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Was Walters really better than Elias?

chunk

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Certainly not.

Walters was a one dimesional footballer.

Elias revolutionised the hooking role in attack and did a load of defence
 

Edwahu

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Fast forward 20 years and some Tigers fan will be replicating this thread in the vain hope enough people have died off to convince the world that Farah was better than Smith.
 

GongPanther

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If modern day hookers had to play against Piggins they'd have to practice concussion testing

George was as tough as a dead-weight hessian bag of rusty nails.

Used to love the on-field battles between Johnny Grey and Mick Stevenson.

Penrith second rower Bill Ashurst used to have run-ins with Grey as well.

As far as Elias V Walters is concerned,both were different kinds of hookers.

Both players had attributes better than the other.

But getting into a debate whether which player X was better than another is trivial.

I'm going to be painfully bias here,but the 1991 Grand Final were Royce Simmonds scored two memorable tries,and his non-stop defense,is the best performance I've seen by any hooker on any Grand Final day.

And when you think that Simmonds missed a good part of that year due to poor form,(he played in only 9 comp matches all year with 4 from the bench) only emphasizes how much of a performance it was.
 

veggiepatch1959

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Neither of these imposters would be fit to polish a Freddie Jones' turd.

Freddie's pre match warm up would be half a packet of Rothmans then puff on the other ten at half time. How else would he have got 18 MoM awards during his career?

After the game, he would go back to the Manly-Warringah Leagues Club, down 35 schooners of Tooheys Draught, smoke another 40 Rothmans and be fighting fit at 6.00 am the next morning for a two hour training session on Queenscliffe Beach. Never missed a beat.

He was the ultimate hooker's hooker. :D
 
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GongPanther

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Neither of these imposters would be fit to polish a Freddie Jones' turd.

Freddie's pre match warm up would be half a packet of Rothmans then puff on the other ten at half time. How else would he have got 18 MoM awards during his career?

After the game, he would go back to the Manly-Warringah Leagues Club, down 35 schooners of Tooheys Draught, smoke another 40 Rothmans and be fighting fit at 6.00 am the next morning for a two hour training session on Queenscliffe Beach. Never missed a beat.

He was the ultimate hooker's hooker. :D

He used to light 12 smokes at a time with this.:lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRbaagdVU8
 

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Mr Spock!

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I love the assumption that modern day players are wusses that would be bashed out of the game if they played in the old days, that if punching and cheap shots were still allowed that they would crumble, most would give as much as they got. I think you'd find most modern players would still thrive under the old rules and some would love to throw punched/the rough stuff without having to worry about getting a 20 week suspension

They'd be stuffed after 15 minutes playing the no substitute rule.
 

WaznTheGreat

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In the annals of history, Steve Walters had been judged a better hooker than Ben Elias. I think Benny was well and truly robbed on the selection table. Benny was a more than competent defender as well as the best attacking hooker of all time.
Who agrees with me?

I think that in the anal of history that Rocco Siffredi would beat Steve Walters and Benny Elias by the length of the straight
 
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