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At full fitness Nrown is top 17.
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At full fitness Nrown is top 17.
But you suggesting we would've won with anyone else isn't speculative?
ffs merkin, there's no magical bench player in our squad who could've slowed down Penrith's line speed or forced an error with a kick. I was stunned that anyone got a pass around their defence, much less Jake Arthur.
Nathan Brown would have helped our line speed though. They were making way too many easy metres in the second half.
If there's more attackers than they can cover then they are at the mercy of the attack. If the attack gets it right then any decision the defender makes is the wrong decision. They just have to hope the attack f**ks it. The only thing the defence has in its control is effort - getting numbers across in cover, like Penrith did tonight, right up until the 80th desperate minute.
Well it's a bit sus that they sacked his dad, then when they were trying to keep him in the face of big offers from elsewhere they brought his dad back and gave him a high paying job (outside the salary cap).
I'm sure nobody would want to see their kid set up to fail either. These people are professionals ffs.
Ivan Cleary is a pretty damn good coach. He got the Warriors to a grand final (no mean feat when you look at where they are now) and he is responsible for one of the most overachieving sides (i.e the Panthers) in history. This Penrith side is definitely greater than the sum of its parts.
If your middles are walking across in cover you're on the back foot no matter where you are. Arthur had Paulo on his inside and the lead runner was Luai. Arthur could've stayed out but then what if Luai got the ball against Paulo? Papali'i was in a light jog from marker but Matterson and RCG were deadset walking until Cleary made the break.
Calling it a 'read' assumes the defender knows who's going to get the ball. The point is it's the man with the ball who makes this decision, in this case JFH. The lead runner was Luai and Cleary was out the back. If Arthur stays out and Luai gets the ball you're whinging about 'a poor defensive read' as well. This is because Penrith had the numbers and we didn't have the inside push helping reduce their numerical advantage.
Because that plays into their hands. They love when teams try and go around them. They handle it easily.
They could do that because they wore our middle defence down with Edwards and To'o coming at us. That forced us to compress which opened us up on the edges. Do you even rugby league?
Well I could assume I'm not explaining myself properly, but I really suspect you're just playing semantic games because you've been too quick with your blame and now can't bring yourself to reconsider.
Agreed but the right decision was to remain patient and not fall into that trap. We were still probably going to lose (Penrith were paying $1.39 ffs, they were supposed to win at home after a week's break) but we were more likely to win if we stuck to the game plan than if we got away from it.
No the cover was far too good.
Conceding tries is a team effort. Sure one winger made a number of errors that led to a run of possession against us, but even then, better kick pressure would've made those kicks easier to catch. Just as Arthur's kick would've been better with as much time to kick as we gave Cleary.
There's no 'running the show'. Our structure on the left and right side is different. Moving Drown to the right would've removed our left side options. But we targeted Penrith's left more after Arthur came on because they lost May at about the same time. Without that disruption Arthur likely wouldn't have had the opportunity for the LBA.
Drown runs the left side, Moses (or his repacement) the right side.
Well when you're an NRL coach you can make that call and maybe merkins will trust your opinion.
I agree with alot of what you’ve said but we have Gutherson for left side options so I don’t agree moving Brown would have ruined that. Hopefully Moses is fit and that won’t be an issue.
Very silly comment to say that non NRL coaches can’t have a valid opinion. By virtue of agreeing with the coach’s choices means you’re doing nothing different from me (your opinion just happens to align with the NRL coach’s).
Lane only made 10 runs. Kikau made 18 runs and played the full 80 minutes. Fisher-Harris made 21 runs and Yeo made 19.
Penrith's whole back row played 80 minutes.
Right but he's obviously underdone or he would've at least taken Makatoa's spot. Maybe we'll see him next week? Or do you think he's picking Makatoa so he can get his appearance bonus?
If you say on the one hand that just because someone's selected in the 17 on game day doesn't make them a first grader, then surely on the other hand you'd have to admit that just because someone gets paid that doesn't make them a professional...?
So take away the word "read"....
