Welcome to the comp, Redcliffe.

[Colk]

No one should have been kicked out and no one is going to be.

Well nobody is now

 

[The Great Dane]

Based on what?

And please answer in a short, coherent way, not your usual pseudo intellectual drivel that impresses no one.

Basic statistics. Is two words simply enough for you?

BTW, everything is pseudo intellectual to people whom can't understand it.

 

[The Great Dane]

Everything you say is from superleague playbook.

You never read their 'playbook' if you think that.

They had some good ideas, but almost all of them were poorly executed, and there were fatal flaws in their plan from the beginning. Their original plan had more merit to it, but it also had stupid ideas in it (e.g. only one team in SEQ forever), and it required cooperation from the ARL and clubs, which was probably too much to ask as well.

South's are strongest Sydney team now. Only an idiot would suggest they should never have been brought back

Hindsight is 20/20.

Nobody could have predicted that Souths would be taken over by Crowe and Holmes à Court at the time that the court case was happening. Nor could it have been predicted that they would be so successful, and you'd probably have been called a fool if you even suggested that something like that was possible give the club and George Piggins' track record.

They almost instantly went broke again after re-entering the competition as well, which shows what kind of situation the club was in at the time. Their going broke was the catalyst that made it possible for Crowe and Holmes à Court to takeover as well.

Another club would have taken their place as the most successful club in Sydney had they been given the arse anyway, and you'd be sitting here suggesting that their success was destiny instead.

 

[The Great Dane]

Well nobody is now

This.

Whether or not it should happen is kind of irrelevant, as odds are that no NRL side is moving anytime soon. The club most likely to be forced to move isn't even from Sydney in my opinion.

I will add that only two of the 14 foundation teams of the NFL still exist today, both of which have relocated, and that the last major league side to actually fold in the US was the California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons in 1978.
Making changes is a good idea when something isn't working, or even if it could just be done in a better way, and a chronic fear of backlash from change has held many leagues in the Australian sports industry back.

 

[Pippen94]

You never read their 'playbook' if you think that.

They had some good ideas, but almost all of them were poorly executed, and there were fatal flaws in their plan from the beginning. Their original plan had more merit to it, but it also had stupid ideas in it (e.g. only one team in SEQ forever), and it required cooperation from the ARL and clubs, which was probably too much to ask as well.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Nobody could have predicted that Souths would be taken over by Crowe and Holmes à Court at the time that the court case was happening. Nor could it have been predicted that they would be so successful, and you'd probably have been called a fool if you even suggested that something like that was possible give the club and George Piggins' track record.

They almost instantly went broke again after re-entering the competition as well, which shows what kind of situation the club was in at the time. Their going broke was the catalyst that made it possible for Crowe and Holmes à Court to takeover as well.

Another club would have taken their place as the most successful club in Sydney had they been given the arse anyway, and you'd be sitting here suggesting that their success was destiny instead.

Idea that Sydney clubs are interchangeable is straight from superleague.
South's always had a strong if somewhat dormant following. Hated 'millionarie' roosters could never take the place. If you & superleague had it's way these fans would've been lost from game.

 

[Perth Red]

Why do you think you know what broadcasters want better than what broadcasters do?!

Because we just saw how much broadcasters valued another brisbane club. I mean we literally have 2 year old evidence!

 

[Pippen94]

Because we just saw how much broadcasters valued another brisbane club. I mean we literally have 2 year old evidence!

Yeah they wanted brisbane but not perth

 

[Perth Red]

Yeah they wanted brisbane but not perth

$0 that’s how much

 

[Pippen94]

$0 that’s how much

U answering ur own lame questions now?!
Lying to urself

 

[taipan]

Chooks are still 5-5. You can't be good all the time. NRL 2 would still be televised. I'm in favour of licensing for the English league, most there seem to still want P&R. There wouldn't be relegation from NRL 2. There should be fewer NRL weekends, so more quality less quantity. With 2 divisions there still would be in effect 10 NRL matches most weekends during the Aussie winter.

No one from relegated teams would be interested in Div 2 ,P & R only works with large populations . Obviously you haven't noted or are oblivious to the effects of SL war. This comp is one of the closest I can remember.
The code has been dragged through a lot of crap since 1995 and has a firm popular base.Add to it by all means.

 

[taipan]

drop the Sharks and Sea Eagles, they'll still have NRLW and NSW Cup sides to support. Move The Tigers to Brizzy. Bring in The Bears, who play in Perth.

Yeah that'll do wonders for the code.
You live on another planet with those suggestions. Clubs' fans moved or relegated are lost to the NRL, and a few will follow 2nd division.

 

[taipan]

Should’ve been Cronulla kicked out

and 14 teams was too low

Some suggest the Storm should have been kicked out after the salary cap debacle.I disagreed.Some even the Warriors.
Cronulla made the decision to go to SL to save themselves and it ensured their financial underpinning. Plus the fact they have the 2nd biggest junior base in Sydney and have now additional assets apart from the construction of their new leagues club at Shark Park. A licensed club at Kareela(profitable),the purchase of the old Westpac Bldg in the Cronulla Mall which will house the offices and merchandise store.Plus ownership of their ground, which will have capacity increased when construction work is over.That's why the NRL won't be axing the Sharks, or the Sea Eagles.
Live for the future not what might have been.

 

[Pippen94]

Some suggest the Storm should have been kicked out after the salary cap debacle.I disagreed.Some even the Warriors.
Cronulla made the decision to go to SL to save themselves and it ensured their financial underpinning. Plus the fact they have the 2nd biggest junior base in Sydney and have now additional assets apart from the construction of their new leagues club at Shark Park. A licensed club at Kareela(profitable),the purchase of the old Westpac Bldg in the Cronulla Mall which will house the offices and merchandise store.Plus ownership of their ground, which will have capacity increased when construction work is over.That's why the NRL won't be axing the Sharks, or the Sea Eagles.
Live for the future not what might have been.

Manly & sharks weren't in the firing line at that point of time. If manly wasn't aligned with arko would've been first choice for super league along with doggies

 

[taipan]

Was you in lock up when paramount bid $600mill and Stan bid $550mill for afl?

Have you been paying attention with Paramount Global have cut 25% of staff in its domestic cable networks, looking to reduce costs.As it merges with Showtime & MTV.Let's not get too optimistic by creaming our denims.

 

[taipan]

Manly & sharks weren't in the firing line at that point of time. If manly wasn't aligned with arko would've been first choice for super league along with doggies

If you are talking the start of SL, the Sharks were in the firing line of Arko and Quayle, that's why they went they didn't have much loot.And yes they had a testy time in the 2000s when they once again got into financial trouble during the NRL and the drama of the drug saga.Then they were at death's door.
Thanks to the huge retail resident development around the club ,the club ended up with my best around $45m after selling off land etc.
Of which debts cleared, the licensed club purchased at Kareela(golf club),the Cronulla Mall property and their new soon to be completed League's club.They are in a better financial /junior base/asset situation than a number of clubs and not privately owned.
That's why I ignore the Great Dane's comments.

 

[Pippen94]

If you are talking the start of SL, the Sharks were in the firing line of Arko and Quayle, that's why they went they didn't have much loot.And yes they had a testy time in the 2000s when they once again got into financial trouble during the NRL and the drama of the drug saga.Then they were at death's door.
Thanks to the huge retail resident development around the club ,the club ended up with my best around $45m after selling off land etc.
Of which debts cleared, the licensed club purchased at Kareela(golf club),the Cronulla Mall property and their new soon to be completed League's club.They are in a better financial /junior base/asset situation than a number of clubs and not privately owned.
That's why I ignore the Great Dane's comments.

Superleague period was strong period for sharks & they held whip hand in talk of merger with saints

 

[Wb1234]

Some suggest the Storm should have been kicked out after the salary cap debacle.I disagreed.Some even the Warriors.
Cronulla made the decision to go to SL to save themselves and it ensured their financial underpinning. Plus the fact they have the 2nd biggest junior base in Sydney and have now additional assets apart from the construction of their new leagues club at Shark Park. A licensed club at Kareela(profitable),the purchase of the old Westpac Bldg in the Cronulla Mall which will house the offices and merchandise store.Plus ownership of their ground, which will have capacity increased when construction work is over.That's why the NRL won't be axing the Sharks, or the Sea Eagles.
Live for the future not what might have been.

I’m not talking about now I’m talking about in 98

 

[Perth Red]

U answering ur own lame questions now?!
Lying to urself

yep ch9 were so desperate for brisbane2 they paid a big fat zero. But hey I’m sure it’ll be different for brisbane3 lol

The SMH reports that the agreement will equate to an average of AUS$115 million per year. The current deal, which is set to expire in 2022, is reportedly worth AUS$115 million.

NRL extends Nine FTA broadcast pact in ‘AUS$575m’ deal - SportsPro

Australian commercial broadcaster Nine's rights package includes the NRL Grand Final and State of Origin matches.

www.sportspromedia.com

 

[Llangennech]

No one from relegated teams would be interested in Div 2 ,P & R only works with large populations . Obviously you haven't noted or are oblivious to the effects of SL war. This comp is one of the closest I can remember.
The code has been dragged through a lot of crap since 1995 and has a firm popular base.Add to it by all means.

I thought I would be in a minority on this one. Fine, bring in The Bears, Firehawks and Jets to have a 20 team NRL. I also preferred the McIntyre System for the play-offs. I would like them to bring back the 1 v 8, 2 v 7 etc. system.

 

[macca_saint]

$0 that’s how much

It’s more likely because of PVL’s garbage negotiation skills with the broadcasters rather than Brisbane 2’s actual value to them.