Welcome to the comp, Redcliffe.

[Pippen94]

yep ch9 were so desperate for brisbane2 they paid a big fat zero. But hey I’m sure it’ll be different for brisbane3 lol

The SMH reports that the agreement will equate to an average of AUS$115 million per year. The current deal, which is set to expire in 2022, is reportedly worth AUS$115 million.

NRL extends Nine FTA broadcast pact in ‘AUS$575m’ deal - SportsPro

Australian commercial broadcaster Nine's rights package includes the NRL Grand Final and State of Origin matches.

www.sportspromedia.com

Well there's a new Brisbane team now so if TV wasn't driver behind it who was & why!?

 

[xe_kilroy]

The right expansion team was chosen regardless . Redcliffe was clearly the strongest bid as a bid goes, have a very strong existing foundation etc etc.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I'm tipping the Dolphins might just miss out on the 8 their first year.

Very tight log jam from about 6 to 15 on the ladder.

 

[Pippen94]

The right expansion team was chosen regardless . Redcliffe was clearly the strongest bid as a bid goes, have a very strong existing foundation etc etc.

Dolphins were great selection. Ipswich Jets in same mode should be future entrant

 

[taipan]

I’m not talking about now I’m talking about in 98

OK if you are talking 1998, that time spot makes it more so the Sharks should have stayed.They got the SL money/10 year cash deal for their players.It gave them then financial stability.They had the juniors ,the ground which others didn't have.And as a proportion of their growing population a higher ratio than most Sydney clubs and it still holds now.I attended the Sharks meeting when they decided to go to SL ,and saw the antagonism that brought up with fans.
You think Sharks supporters with a flicked club would follow other clubs? Souths proved the point when they were flicked.Which club did they all gravitate to when they were gone? It's called tribalism. To be a little sarcastic and risqué The Yubangi tribe is not going to swap over to become a member of the Youbetcha tribe.
You can argue for many clubs in Sydney ATT who were candidates. The joint venture set up is a patch up, unpopular way to do things.
BTW I detest the Murdoch way of doing things.

 

[xe_kilroy]

Dolphins were great selection. Ipswich Jets in same mode should be future entrant

I personally would keep expanding QLD. Another Brisbane, SC, CQ. But....the ARL/NRL sbould also have a Perth team too in amongst all that. If 20 teams is a max.

Somehow fit in Perth. Somehow rationalize a Sydney team, push others to Illawarra and Campbelltown permanently. Somehow get an Adelaide and NZ2 too. Will be difficult achieving all that.

But for now....18, 19, 20 could be Perth, Briabane, Sunshine Coast in that order. 19 and 20 delayed/staggered a bit to allow current SEQ teams a chance to consolidate before more come in.

 

[taipan]

Dolphins were great selection. Ipswich Jets in same mode should be future entrant

Dolphins choice was one of the best moves the code administration has made in decades.Even Perf Red would have to agree with that ,despite having his arm twisted.

 

[Wb1234]

Some suggest the Storm should have been kicked out after the salary cap debacle.I disagreed.Some even the Warriors.
Cronulla made the decision to go to SL to save themselves and it ensured their financial underpinning. Plus the fact they have the 2nd biggest junior base in Sydney and have now additional assets apart from the construction of their new leagues club at Shark Park. A licensed club at Kareela(profitable),the purchase of the old Westpac Bldg in the Cronulla Mall which will house the offices and merchandise store.Plus ownership of their ground, which will have capacity increased when construction work is over.That's why the NRL won't be axing the Sharks, or the Sea Eagles.
Live for the future not what might have been.

I’m not talking about now I’m talking about in 98

OK if you are talking 1998, that time spot makes it more so the Sharks should have stayed.They got the SL money/10 year cash deal for their players.It gave them then financial stability.They had the juniors ,the ground which others didn't have.And as a proportion of their growing population a higher ratio than most Sydney clubs and it still holds now.I attended the Sharks meeting when they decided to go to SL ,and saw the antagonism that brought up with fans.
You think Sharks supporters with a flicked club would follow other clubs? Souths proved the point when they were flicked.Which club did they all gravitate to when they were gone? It's called tribalism. To be a little sarcastic and risqué The Yubangi tribe is not going to swap over to become a member of the Youbetcha tribe.
You can argue for many clubs in Sydney ATT who were candidates. The joint venture set up is a patch up, unpopular way to do things.
BTW I detest the Murdoch way of doing things.

lol ahead of Perth crushers Gold Coast south’s dragons manly Balmain central coast bears ?

no chance

their finances have been terrible until five years ago they almost went broke again before that

 

[Pneuma]

The right expansion team was chosen regardless . Redcliffe was clearly the strongest bid as a bid goes, have a very strong existing foundation etc etc.

Stop making sense.

 

[Perth Red]

Well there's a new Brisbane team now so if TV wasn't driver behind it who was & why!?

Im not saying it wasnt their preference, just that it wasn't worth anything, the notion that TV highly values more Brisbane sides was not born out by the last tv deal when Brisbane2 came in and led to no extra FTA money. The argument that Brisbane should get yet another team because TV want it is a furphy, unless for some reason this time they pay up when they didnt last time?

 

[Perth Red]

Dolphins choice was one of the best moves the code administration has made in decades.Even Perf Red would have to agree with that ,despite having his arm twisted.

It was a safe choice and the choice of News Ltd. I dont see anything that doesn't say Firehawks wouldn't have been just as good a choice, but with the advantage that we wouldnt now see us in a situation where we are already talking about the need for a license to be used for Brisbane3.

Personally Id have chosen Firehawks FT out of Suncorp with a target region of all South of river. Then told Redcliffe (who have the resources to be an NRL club) that they'll be in when Redcliffe stadium is NRl standard. That's how I'd have done it, but what do I know.

 

[Pippen94]

It’s more likely because of PVL’s garbage negotiation skills with the broadcasters rather than Brisbane 2’s actual value to them.

Perth red's figures are bs. Further any deduction he makes is biased. Brisbane 2 only exists because of broadcasters. Nobody else was pushing for expansion

 

[Pippen94]

Im not saying it wasnt their preference, just that it wasn't worth anything, the notion that TV highly values more Brisbane sides was not born out by the last tv deal when Brisbane2 came in and led to no extra FTA money. The argument that Brisbane should get yet another team because TV want it is a furphy, unless for some reason this time they pay up when they didnt last time?

They wanted team & got it. Any argument you make otherwise is sour grapes

 

[Wb1234]

Im not saying it wasnt their preference, just that it wasn't worth anything, the notion that TV highly values more Brisbane sides was not born out by the last tv deal when Brisbane2 came in and led to no extra FTA money. The argument that Brisbane should get yet another team because TV want it is a furphy, unless for some reason this time they pay up when they didnt last time?

There’s quotes from nine and fox saying they want another brisbane team

 

[AlwaysGreen]

It was a safe choice and the choice of News Ltd. I dont see anything that doesn't say Firehawks wouldn't have been just as good a choice, but with the advantage that we wouldnt now see us in a situation where we are already talking about the need for a license to be used for Brisbane3.

Personally Id have chosen Firehawks FT out of Suncorp with a target region of all South of river. Then told Redcliffe (who have the resources to be an NRL club) that they'll be in when Redcliffe stadium is NRl standard. That's how I'd have done it, but what do I know.

The fact you live in Perth and have no idea about league in Brisbane precludes you from any sensible argument.

Growing the game and expansion is easy on paper when you're thousands of kms away.

 

[macca_saint]

Im not saying it wasnt their preference, just that it wasn't worth anything, the notion that TV highly values more Brisbane sides was not born out by the last tv deal when Brisbane2 came in and led to no extra FTA money. The argument that Brisbane should get yet another team because TV want it is a furphy, unless for some reason this time they pay up when they didnt last time?

It was worth something, but the administration seems to lack the negotiating skills to properly realise its value (at least with FTA).
What makes you think it would be any different for Perth?

 

[Perth Red]

Perth red's figures are bs. Further any deduction he makes is biased. Brisbane 2 only exists because of broadcasters. Nobody else was pushing for expansion

haha nrl and channel 9s figures, not mine goose

 

[Perth Red]

There’s quotes from nine and fox saying they want another brisbane team

thats not the argument, its is it more valuable than other options. going on brisbane2 the answer is probably not.

 

[Perth Red]

It was worth something, but the administration seems to lack the negotiating skills to properly realise its value (at least with FTA).
What makes you think it would be any different for Perth?

again not the argument. the point is despite everyone believing its more valuable brisbane2 proved it wasnt, vlandys sht negotiating aside.

 

[Pippen94]

haha nrl and channel 9s figures, not mine goose

Everything u write is distorted or just plain wrong. For yrs u said there were 40k league players in Perth. I'd need to look up figures myself but I'm not.
Only reason expansion happened is because broadcasters wanted it & it's no coincidence it was Brisbane. Damn, for years you've been saying news picked redcliffe. Guess what?! Fox & nine want Brisbane 3 too..