting, and it's helpful for us to know which posters here have an anti-board, anti-CEO agenda.

Because otherwise they'll just try to claim they're only 'concerned fans' and not the agenda-driven deathriders they actually are.

But I can see why you wouldn't want this kind of information brought up.

 

[MrT]

do we recall round 26 2009? Deagons v Eels = 30-0 and then what happened the following week when it counted.

To take this match seriously you have to have a look at who played. Virtually our whole forward pack wasn't there and our no.1 in Hayne.

I'd be more worries if we were near full strength

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This would make me drool though

13. Smith
12. FFMM
11. Hindy
10. Poore
9. Mitchell
8. Mannah

15. Shack
16. Horo
17. Webb


So our hitups would be Mannah then Poore then FFMM...

Poore and Mannah to play a little bit more than 20mins, throw on Horo at the 20min mark

Who have you got playing on the left, Hindy or Fui?

 

[bartman]

That post he 'dragged out' was fair enough.

The forum has rules about political posting, and it's helpful for us to know which posters here have an anti-board, anti-CEO agenda.

Really? The post he dragged from some other thread into this one to carry on some juvenile grudge, and to explain why he (and others) overreacted about a nothing comment?

My reading of the rules on political posting (from the Sticky above) says that opinion is alright. If that post that was dragged over to this thread was indeed deemed "political" then the rules go that it would have just be deleted - not transplanted into another thread and given more air-time.

Some people seem unfortunately so tetchy about other people needing to agree with them on here that they seem to have their trigger finger ready and overreact - jump at shadows unnecessarily, and end up making the forum "atmosphere" worse (imo).

But I can see why you wouldn't want this kind of information brought up.

Is that because you think you know how I voted in club elections (but are probably dead wrong)? Is that because you think I care this year (but are probably dead wrong)?

Nothing you've added explains why it's good forum practice to drag posts (or issues) from other threads into replies on totally different threads and topics... in fact imo you've just goosed yourself here and fallen into the trap of doing the same.

 

[bartman]

This would make me drool though

13. Smith
12. FFMM
11. Hindy
10. Poore
9. Mitchell
8. Mannah

15. Shack
16. Horo
17. Webb


So our hitups would be Mannah then Poore then FFMM...

Poore and Mannah to play a little bit more than 20mins, throw on Horo at the 20min mark

It looks good on paper doens't it yy.

I'd go with
13. Hindy (even if he wears the 11)
12. Smith
11. Horo
10. Poore/FFMM (change starting rotations for particular teams)
9. Micthell/Keating
8. Mannah/FFMM

14. Mitchell/Keating
15. Shack (mainly backrow)
16. FFMM/Mannah/Poore
17. Webb

Plus the bench options of Maguire/Robson at 14 if they aren't used in the halves, Maitua later in the year, etc - plenty of options.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Really? The post he dragged from some other thread into this one to carry on some juvenile grudge, and to explain why he (and others) overreacted about a nothing comment?

Just my point - you say they overreacted. What's the difference between 'overreacting' and 'responding'?

Could it be that 'overreaction' is the term you give to a response you don't like?

My reading of the rules on political posting (from the Sticky above) says that opinion is alright.

I think it is too but I don't write the forum rules.

And if it is alright then it's alright to cross-post in order to call a poster out on his agenda.

If that post that was dragged over to this thread was indeed deemed "political" then the rules go that it would have just be deleted - not transplanted into another thread and given more air-time.

Umm, yeah. So if it wasn't deemed political then it's fine to re-post over here (or 'drag' over here if you want to use childish, emotive language).

You can't have it both ways mate.

Some people seem unfortunately so tetchy about other people needing to agree with them on here that they seem to have their trigger finger ready and overreact - jump at shadows unnecessarily, and end up making the forum "atmosphere" worse (imo).

I don't think it's about people needing others to agree with them - I love coming here for the arguments and I know I'm not alone.

What it is about, is people wanting everybody to follow the same rules. Including the rules of logic, common-sense and privacy (inc. political posting).

Is that because you think you know how I voted in club elections (but are probably dead wrong)? Is that because you think I care this year (but are probably dead wrong)?

I don't actually care about politics, I just can't stand whingers. I think you people should have your own thread - stickied if need be - so I don't have to read any of it.

Nothing you've added explains why it's good forum practice to drag posts (or issues) from other threads into replies on totally different threads and topics...

I don't think it's good or bad forum practice - the people who do it will get the aggregate response they deserve. Personally I support it, because my enjoyment of the forums is diminished by the people who constantly bitch and snipe at the club, the management, the coach and the players.

I understand you might reply that the people who 'blindly' (because that's the kind of puerile language you use) support the club diminish your enjoyment of the forum, to which I say you can GET f**kED - because support is inherently superior to opposition, regardless of what you think your reasons are.

in fact imo you've just goosed yourself here and fallen into the trap of doing the same.

I don't see how I've 'goosed myself' if I don't have a problem with it.

 

[Bigfella]

That post he 'dragged out' was fair enough.

The forum has rules about political posting, and it's helpful for us to know which posters here have an anti-board, anti-CEO agenda.

Because otherwise they'll just try to claim they're only 'concerned fans' and not the agenda-driven deathriders they actually are.

But I can see why you wouldn't want this kind of information brought up.

Poo, the best rule of thumb to identify those posts is that bartman and his buddies will be supporting them.

 

[Bigfella]

Is it from the same thread (ie this one) Staggs? I didn't see it in this thread this morning... but perhaps I might have missed it?

Or (if I didn't miss it in this thread) is this a case of you bringing across old grudges and issues from the past or other threads, just to single out an individual member? That's what I call an overreaction, and it's no wonder imo that he had a go back given your moderator status...

It's going to be a long year on here if a bunch of people overreact to people on here with different opinions to theirs, by carrying chips on their shoulder and bagging them off in unrelated threads. :crazy:

Funniest thing I've ever read.

 

[bartman]

I don't see how I've 'goosed myself' if I don't have a problem with it.

That point (taken literally) is fair enough.

It's clear some people think this forum's at it's best when people continue to selectively the past posts and off-topic issues instead of replying to views put on the topic at hand.

Fair enough. I must be in the minority for wanting this place to be (return to being) about exchanges and discussion about people's views rather than silly judgements and namecalling carried across topics in different threads.

Poo, the best rule of thumb to identify those posts is that bartman and his buddies will be supporting them.

:lol: For the record bigfella, I don't think I have "buddies" - but I do think it's silly when people overreact/dismiss something one poster says in one thread because of the impression people might have got from something else that person may have said... in another thread... once upon a time... about something else entirely. :crazy:

Have a good season/year guys, go Parra! :thumn.

 

[Stagger eel]

It was you yourself who commented (in this thread) that you didn't know what being a moderator had to do with Spartan's comment back to you about it - I'm just trying to explain my guess at it (and hopefully point out the pitfalls of carrying grudges between threads, and playing the man instead of the ball).

That aside, you didn't answer the question Staggs.... Did you drag that quote from Spartan out from some other thread, as attempted justification for why you overreacted to his comments in this thread about official match reports?

If so, why? I'd hate to see more people in these parts catching what I tend to call the El D syndrome... :crazy:

I dragged it out of another thread, just like he requested i answer one of his queries in another thread..

continue to character assisinate me Bartman if it makes you feel better.