I don't know a lot about Coyne. The little I do know is he qas quite hesitant to get involved on any side. Can't say I know what his intentions are, but I hope he sticks his nose in one day. Would be an asset to the club.
The structure of the Leagues club, RLFC and JV makes change incredibly difficult and very slow. Even if you got 3 members on the leagues board (which is the first step), you're looking at two to three years before real change could be enacted. Robinson, Doust and co have a very, very deep hold on the club and it makes uprooting them incredibly slow and involved.
Doust and Robinson will retire before they're 'ousted'; not enough supporters will come out on election day and cast their vote, essentially. I would say we have another 10 years of their meddling before any formal change of the guard could be considered as having passed without a huge effort from the supporters to rally and enact change.
To be honest, I also think there's not enough qualified men to replace them that could be trusted. There's about four or five really good egg's around, who would be beneficial if involved in the leagues club, but you can only devote part time energy to this and the club is running 24/7, so it's not easy to mount a ticket and keep your entire life operating normally. We really do need someone like Kevin Ryan, or Mark Coyne, to give it a go - men who have time, a lot of business nous and a league understanding.
Check out this thread, and you'll see some of the stuff that goes on and why it's so hard to enact change.
EVERY club demands success. EVERY club wants to win. EVERY club is out there TRYING to win. What, do you think the GC, Souths, Wests, NQ etc turn up to play like it's a social competition? You muppet. You absolute muppet. You keep crying out 'We want success!!' without ANY concept of how to GET the success, nor the effort that goes into it. You're oblivious to the training, the mix of age and youth, the mix of juniors and recruited. You have no more idea of what it is to craft success at a football club than your next door neighbour.
Of f**king course Wayne Bennett isn't at Newcastle to come 8th. Do you think he came to Saints to come 8th? Do you think Price is keen to snag 8th position this year?
"Well guys, we did it! You can be proud of yourselves, we achieved 8th! Woo hoo!"
That's not what he's looking for you dish rag. He wants the trophy, like we all do.
St George have ALWAYS been a strong club. We've ALWAYS had comparitive success. The problem is the success has never been rewarded with the prize for 30 years until Bennett arrived. We've missed the finals 3 years since 1999, with at least 5 of those years (2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011) having Saints being a really strong candidate for the GF. We took one, and fell short on the others. Are you blind to this? Do you just ignore these facts? The ONLY other teams that have had this success is Melbourne (Who breached the Salary Cap) and Brisbane, who have a major advantage that Ronnie has identified. The Roosters did well to hit 4 GF's in 5 years (2000, 2002, 2003, 2004) but they missed the semi's in 05-07, a wooden spoon in 09 and were 11th in 2011. Are we like that? Have we won a wooden spoon lately? Hell no.
The success we want, which is the continued success of the club as it has been going, is a continuous process. We need to keep crafting, keep building. My one BIG complaint, which as Father Ted has noted, is the board and I was a part of a group trying to fix that. We failed, to the detriment of the club in our opinion.
I want the board to change. I want the Dousts and Robinsons and the rest of those idiots out. I want a strong business running in the Leagues club, I want the footy side reaching the finals and winning premierships every 5 or so years. I want that. But I also know there will be years where things go wrong; injuries, suspensions, player morale dropping. I want the success of this club to be about how we recover from these periods, not who we blame when they happen.
THAT'S success, in my mind. Because it shows character and pride and loyalty and spirit which other clubs crave. Wayne Bennett kenw that. He played on it. That's why we on in 2010 and went so close in 2009. He used what was already there and brought it to the forefront. The Dousts of the board shield it. Have you ever thought about that?
So Wayne Bennett doesn't mention us in an interview, so we must be unsuccessful. Do you hear what you're saying?
We have NOT gone through 3 years of missing the finals. In fact, we haven't yet ARRIVED at the finals yet. We're 14 rounds in you muppet. We're 14 ROUNDS in. Even IF Price misses the finals, we will be achieving what Melbourne did in 2009 and Brisbane did in 2010 - Some f**king success they are if they've missed the finals in the last 3 years and we've been contesting!
Grow up, BBC. You're getting tiresome and I'm sick to death of the cancer you're spreading amongst supporters.
We're not doing well. I get it. Everyone does. But FFS, change your tune mate. You're worse to listen to than Justin Bieber on loop in an elevator.
OK cheers. I'll contact them.
Fire, I've just read that thread on Jubilee Avenue. It is a real eye opener. according to Drew there is no chance of changing anything at the top. Unless you do a Tinkler. And who can do that.
It's a Dynasty and Underbelly all rolled into one.
Trying to unseat board members is near impossible. R2K made two attempts but was met with an old guard with a lot of old tricks up their sleeve. As Drew is well aware, the club can go to extraordinary lengths to stop any emerging opposition.I saw we start a rebel ticket with Drew-Sta leading it to challenge Doust and his cronies!
Trying to unseat board members is near impossible. R2K made two attempts but was met with an old guard with a lot of old tricks up their sleeve. As Drew is well aware, the club can go to extraordinary lengths to stop any emerging opposition.
IMO, the last 'rebel' to get a seat on the board was Robert Stone. But respect to the great man, I think saying 'rebel' is a long bow to draw. He was however good friends with R2K, passionate about Kogarah and wanted to pursue getting the club history right. It was a great loss when he passed away.
It all really started to come to a head back when the board wanted to merge us with Easts . Today the revisionists will tell you it was never going to happen . Strange when you consider they had the jersey design done and dusted and the Saints coach quit because he realised the Easts coach Gould was a shoe in to get the job.
Some brave Souls like R2k , Drew Sta and Rexxy got involved in the club , didn't like they saw and did something about it .
People don't realise how many dollars , hours and love for this club that those guys put into Running against the board, vilified them to many other Dragons supporters who have never bothered to really find out what was going on. They put themselves out there taking the fight to the league and football clubs in an effort to Make the Dragons everything that we all know they should be .
All of this effort was repeated during the superleague war and then the war to bring the team back to Kogarah .. In fact Some imo brave souls have been Keeping the board honest for years . My hats off to the R2Ks , Drews of our club .. Not all our greats have played on a footie field
It all really started to come to a head back when the board wanted to merge us with Easts . Today the revisionists will tell you it was never going to happen . Strange when you consider they had the jersey design done and dusted and the Saints coach quit because he realised the Easts coach Gould was a shoe in to get the job.
Some brave Souls like R2k , Drew Sta and Rexxy got involved in the club , didn't like what they saw and did something about it .
People don't realise how many dollars , hours and love for this club that those guys put into Running against the board, vilified them to many other Dragons supporters who have never bothered to really find out what was going on. They put themselves out there taking the fight to the league and football clubs in an effort to Make the Dragons everything that we all know they should be .
All of this effort was repeated during the superleague war and then the war to bring the team back to Kogarah .. In fact Some imo brave souls have been Keeping the board honest for years . My hats off to the R2Ks , Drews of our club .. Not all our greats have played on a footie field
You love yourself Father?:sarcasm:
Well said Father.